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Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!!!!!!
Double check that the fare is actually in Business or First as some online search engines or OTA's confuse booking classes on some airlines.
Post as many details as possible about the First / Business fare, including fare class, fare basis, one-way / roundtrip, sales channel, sample dates & total price, including taxes.
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The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain country of origin, so don't ask if it works in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
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Mar 12, 2013, 5:02 pm

#676

armagebedar

Moderator, All Nippon Airways and Japan

Join Date: Sep 2005

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Programs: NH SFC (*G), JL JGP (OWE), AS MVP, WOH E, IHG SE

Posts: 3,908

Just a reminder to posters: if you could avoid putting the body of your post or other important information in the title, it would be appreciated. Not only is it good FT etiquette, FTers using the mobile app cannot see the title without having to click through.

Thanks!

Mar 12, 2013, 7:26 pm

#677

fozz

Join Date: Dec 2004

Location: EWR and SAN

Programs: PWP Direktor of Homeland, CO Plat* 1MM,UA 1K,BD Gold,DL Gold,SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum

Posts: 7,551

Quote:

Originally Posted by lkar

For a short time it was bookable for $480 each way on PIA's website in C. While I thought about and tried to figure out if PIA miles could credit anywhere and in a couple of hours it jumped $200.

I would be a bit cautious. I saw one of these "I" fares a few months ago and when I inquired with PK, they said they used "I" for coach. I am a bit skeptical, but didn't have the chance to do any more validation.

Mar 13, 2013, 7:12 am

#678

raji

Join Date: Jul 2009

Location: New Delhi

Programs: Miles n More Senator ,Marriots Platinum, Hhonors Diamond, Miles n Smile elites,ITA Volare Premium

Posts: 162

Nice deal Business Del to Europe( rtn) 1935 $

This summer good deal esp for Indian travelling to europe, Finnair ai 1935 $. also
38000 finnair plus points.
DEL-CPH-DEL around 1935 $
DEL-CDG-DEL around 1935 $
Multiple combinations can be used & they come out cheaper than flying to helsinki.
For eg DEL -LHR, CDG-DEL Biz comes out cheaper than flying DEL-HEL-DEL
http://www.finnair.com/IN/GB/destina...-pacific/india

Mar 13, 2013, 8:30 am

#679

cheltzel

Join Date: Apr 2010

Location: ORD

Programs: AA, UA, GE

Posts: 5,124

Quote:

Originally Posted by fozz

If you could book it on their website, assign a J seat, and get documentation (receipt, eticket, etc) for a business class r/t, I might bite.

Mar 13, 2013, 8:34 am

#680

want2fly4less

Join Date: Oct 2012

Location: Hamburg

Posts: 484

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheltzel

If you could book it on their website, assign a J seat, and get documentation (receipt, eticket, etc) for a business class r/t, I might bite.

The fare rules quote:
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.

This might as well be Business as Economy service...

Mar 13, 2013, 9:17 pm

#681

Keter

Join Date: Aug 2007

Location: AMS

Programs: KL PFL; BA Gold; A3 Silver; EY Silver; SU Silver

Posts: 2,488

Quote:

Originally Posted by want2fly4less

The fare rules quote:
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.

This might as well be Business as Economy service...

This is just informational general text which has no obligations. Even if this part says 'first class' actual class of service will depend on where the specific booking class is booked for the publishing airline and industry fare type for secondary airlines.

Mar 13, 2013, 9:22 pm

#682

bigbrownboy

Join Date: Mar 2005

Location: West Seattle

Posts: 600

Quote:

Originally Posted by fozz

I'm able to price out the 'I' on my corporate booking tool (Egencia), but it says it's a coach fare. However the current business class fare showing on the PK website is 'S'...and Egencia says that 'S' is coach too.

Mar 13, 2013, 10:17 pm

#683

TravelerMSY

Used to be 'Travelergcp'

Join Date: Jul 2003

Location: New Orleans

Programs: AA Plat, Marriott Gold, Hyatt Globalist

Posts: 2,826

Per Lucky's blog.... DFW-LIM in biz $1323. Yawn. But there's a 20k AA bonus for that route. With Plat/Exp bonuses you would get around 3.5 RDM.

