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Old Oct 17, 2018, 1:08 am
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One thing I have confirmed by chatting with friendly FDCs is that they only see “Platinum” on their screens. At least that is how legacy SPG hotels understand it- I do not think they have a clear understanding of the different levels. I do suspect that upper management is advised someway since we have had the managers introduce themselves and leave us their cards, along with special welcome gifts on this trip.

But if Marriott wants the higher Elite levels to receive special recognition they need to rename. Platinum Premier needs a new name and Ambassador should be “ Ambassador”

They have a perfect opportunity to do this when they introduce the new program in January.
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 1:23 am
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Originally Posted by getagb


Right now I believe that the Marriott booking system only allows point redemption rates for a standard room. Hotels can offer better rooms for award redemptions but they’ll be the standard point rate + a cash upgrade. As one example, you can only book a tiny “bunk bed” room at the Proper hotel in San Francisco. You can book a variety of room types for points & cash at the JW Marriott in Hong Kong.
Not in my experience. I booked a higher room rate at the Gritti Palace (83K pts instead of 60K) and the Danieli (64K pts instead of 60K). Also there have been reports of booking the Al Maha for 66K pts instead of 60K.
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 1:25 am
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I tried to use my SNAs for a reservation in December but wasn't able to online and the Ambassador team could not figure out why. Their theory is the reservation overflows into 2019 but I thought as long as you redeem before 31 December you should be ok or is my interpretation incorrect?
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 1:30 am
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Originally Posted by Zol
I tried to use my SNAs for a reservation in December but wasn't able to online and the Ambassador team could not figure out why. Their theory is the reservation overflows into 2019 but I thought as long as you redeem before 31 December you should be ok or is my interpretation incorrect?

You need 2019 SNAs for nights in 2019.
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 1:35 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
You need 2019 SNAs for nights in 2019.
This wasn't the case before, the expiry time was always date needed to be applied prior to, not the actual stay date.
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 3:06 am
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Originally Posted by porkie
This wasn't the case before, the expiry time was always date needed to be applied prior to, not the actual stay date.

I think you may be mistaken- I have been using for 5 years and it has been stay date

From the old terms (pre August)

“Suite Night Awards earned during the 2018 Qualifying Period must be redeemed for Stays that occur no later than December 31, 2019.”


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Suite Night Awards — Terms and Conditions:

Please see the SPG Terms and Conditions for full details regarding Platinum 50 Eligible Nights Benefits. To the extent that terms are capitalized in these Suite Night™ Awards terms and conditions, the terms have the meanings specified in the SPG Terms and Conditions.

Suite Night Awards earned during the 2018 Qualifying Period must be redeemed for Stays that occur no later than December 31, 2019.

Suite Night Awards may be redeemed for advanced confirmable upgrades for select premium rooms or standard suites on a per-room, per-night basis, subject to availability.

Suite Night Award upgrades must be requested through the SPG Program website (spg.com) or by contacting a Customer Engagement Center no later than 2:00 p.m. (local hotel time) one day prior to arrival. If a request for a Suite Night Award upgrade is confirmed, a confirmation email will be sent to the requesting SPG Member.

Suite Night Awards may only be redeemed for upgrades in connection with a Stay.

Requests for Suite Night Award upgrades and confirmed Suite Night Award redemptions may be canceled pursuant to the Suite Night Award cancellation policy on the SPG Program website (spg.com).

Suite Night Awards have expiration dates that may be different from other SPG Program benefits (for full details, see the SPG Terms and Conditions).

An eligible SPG Member should check his/her account to confirm the expiration date of his/her Suite Night Awards.

Suite Night Awards may not be redeemed at certain SPG Participating Hotels or at Starwood Vacation Ownership and residential properties. Please contact the specific SPG Participating Hotel or Starwood Vacation Ownership and residential property to see if Suite Night Awards may be redeemed for a stay at that SPG Participating Hotel or Starwood Vacation Ownership and residential property.

Rooms that are eligible for Suite Night Award upgrades vary by SPG Participating Hotel. In general, a standard suite or select premium room as designated by an SPG Participating Hotel is eligible, depending on availability. Specialty suites, such as presidential, honeymoon or multiple-bedroom suites, are not eligible for Suite Night Awards. In some resort locations where these room types are not available, upgraded rooms are based on preferred view, such as pool or ocean view, or room styles offered.

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Old Oct 17, 2018, 3:35 am
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Originally Posted by porkie
This wasn't the case before, the expiry time was always date needed to be applied prior to, not the actual stay date.
Source?

Per Lurker:

Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker
The last night that an SNA can be applied would be December 30th of the year in which it expires. For example, if your SNA were to expire December 31, 2013, the last possible night to use it would be December 30, 2013.

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So cannot even be used for night of Dec 31-Jan 1.



