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Mar 4, 2013, 11:50 am

#586

355F1

Join Date: Feb 2013

Location: PHX

Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb

Posts: 5,515

Quote:

Originally Posted by RCyyz

Confirmed. PHX-CLT (US F) - CDG (US Z) and same on return

Fare rules:

Day/Time restrictions
TO AREA 2 -
PERMITTED SUN THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
FROM AREA 2 -
PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

Seasonal restrictions
PERMITTED 15MAY 13 THROUGH 08JUL 13 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

Minimum stay requirements
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO
EARLIER THAN 10 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

Sales restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 31MAR 13.

^^^^

I have contributed something in return finally for my awesome 21,000 DL MQM 3.2cpm MR's I got from this site last month! I spent $676 for 21,000 MQMs!!!

Mar 4, 2013, 11:57 am

#587

18sas

Join Date: Jan 2008

Location: KATL

Programs: DL DM/2MM

Posts: 2,034

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheltzel

Doesn't look dead at all to me.

On Matrix ... ORD-IAH-FRA-MAD and back for $1747 ai. May 24 to July 5. All UA flight numbers so I'd try to book it on UA.com

$.126 per mile. After P fare bonus about $.10 per RDM and $.085 per PQM.

I think the situation is that it is dead on SkyTeam and OW, but still active with *A. And yes, some of the fares are cheaper on *A than they were. DFW-MAD is now $1564 ai.

So the question is: if *A doesn't pull, then will the other alliances revive?

Mar 4, 2013, 12:43 pm

#588

cheltzel

Join Date: Apr 2010

Location: ORD

Programs: AA, UA, GE

Posts: 5,125

Quote:

Originally Posted by 18sas

I hope they do. But in all honesty, I suspect they'll all be dead sooner rather than later.

On a cheerier note, it is time to post a Spain meet up thread in CommunityBuzz??

Mar 4, 2013, 1:22 pm

#589

CaptRobPhD

Join Date: Feb 2013

Location: Chicago

Programs: AA EXP, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Titanium Elite, National Executive

Posts: 596

A little change of pace as I look to go to TH again in May (depending on whether you're a miles, points or redeemable addict, these may appeal)--seem a bit better deal than all the MADness:

AMS KUL BKK r/t ($2428ai, MH, booked Z/J/Z/Z): 14232 EQM (17.1cpm), 21348 EQP (11.4cpm), 32022 RDM (7.6cpm-with AA PLT boni). 777/738.

FRA AMM BKK r/t ($1782ai, RJ, booked I/I/I/I): 12278 EQM (14.5cpm), 18417 EQP (9.7cpm), 27265 RDM (6.5cpm-with AA PLT boni). Airport appreciation break in AMM. 321/330.

Can't find these on *A airline website as all connections either through HKG or back westward thru LHR or ORD and continuing west. Kinda ignores East options with two other OW full members. Never been on either airline...but I've seen them on TV

[oh, and at work].

Last edited by CaptRobPhD; Mar 4, 2013 at 1:28 pm

Mar 4, 2013, 2:07 pm

#590

jeautk01

Join Date: Apr 2006

Location: 1A

Programs: Most

Posts: 393

Dfw-cdg $1922 ac

Air Canada AC ZHXNC60S DFW to PAR

10 DAY MIN

HIGH SEASON MIDWEEK BUSINESS CLASS Z
ADVANCE PURCHASE FARES
FOR ROUND TRIP FARES

Day/Time restrictions

FROM THE UNITED STATES -
PERMITTED TUE THROUGH SAT ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
TO THE UNITED STATES -
PERMITTED SUN THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

Seasonal restrictions

PERMITTED 15MAY 13 THROUGH 31AUG 13 ON THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.

Mar 4, 2013, 2:10 pm

#591

TerryK

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Sep 1999

Location: New York, NY, USA

Posts: 12,483

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheltzel

It is dead on Skyteam, yet alive on Star.@:-)

Mar 4, 2013, 2:25 pm

#592

18sas

Join Date: Jan 2008

Location: KATL

Programs: DL DM/2MM

Posts: 2,034

Quote:

Originally Posted by want2fly4less

You would need to read the fare rules. In the fare rules there is sth. written e.g.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 15MAR 13.

This is the latest date on, which you will be able to buy this fare, if it isn`t pulled before.

Thanks. I read the detailed fare rules of my DFW>MAD and also just did a historical lookup on the same. The only entry in the Sales Restrictions was that it wasn't available in Iran.

So I suppose that it if there isn't a sell-by restriction, then the carrier can shut down the fare at any time.

When I priced things in Galileo, it would say must be ticketed by 06 Mar 13. But I think that was just for the "must ticket within 72 hours" holdover rule when you had to show up at the travel agency or city ticket office with a check or cash.

Anyway, the moral of the story is when a deal like MADness happens, act now!

Mar 4, 2013, 2:32 pm

#593

syzygy

Join Date: Dec 2009

Location: San Francisco Bay Area

Posts: 210

Looks like the fare is dead on Star Alliance as well now (at least in May).

Mar 4, 2013, 2:47 pm

#594

arf04

Join Date: Oct 2006

Location: YQR

Posts: 2,743

Quote:

Originally Posted by arf04

Booked MOT-MSP-LHR-MSP-MOT, $2080.44 ai. DL 8/25 - 9/3 in P and Z.

This is as good a deal as one will get out of this part of the world. Thanks to all who posted the DL MAD deal as it got me looking. Saved $3-4 grand likely on this itin for two tix.