Fare 1: Carrier AA INX5FCQ1 DFW to LIM (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers DFW-LIM (Business)
$609.50
Fare 2: Carrier AA INX5FCQ1 LIM to DFW (rules)
Passenger type ADT, round trip fare, booking code I
Covers LIM-DFW (Business)
$609.50
US September 11th Security Fee (AY) $2.50
US Passenger Facility Charge (XF) $4.50
US International Departure Tax (US) $17.20
Peru Int'l Arrival Tax (DY) $15.00
US International Arrival Tax (US) $17.20
Peru Airport Departure Tax (HW) $30.74
US Customs Fee (YC) $5.50
US Immigration Fee (XY) $7.00
USDA APHIS Fee (XA) $5.00

Subtotal per passenger $1,323.64
Number of passengers x1

TOTAL AIRFARE & TAXES $1,323.64
This ticket is non-refundable.
Changes to this ticket will incur a penalty fee.

Mar 13, 2013, 11:21 pm

#684

PaulInTheSky

Join Date: Jun 2010

Location: ROC/NYC/MSP/LAX/HKG/SIN

Posts: 3,214

If you can get this to work, I would definitely go for it. INW5FCQ1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travelergcp

Mar 13, 2013, 11:57 pm

#685

izzik

Join Date: Aug 2001

Posts: 9,683

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulakers2010

If you can get this to work, I would definitely go for it. INW5FCQ1

Why go DFW-LIM when you can go ATL-LIM (via DFW) for the same price?

Mar 14, 2013, 7:22 am

#686

PaulInTheSky

Join Date: Jun 2010

Location: ROC/NYC/MSP/LAX/HKG/SIN

Posts: 3,214

Quote:

Originally Posted by izzik

Why go DFW-LIM when you can go ATL-LIM (via DFW) for the same price?

Kind of depends on what you do, but if you want to go to CUZ, I think ATL prices higher than in DFW.

Mar 14, 2013, 7:42 am

#687

AHO

Join Date: Sep 2001

Location: Sweden

Posts: 2,044

Hong Kong-Sydney/Melbourne/Brisbane/Perth R/T in Business class with Malaysia Airlines.
Price: approx. 11,700 HKD incl. taxes (approx. 1.510 USD)

Airlines: Malaysia Airlines (MH)
Fare basis: ZBT3HK
Booking class: Z
Advanced purchase: 3 days
Min/Max stay: -- / 12 months
Buy latest: 2013-MAR-15
Travel period: between 2013-MAY-01 och 2013-JUN-26
Stopover: 1 free in Kuala Lumpur and additional stopover costs 700 HKD
Refund: Not permitted
Change: Not permitted after departure

Mar 14, 2013, 10:31 am

#688

PaulInTheSky

Join Date: Jun 2010

Location: ROC/NYC/MSP/LAX/HKG/SIN

Posts: 3,214

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHO

Surprisingly, EF doesn't show it. Only the MH website shows it.

Mar 14, 2013, 11:04 am

#689

lewende

Join Date: Aug 2011

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Posts: 1,976

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHO

Great find! I tried to plug in different origin and it looks like ex-HKG is the cheapest. Interestingly, for all origins the fare is priced at local currency (HKD for ex-HKG and SGD for ex-SIN) except ex-RGN, which is priced under USD.

Mar 14, 2013, 12:34 pm

#690

SESTAR

Join Date: May 2008

Location: SAN

Programs: AS GOLD

Posts: 403

MH has good prices from PHN - LAX. 1 way only

Phnom Penh, Cambodia
Departs: Thu, 06 Feb 2014, 16:30

Los Angeles CA, California, United States Of America
Arrives: Fri, 07 Feb 2014, 13:05
1 Adult: USD 712.00
Surcharges: USD 383.00
Taxes: USD 96.40
Total + Taxes + Surcharges: USD 1,191.40
Total Price: USD 1,191.40

Good price but long connecting time.