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Old Oct 17, 2018, 11:50 am
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Originally Posted by damon88
One thing I have confirmed by chatting with friendly FDCs is that they only see “Platinum” on their screens. At least that is how legacy SPG hotels understand it- I do not think they have a clear understanding of the different levels. I do suspect that upper management is advised someway since we have had the managers introduce themselves and leave us their cards, along with special welcome gifts on this trip.

But if Marriott wants the higher Elite levels to receive special recognition they need to rename. Platinum Premier needs a new name and Ambassador should be “ Ambassador”

They have a perfect opportunity to do this when they introduce the new program in January.
I agree based on my recent stays. It's surprising they aren't even familiar with the new structure and that GM's are so lazy they don't train their staff. I also agree on the new names but, I don't believe SPG or MR considers Ambassador to be a different level. I think they consider it to be a "benefit" or service. I'd prefer otherwise ...

I believe you (I could be mistaken) mentioned in an earlier post that SPG properties get a list of recommended upgrades. I've ended up with legacy SPG properties right were I need to be the past couple of weeks and am now on my 5th SPG stay this month. No one is familiar with this and its very apparent they are clicking around at check in -- first come, first served in terms of upgrades.

Legacy Marriotts seem better trained on recognizing Plat Premier since 8/18 ... perhaps because it was always in their system although there were far fewer of us.

I was at the US Grant recently for the first time. It is a nice hotel but if the GM there doesn't take the effort to train people on the new status, which property will? I almost wonder if there is a pushback from GM's at legacy SPG properties regarding the combined program. We certainly know there was in Asia.
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Old Oct 17, 2018, 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by margarita girl
...So cannot even be used for night of Dec 31-Jan 1.

That might have been true in 2013.

But, it is true still that any reservation that carries over to 2019 is going to have to have SNA's that are valid for 2019, even if the stay begins in 2018.

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Old Oct 17, 2018, 4:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Starwood Lurker

That might have been true in 2013.

But, it is true still that any reservation that carries over to 2019 is going to have to have SNA's that are valid for 2019, even if the stay begins in 2018.

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Thanks for confirming that. I can however, split the reservation in two and apply it to the 2018 portion

Is it the same rule for the award night, expires 31 Dec 2018. Can I use it for a 2019 stay if I book it now?

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Old Oct 17, 2018, 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Zol
I tried to use my SNAs for a reservation in December but wasn't able to online and the Ambassador team could not figure out why. Their theory is the reservation overflows into 2019 but I thought as long as you redeem before 31 December you should be ok or is my interpretation incorrect?
In SPG, the rule always was that the checkout needed to be in the same year, so that an expiring SNA could not even be used for NYE. AFAIK the new Starriott SNAs carry essentially the same T&Cs.
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Old Oct 19, 2018, 3:46 pm
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Data point for Your24:

Without bothering my Ambassador or the General Ambassador service, I today requested and was confirmed for an earlier 1 pm check in at the SLS Beverly Hills where we arrive tomorrow.

I already had emailed the Guest Relations member (who had sent me the routine welcome email) yesterday to request the early check in. Today when logging into Marriott.com, a pop-up screen offered the chance for advance check in for our stay (and also recognized me as Plat Premier). I requested to check in at 1 pm and was immediately approved for that. The follow up email reply an hour later from the Guest Relations rep also happened to confirm the early check in.

My Ambassador didn’t do this, since she’s away on a well earned holiday. I didn’t involve the General Ambassador team, though I did copy them on the email request. So it was possible to arrange early check in without using my Ambassador, likely because the hotel somehow already knew I had Ambassador status (and/or was a returning guest).

Data point for Ambassador status again:

I’d also been pre-upgraded over a month ago to the SLS Suite without using any SNAs for my 4 night stay. I had asked the hotel directly and didn’t involve my Ambassador at all in this request, but they told me she’d made a request already for some sort of upgrade/VIP treatment.

The take home here is that Ambassador status is actually something, despite assumptions often to the contrary. It isn’t just about an Ambassador doing things for us and on our behalf. It’s also an elevated experience beyond the status of just the regular Plat Premier.
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Old Oct 19, 2018, 6:55 pm
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Still very very long delays in the treatment of mails to research@starwood. In 4 weeks and after 10 mails about errors in the credit of points and nights after a stay at Saint Regis Mauritius, no answer at all from Marriott team. When I call, nobody can help, the only thing is « be patient ». It is frustrating because it prevents me from reaching Ambassador status. It is really Incredible to see how far quality of service has been degraded since Aug 18.
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Old Oct 19, 2018, 8:09 pm
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Originally Posted by margarita girl



You need 2019 SNAs for nights in 2019.
The SNA's in the account all expire Dec. 31, 2019. Therefore they should be good for 2018-2019.
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Old Oct 19, 2018, 8:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Safti
The SNA's in the account all expire Dec. 31, 2019. Therefore they should be good for 2018-2019.
That is only true for SNA’s earned this year. SNA’s earned last year expire 12/31/2018.
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