The MOT-LHR deal on DL looks to have disappeared overnight as well (KL was matching). I couldn't find it on *A.

For some reason this deal seems to have paralleled the MAD deals others have reported though I don't think it was as widespread. I didn't see it out of DFW, for example, but neither did I do a wide-ranging search.

Mar 4, 2013, 3:05 pm

#595

thierry

Join Date: Sep 2003

Location: Paris, France

Programs: UA LT Gold, Air France Platinum Ulti, AA 4MM EXP, SPG Lifetime Plat, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond

Posts: 725

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnAx

For lack of miles useful to me I generally ignore EK - but they do have a decent sale from German* cities to Asia and Africa, e.g. (r/t,a/i):
JNB €1769 / €2769 Biz/First
SEZ €1869 / €2869
ADL €2785 / €3785
BLR €1899 / €2879
HKG €1935 / €2935
KUL €1869 / €2869
BOM €1785 / €2785
PEK €1875 / €2875
ICN €1869 / €2869
SIN €1875 / €2875
DXB €1575 / €2575
*rules mention routing from other European cities

Booking codes OE4MPDE1/AE4MPDE1 for biz/first.

Book by 5 March for travel 1 April - 31 December. Min/max stay 3d/4mo. No adv purch reqmt.

Fantastic fare indeed. I wonder why they only offer it out of Germany in the european market. They did the same thing last year I remember and booked a MUC-DXB-BKK in F for less than 3000€
Did it again this time on a FRA-DXB-PVG/HKG-DXB-FRA for 2890 € in F, for Xmas and New Year and the fare is valid beyond December 31 2013, since I fly back on January 4, 2014.
A whopping 49000 points with the miles accelerator bonuses

Thanks OP for the great deal

Mar 4, 2013, 3:14 pm

#596

CokeandTaco

Join Date: Sep 2010

Posts: 2,233

BA: IAH-ZRH ~$1994ai (I,J)

Sample:
July 1-9 IAH-LHR-ZRH-LHR-IAH $1994ai (I,J) (10620mi ~18.8cpm)

-50 Day Advance.
-TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 8 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
-FOR ROUND TRIP FARES.
-TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN MIDNIGHT 12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
-NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.
----------

AA: DFW-TXL ~$2036ai (I)

Sample:
Sept 6-16 DFW-LHR-TXL-LHR-DFW $2036ai (I) (10650mi ~19.1cpm)

-PERMITTED 26MAR THROUGH 14MAY OR 01SEP THROUGH 23OCT OR 16DEC THROUGH 24DEC ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
-FOR ROUND TRIP FARES.
-TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 10 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
-NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.

Last edited by CokeandTaco; Mar 5, 2013 at 10:41 am Reason: add "NO"

Mar 4, 2013, 6:24 pm

#597

NewMexFlyer

Join Date: Jul 2007

Location: Northern NM

Programs: DL 2MM DM, SPG Gold, HH Gold, Hyatt Diamond, IC Plat AMB

Posts: 180

DL: ABQ-SJU-HNL-SJU-ABQ 2500.40 P Fare

I know this a variation of previous SJU fares, but no positioning flights from ABQ, which is rare. Booked late Oct/Early Nov.
2 PNR's:
1st is abq-atl-sju-atl-abq 856.20 P Fare
2nd is sju-atl-slc-hnl-sea-jfk-sju 1644.20 P Fare
Some flat beds and recliners sprinkled in. Other routing available, could not get the hnl-atl a330 flight at this fare.

Earns 27,568 MQM = 9 cents per
RDM(inc AX bonus) = 50,944= 5 cents per all if F/C

Maybe not true MR, but a good deal Premium fare since I have to be in HNL anyway and P fare is 2391.00 abq-slc-hnl r/t.

Mar 5, 2013, 12:26 am

#598

whimike

Join Date: Nov 2011

Location: West Coast, USA

Programs: Skywards Platinum

Posts: 3,747

For those of you looking for deals in first class, I am finding both LH and LX with $4,627 ai fares LAX-MAD. Didn't check extensively, but found dates available in June. The same flights out of ORD/JFK/EWR are $5,800+, so one of the few times a TATL premium cabin is cheaper from the west coast.

There is no 10-day minimum on these F fares.

This is not an MR by any stretch, but I think a good deal if you want F on airlines that have an excellent F product.

EQM = 20,127.
RDM with COS bonus = 32,389.
Best case RDM if you are UA 1k = 45,807.

Last edited by whimike; Mar 5, 2013 at 12:34 am

Mar 5, 2013, 7:18 am

#599

Romelle

Join Date: Nov 2006

Location: MSP

Programs: DL Gold, DL MM 8/22/16!

Posts: 2,563

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewMexFlyer

...
2nd is sju-atl-slc-hnl-sea-jfk-sju 1644.20 P Fare

Thank you! A routing that hadn't occurred to me. It is going on my possibilities list.

Romelle

Mar 5, 2013, 8:43 am

#600

RCyyz

Join Date: Dec 2007

Location: Body in Downtown YYZ, heart and mind elsewhere

Programs: UA 50K, refugee from AC E50K, Marriott Lifetime Plat

Posts: 5,132

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeautk01

A brief note - it seems that the TATL portion of this flight (YYZ-CDG) may feature ACs new Executive seats which are not to be confused with the pods aka Executive suites.

Pic here - http://www.aircanada.com/en/travelin...t_intexec.html

Discussion here - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-c...-released.html