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Ambassador Service general email address: [email protected]
Ambassador Service general phone line (USA): (866) 924-9885
Europe: +353-21-4861 222
USA: +1-866-924-9885
Asia : +86-20-38157156
Ambassador Service general phone line (USA): (866) 924-9885
Europe: +353-21-4861 222
USA: +1-866-924-9885
Asia : +86-20-38157156
Marriott Bonvoy ‘Ambassador Elite’ Level : experiences (2020 and earlier)
#1066
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
That being said, I suppose I submitted it to the website rather than the ambassador perhaps because I thought an ambassador's time might be better utilized doing things more like BHR's ambassador
#1067
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
My ambassador was having the same issues with email, but I think it's been resolved as of this week. Her @marriott address wasn't working properly for replies, so she requested I reply to her old @starwoodhotels address. But as of this week, she has a new marriott email, so hoping that's all worked out. Sounds like more general merge IT issues. When I finally connected with her, she apologized for not contacting me earlier (I qualified at the merge) stating she didn't have my contact info. So, lots of internal issues.
#1068
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,417
Maybe we should insist on telegrams, to be delivered via pony express.
#1069
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
After 2 1/2 months I finally received an email from the ambassador assigned to me. Of course, he hasn't called me during the three times I said he could call me to introduce himself. Meanwhile, another ambassador that picked up when I called the general ambassador telephone line has been very helpful and been working with me via email since my assigned ambassador is missing-in-action.
#1070
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Seattle
Programs: Marriott Ambassador LT Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, United LT Silver
Posts: 1,085
Hmmm, at bit disturbed by the claim no contact info. Don't they have access to our member profiles? Doesn't that have telephone numbers and email addresses? Were they looking for fax numbers? Maybe we need to tell them only snail mail to communicate with us members. The increase in postage costs will flip out the bean counters in control.
#1071
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
I believe based on postings here that there are US based ambassadors in Omaha, Kansas City, Austin, Boston, and Salt Lake City. By and large, its the same people doing the same thing.
But part of your explanation -- poor execution in merging systems -- makes sense. There were lots of people who suddenly qualified because of the combined 100 nights ... some turnover in ambassadors although its hard to see if that's anything more than normal turnover.
Still ... Mr. Flueck appears to have spent a lot of time on program design but execution does not appear to have been his strong spot. He failed to recognize that some of the best customers might have some concerns. He failed to recognize that some franchisees might blow off program changes or even resist. I remain surprised that there hasn't been an email or outreach to those of us who stay 100 nights or more in Starriott properties.
#1072
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
Mr. Flueck appears to have spent a lot of time on program design but execution does not appear to have been his strong spot. He failed to recognize that some of the best customers might have some concerns. He failed to recognize that some franchisees might blow off program changes or even resist. I remain surprised that there hasn't been an email or outreach to those of us who stay 100 nights or more in Starriott properties.
Where are we going to go? Hilton? Hyatt? IHG? Hyatt is the only one with a viable alternative in terms of concrete elite benefits, but they don't have the properties for most of us.
#1073
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Southern California, USA
Programs: Marriott Ambassador and LTT, UA Plat/LT Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 8,764
Despite other attempts to paint the pre-Aug 18 merger “Marriott so-called concierges then Ambassadors” as equivalent to SPG Ambassadors, those Marriott concierge/Ambassadors were different quantities with different expectations and responsibilities. They weren’t equivalent. The guaranteed benefits weren’t equivalent. The expectations weren’t equivalent. The only unwritten rule with SPG Ambassadors that likely was true was my oft-indicated assessment that those who spent more had even better responsiveness and elevation for their hotel experiences.
That is part of the reason that I believe some now are experiencing Ambassador dissatisfaction: pre-merge Marriott “Ambassadors” now having to function like their pre-merge SPG Ambassador peers despite the obvious lack of experience.
If you already had an SPG Ambassador, chances are vastly better that they know how to push hotels for elevated treatment and elevated chances for upgrades. If you only post-Aug 18 earned an Ambassador, chances are better that it might be a new Ambassador or a pre-merge Marriott Ambassador, either of which is much less likely to have that same experience.
