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Old Jul 24, 2013, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by TerryK
I can think of three scenarios:
3) P fare is filed for SIN-EWR. P fare bucket is there so that passengers originate from SIN can book return segments. EDIT: In fact, there is current P fare filed for SIN-EWR. Base RT P fare is $5395.
Thanks. I did not see that on EF, even searching for stays of 10 days or more flying weekdays.
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Old Jul 24, 2013, 8:54 pm
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I can think of three scenarios:
.....
3) P fare is filed for SIN-EWR. P fare bucket is there so that passengers originate from SIN can book return segments. EDIT: In fact, there is current P fare filed for SIN-EWR. Base RT P fare is $5395.
Originally Posted by TheCount2
Thanks. I did not see that on EF, even searching for stays of 10 days or more flying weekdays.
P fare is available in October for SIN-EWR. A random example from ual.com:

Fare Details
1 Adults (age 18 to 64) $5,657.00
Additional Taxes/Fees $92.80
Total $5,749.80

Flight Details
Wed., Oct. 9, 2013 | Singapore, Singapore (SIN) to New York/Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty)
Depart:
06:00
Wed., Oct. 9, 2013
Singapore, Singapore (SIN)
Arrive:
13:25
Wed., Oct. 9, 2013
Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Flight Time:
20 hr 25 mn
Distance:
9,321 miles
Flight:UA896
Aircraft: Boeing 777-200
Fare Class: United BusinessFirst (P)
Meal: Breakfast
No Special Meal Offered.
1 Stop. Time on the ground in Hong Kong (HKG) is 1 hour 45 minutes.
Change Planes. Connect time in Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare) is 2 hours 5 minutes.
Depart:
15:30
Wed., Oct. 9, 2013
Chicago, IL (ORD - O'Hare)
Arrive:
18:47
Wed., Oct. 9, 2013
New York/Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty)
Flight Time:
2 hr 17 mn

Travel Time:
24 hr 47 mn
Distance:
719 miles
Total Distance:
10,040 miles
Flight: UA1252
Aircraft: Boeing 757-200
Fare Class: United First (P)
Meal: Dinner
No Special Meal Offered.
Wed., Oct. 16, 2013 | New York/Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty) to Singapore, Singapore (SIN)
Depart:
15:20
Wed., Oct. 16, 2013
New York/Newark, NJ (EWR - Liberty)
Arrive:
19:10 +1 Day
Thu., Oct. 17, 2013
Hong Kong (HKG)
Flight Time:
15 hr 50 mn
Distance:
8,060 miles
Flight:UA117
Aircraft: Boeing 777-200
Fare Class: United BusinessFirst (P)
Meal: Dinner
Change Planes. Connect time in Hong Kong (HKG) is 1 hour 5 minutes.
Depart:
20:15
Thu., Oct. 17, 2013
Hong Kong (HKG)
Arrive:
00:05 +1 Day
Fri., Oct. 18, 2013
Singapore, Singapore (SIN)
Flight Time:
3 hr 50 mn

Travel Time:
20 hr 45 mn
Distance:
1,603 miles
Total Distance:
9,663 miles
Flight: UA895
Aircraft: Boeing 777-200
Fare Class: United BusinessFirst (P)
Meal: Dinner
The P fare filed is actually SGD6800 RT, no min, max 6 month. The above example is quoted in USD.

Last edited by TerryK; Jul 24, 2013 at 9:03 pm
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Old Jul 25, 2013, 6:27 am
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UA has HNL to BOG P fare for $1200ish on a few days around Thanksgiving. I saw it a few other times as well. Connection in EWR on the outbound and IAH on the return.
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Old Jul 25, 2013, 10:24 am
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AA still has roundtrip IAH-LHR in J for $2025 with dates during Thanksgiving. Just bought one yesterday. Maybe other cities are included or lower but I didn't check. Staying 2 nights but used 3 nights when doing ITA search. This trip will be more than enough to complete a platinum challenge. Lowest fare for the rest of November is $4600 with some as high as $7100+. Great opportunity to try the new J class on AA IMO. Caution that MIA flights do not show the new J seats so I am connecting in JFK and LAX (more miles). DFW and ORD were the other connection choices.
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Old Jul 25, 2013, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by houstr8male
AA still has roundtrip IAH-LHR in J for $2025 with dates during Thanksgiving. Just bought one yesterday. Maybe other cities are included or lower but I didn't check. Staying 2 nights but used 3 nights when doing ITA search. This trip will be more than enough to complete a platinum challenge. Lowest fare for the rest of November is $4600 with some as high as $7100+. Great opportunity to try the new J class on AA IMO. Caution that MIA flights do not show the new J seats so I am connecting in JFK and LAX (more miles). DFW and ORD were the other connection choices.
This fare has been matched by UA and DL.
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Old Jul 25, 2013, 6:10 pm
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SJU with AA

not bad, with 75L beds in JFK segments.