Either way, it doesn’t matter whether you have a new or experienced Ambassador if that Ambassador isn’t receiving your emails or cannot access your voicemail messages! That isn’t a fault of any Ambassador. That is the fault of the pitiful Marriott execution of its IT resources.
For those with new Ambassadors earned since Aug 18, I strongly recommend considering these first few months as a good learning period for both you and your newer Ambassadors. When people wonder why Marriott started the new loyalty program in August 2018 rather than waiting until January 2019, I always point out that giving everyone a bit of a trial run would be to everyone’s benefit. Even the IT disaster is better now than then, when it more likely would have impacted even more elites.
#1074
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
That is part of the reason that I believe some now are experiencing Ambassador dissatisfaction: pre-merge Marriott “Ambassadors” now having to function like their pre-merge SPG Ambassador peers despite the obvious lack of experience.
If you already had an SPG Ambassador, chances are vastly better that they know how to push hotels for elevated treatment and elevated chances for upgrades. If you only post-Aug 18 earned an Ambassador, chances are better that it might be a new Ambassador or a pre-merge Marriott Ambassador, either of which is much less likely to have that same experience.
Either way, it doesn’t matter whether you have a new or experienced Ambassador if that Ambassador isn’t receiving your emails or cannot access your voicemail messages! That isn’t a fault of any Ambassador. That is the fault of the pitiful Marriott execution of its IT resources.
My pre-merge Marriott Ambassador is fine and acting consistent with the vast majority of experiences in the legacy SPG ambassador thread. I did have a three week gap between ambassadors but there has been no problem.
I raised questions earlier regarding location. If ambassadors are in Massachusetts, Kansas, or Texas or Europe/Asia, they are from the legacy SPG program not Marriott.
You raise valid points about the IT infrastructure. I don't know whether the person driving that is a legacy SPG or legacy MR person.
I think people can also raise valid points about Mr. Flueck's leadership ... since you'd think he would have known that (a) there would be new members with ambassadors who would need people assigned, (b) the SPG properties would be continuing to operate on a platform that provided limited information regarding status, and (c) the program needed to keep their best customers happy.
#1075
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LGA/JFK/EWR
Programs: UA 1K1.75MM, Hyatt Globalist, abandoned Marriott LTT (RIP SPG), Hertz PC
Posts: 21,172
Most of the complaints about ambassador responsiveness in this thread are from people with ambassadors from the legacy SPG program so it can't be "pre-merge Marriott “Ambassadors” now having to function like their pre-merge SPG Ambassador peers despite the obvious lack of experience.
#1076
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
You must be reading a different thread than I am....while the legacy SPG Ambassadors have all been a mixed bag, people are complaining in this thread about 1) not getting assigned an Ambassador (assuming mostly legacy Marriott people just getting one for the first time), or 2) assigned one but never hearing from them, or 3) sending requests to the new Ambassador and never hearing back.
#1077
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: Bonvoy ambassador - lifetime plat / Hilton diamond / hyatt globalist / AA CK baby!
Posts: 896
As I mentioned in a post in this thread a week or two ago I have not been able to reach my ambassador ONCE since the merger, at least never on the phone. I was having a problem making a booking at a particular property (turned out it was an it issue from switching their system over) so I call in to my ambassador and get put in the line to reach the next available ambassador. The guy i talked to was really helpful, called the property, called me right back with answers for me, and most importantly, actually picked up the phone when I called him back. So We are talking a little bit about the list of things I was waiting for *my* ambassador to do and he asks me if there was anything else I needed. I jokingly said 'yeah, switch me from my current ambassador to you'. He sheepishly admitted that this was not really condoned, but that he had no way of topping me if I would respond to one of his emails with exactly such a request - and typically said requests are honored.
Simple as that I have a new ambassador who actually is reachable on the phone AND gets stuff done for me. I know others have always said that it was the luck of the draw with who you got assigned to, but with the way my experience went downhill after aug 18th, I assumed it was all because of the merger. Now I see what having someone helpful at starriot is like and i'm really impressed. I went out of my way to tell him I didnt need a lot of hand holding BUT that a stay in london coming up before christmas was to celebrate a 10 year anniversary, so lets see if he goes above and beyond. Given his performance thus far I'm expecting nothing less than tea with the queen...
Simple as that I have a new ambassador who actually is reachable on the phone AND gets stuff done for me. I know others have always said that it was the luck of the draw with who you got assigned to, but with the way my experience went downhill after aug 18th, I assumed it was all because of the merger. Now I see what having someone helpful at starriot is like and i'm really impressed. I went out of my way to tell him I didnt need a lot of hand holding BUT that a stay in london coming up before christmas was to celebrate a 10 year anniversary, so lets see if he goes above and beyond. Given his performance thus far I'm expecting nothing less than tea with the queen...
#1078
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Seattle
Programs: Marriott Ambassador LT Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, United LT Silver
Posts: 1,085
Not quite. Marriott had an Ambassador program before 8/18. Members were selected by Marriott based on unpublished criteria (in my case I have been legacy Plat Premier for too many years to count). The SPG program was easier to qualify for so they had more ambassadors. It's my understanding that the ambassador program is under David Flueck so your explanation isn't entirely right. My legacy Marriott ambassador retired shortly after the merge and I went two to three weeks before a new one was assigned but since then I haven't had any problems.
I believe based on postings here that there are US based ambassadors in Omaha, Kansas City, Austin, Boston, and Salt Lake City. By and large, its the same people doing the same thing..
I believe based on postings here that there are US based ambassadors in Omaha, Kansas City, Austin, Boston, and Salt Lake City. By and large, its the same people doing the same thing..
I don't know anything about locations, but my ambassador comes from SPG and is based in Ontario. I figured she worked from home, but based on this thread I guess not?
#1079
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
Yeah, I know about the Marriott program, but didn't really factor that in due to it being undefined/unpublished.
I don't know anything about locations, but my ambassador comes from SPG and is based in Ontario. I figured she worked from home, but based on this thread I guess not?
I don't know anything about locations, but my ambassador comes from SPG and is based in Ontario. I figured she worked from home, but based on this thread I guess not?
As a general rule, it seems legacy SPG folks continue to be served by legacy SPG ambassadors. I haven't seen any complaints in this thread about Omaha based ambassadors .... but maybe I've missed them. I think that is because SPG had movement between people who gained/loss ambassadors while Marriott didn't take away an ambassador once you had them,
#1080
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Delta Diamond, Marriott Ambassador & Lifetime Titanium, Hertz President's Circle, United Silver
Posts: 6,334
Yeah, I know about the Marriott program, but didn't really factor that in due to it being undefined/unpublished.
I don't know anything about locations, but my ambassador comes from SPG and is based in Ontario. I figured she worked from home, but based on this thread I guess not?
I don't know anything about locations, but my ambassador comes from SPG and is based in Ontario. I figured she worked from home, but based on this thread I guess not?
I then called the ambassador line, spoke a helpful gentleman from Omaha who gave me the contact information for the ambassador assigned to me. I emailed my ambassador, who was based in Austin, and received a response the following morning, Thursday. He asked when he could call me. I gave him times for later that day and the following day, but, of course, he never called and never responded to email.
Meanwhile, the ambassador who answered the line when I first called, the Omaha fellow, has twice followed up with me. Once to see if my ambassador responded and twice to see about helping me with my upcoming stays. If my ambassador, who I presume is legacy SPG since he is based in Austin, doesn't respond by the close of business today I'm going to either call and ask for a supervisor or ask the Omaha fellow to be my ambassador since he seems to actually care.
I don't expect much out of ambassador because most of my stays are work stays are at domestic properties that are hardly aspirational. I suspect the most I could get out of an airport Marriott or airport Sheraton is maybe a bottle of cheap Andre sparkling wine. On Friday, I did tell the Omaha ambassador temporarily helping me that my suite night award certificates hadn't yet cleared for the J.W. Marriott Grosvenor House, noting this was a "special" trip for me. He said he would see what he could do. They cleared last night and now I have a premium park suite, the highest category of suite available with the certificate at this particular property and, overall, the second-highest category of suites the hotel has in its inventory. The suite has a fireplace in the living room, a separate bedroom, a huge bathroom, and what looks like a balcony or terrace.