BOS-SJU 657$ A/I
JFK-SJU 757$ A/I
YYZ-SJU 1130$ A/I

plenty of dates examples from august-september in matrix.
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Old Jul 25, 2013, 8:05 pm
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DL: MCO-SAN ~$623ai (P)

Sample:
Aug 17 MCO-DTW-SAN-DTW-MCO $623ai (P) (5818mi ~10.7cpm)

-RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE NOT PERMITTED UNTIL 90 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
-One-Way Fares.
-Other one-stop routings available.
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Old Jul 26, 2013, 12:54 am
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AS SEA-LAX r/t $982 F, 8.2cpm after COS bonus. Availability every day from August 21-end of year with 1+ night stay. Routing is SEA-PDX-ORD-LAX-ORD-PDX-SEA, LAX-ORD legs on AA. SEA-PDX legs are in Y on a Q400 all other legs F on 737s.
* Routing SEA-ORD-LAX-ORD-SEA costs $974 for 9.4cpm but avoids the turboprop/Y.
* Assuming SEA-PDX earns 750EQM (500min + 50% COS); if it's only 500 after COS cpm is around 8.6
* Fare code is FASR according to ITA.
* Available in the reverse, with a lower cost and possibly better cpm - eg on 8/16-8/17 could do LAX-ORD-PDX-GEG-SEA-ORD-LAX for $996 (8.4cpm w/COS) but I didn't do an extensive search
* Appears bookable using hipmunk to create the itinerary on AS' site.
* Dates available in 2014
* Seemed available as 1ways for ~half.

Example dates:
8/17:
SEA-PDX AS 2139 8am-850am
PDX-ORD AS686 1005am-353pm
ORD-LAX AS1064 640pm-910pm
8/18:
LAX-ORD AS1702 920am-325pm
ORD-PDX AS675 5pm-734pm
PDX-SEA AS2056 830pm-917pm

For AA flyers, it would be a little different since AS Y doesn't get a 50% COS bonus on EQM (though it does on EQP). I'm not really familiar with that program (do they have 500 mile minimums?) so I'll let someone who is analyze it correctly if there's interest.

For DL flyers, I think you get nothing for the AA leg and so I'd presume it's not quite as attractive.
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Old Jul 26, 2013, 5:47 am
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Originally Posted by wpj
not bad, with 75L beds in JFK segments.

BOS-SJU 657$ A/I
JFK-SJU 757$ A/I
YYZ-SJU 1130$ A/I

plenty of dates examples from august-september in matrix.
Thanks, OP. Seeing DEN-SJU for $827 a/i. Routing example: DEN-ORD-MIA-SJU-JFK-ORD-DEN.
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Old Jul 26, 2013, 7:44 am
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ATH-->JFK on TK, 1335 EUR return

Books into J, stops in IST possible in both directions.

Not a fan of TK or C travel in general, but decent price, stop in IST, full-flat seat and very decent food sealed the deal for me. Booked for October/November.

Regards,

El Puerco Volante.
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Old Jul 26, 2013, 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by El Puerco Volante
ATH-->JFK on TK, 1335 EUR return

Books into J, stops in IST possible in both directions.

Not a fan of TK or C travel in general, but decent price, stop in IST, full-flat seat and very decent food sealed the deal for me. Booked for October/November.

Regards,

El Puerco Volante.
ATH-YYZ is possible too for 1642EUR rt.

Ben
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Old Jul 26, 2013, 8:35 am
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BUD-DEL in business from 1270EUR rt ai

1270 EUR on AY
1575 EUR on TK with a free overnight in IST.
They are published fares but still very cheap compared to austrian and german fares.

Ben
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Old Jul 27, 2013, 6:17 pm
  #1543  
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AA First Class Flagship Suite to EZE or GRU ~3200 RT AI

AA First Class Flagship Suite to EZE or GRU ~3200 RT AI

books in P
return, all in

found in matrix sample days september

some segments in the new 77W

starting: (some are 7 days min, some 10 days min)

From MIA=3265$
From JFK=3465$
From DFW=3365$
From LAX=3749$

Last edited by wpj; Jul 27, 2013 at 8:06 pm
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Old Jul 27, 2013, 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by wpj
books in P
return, all in

found in matrix sample days september

some segments in the new 77W

starting: (some are 7 days min, some 10 days min)

From MIA=3265$
From JFK=3465$
From DFW=3365$
From LAX=3749$
For those on mobile or email: AA First Class Flagship Suite to EZE or GRU ~3200 RT AI

Remember guys, please post details in the body. Those on mobile or email can't see the title.
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Old Jul 28, 2013, 3:20 am
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Originally Posted by El Puerco Volante
ATH-->JFK on TK, 1335 EUR return

El Puerco Volante.
Only seeing Eur 1,900 for all dates Oct/Nov . Is the fare gone?
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