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lkar Feb 26, 2013 2:21 pm


Originally Posted by ExpatSomchai (Post 20321842)
Please advise dates

14 July to 19 July

allan8458 Feb 27, 2013 11:38 am

Courtyard Zurich North
 
Looking for a LNF rate for Courtyard Zurich North - April 8-9. Currect rate on Marriott's website is 249 CHF. Any help appreciated.

Thanks

mileq Feb 28, 2013 2:35 am

Hi all FT friends,

I am trying to find better rate for:
Waikoloa Beach Marriott Resort & Spa
dates: March 21-27, 2013
room: Pool View
rate: $223 + taxes: $33.27 + resort fee $25 = $281.27/night

Thanks in advance for any suggestions :)

USirritated Feb 28, 2013 4:31 am


Originally Posted by mileq (Post 20331678)
Hi all FT friends,

I am trying to find better rate for:
Waikoloa Beach Marriott Resort & Spa
dates: March 21-27, 2013
room: Pool View
rate: $223 + taxes: $33.27 + resort fee $25 = $281.27/night

Thanks in advance for any suggestions :)

You have PM.

odp Feb 28, 2013 10:49 am

Hey everybody,

Looking for a better rate at Marriott's Ko Olina Beach Club (Kapolei/HNL)
Guest room, 1 King, Sofabed, Mountain view, Balcony
Regular rate is $254, non-refundable, comes out to $289.46/night after taxes.

The rewards rate is $220, so I'm looking to beat that. (but I figure anything less than $254 with 25% off will be less than the $220)

5 nights, May 13-18

USirritated Feb 28, 2013 11:19 am


Originally Posted by odp (Post 20333697)
Hey everybody,

Looking for a better rate at Marriott's Ko Olina Beach Club (Kapolei/HNL)
Guest room, 1 King, Sofabed, Mountain view, Balcony
Regular rate is $254, non-refundable, comes out to $289.46/night after taxes.

The rewards rate is $220, so I'm looking to beat that. (but I figure anything less than $254 with 25% off will be less than the $220)

5 nights, May 13-18

For a combination of circumstances, I do not believe that your rate would be valid for LNF.

First, the rate of $220 is not available to the general public, see the rules (applicable areas bolded), from the Marriott website LNF rules, below.

Second, the lowest rate is now $203 (see below in red), and that rate is not LNFable, and the rules require you to reserve the lowest rate, that might make the $254 also not LNFable.

Third, taxes never have anything to do with LNF rates.

Fourth, I am by no means a LNF expert, so if I am wrong about any of the foregoing, I welcome the correct information.

FYI:

Terms & Conditions

....snip....

The guarantee does not apply to the following rate types:
Rates that are not publicly available, such as negotiated corporate or group rates.
Discount rates offered only to members of groups or individuals who meet previously-specified criteria, including AAA members, seniors, government employees, or Marriott Rewards members.
Package rates that include the room and other components such as travel, car rental, entertainment, and/or non-breakfast meals.
Package or group add-on rates that extend the length of a stay.
Rates negotiated for stays extending beyond 30 nights.
Rates that are available on auction Web sites.
Rates available on Web sites, such as Priceline and Hotwire, that do not disclose the hotel brand until the reservation is completed.
Pre-paid rates that involve a voucher or other form of pre-paid certificate (including electronic vouchers and certificates) for a hotel stay outside the United States and Canada.

....snip....

When multiple rates for the same hotel, reservation dates, and room type are available through a Marriott channel you must reserve the lowest rate to be eligible for the guarantee.

The Comparison Rate must be reservable by the general public and be verifiable by Marriott. If the Comparison Rate is offered through a Marriott channel, you must reserve that rate to qualify for the guarantee. Marriott will not charge a cancellation fee. If the Comparison Rate is reserved through a non-Marriott channel, Marriott is not responsible for any fees or other costs incurred due to cancellation of a reservation.

Rate comparison will be made net of any taxes, gratuities, or any other fees associated with the room rate, and the Comparison Rate must still be available at the time Marriott validates the claim. Rate disparities solely attributable to fluctuations and/or differences in currency exchange rates are excluded from the guarantee.

....snip....

Marriott Rewards Elite Exclusive Offer, 40 percent off Leisure Rate, membership card required, based upon availability, limited to 2 rooms per card member, see Rate Rules

203.00 USD / Night
Guest room, 1 King, Sofabed, Mountain view, Balcony

odp Feb 28, 2013 12:16 pm

Sorry, I probably wasn't too clear - I'm looking to book a lower rate than $220, which I hope to achieve by finding a better rate than the $254. (or would I have to find a better rate then $220, even that that's the Marriott Rewards rate, of which I'm not a member of at the moment, or do I now have to find a better rate than $203? [of which I had no idea existed])

If I don't find an LNF to beat the $254 (which would result in $189.75 at the most) then I'll become a member and book the $220 Rewards Rate.


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 20333910)
For a combination of circumstances, I do not believe that your rate would be valid for LNF.

First, the rate of $220 is not available to the general public, see the rules (applicable areas bolded), from the Marriott website LNF rules, below.

Second, the lowest rate is now $203 (see below in red), and that rate is not LNFable, and the rules require you to reserve the lowest rate, that might make the $254 also not LNFable.

Third, taxes never have anything to do with LNF rates.

Fourth, I am by no means a LNF expert, so if I am wrong about any of the foregoing, I welcome the correct information.

FYI:

Terms & Conditions

....snip....

The guarantee does not apply to the following rate types:
Rates that are not publicly available, such as negotiated corporate or group rates.
Discount rates offered only to members of groups or individuals who meet previously-specified criteria, including AAA members, seniors, government employees, or Marriott Rewards members.
Package rates that include the room and other components such as travel, car rental, entertainment, and/or non-breakfast meals.
Package or group add-on rates that extend the length of a stay.
Rates negotiated for stays extending beyond 30 nights.
Rates that are available on auction Web sites.
Rates available on Web sites, such as Priceline and Hotwire, that do not disclose the hotel brand until the reservation is completed.
Pre-paid rates that involve a voucher or other form of pre-paid certificate (including electronic vouchers and certificates) for a hotel stay outside the United States and Canada.

....snip....

When multiple rates for the same hotel, reservation dates, and room type are available through a Marriott channel you must reserve the lowest rate to be eligible for the guarantee.

The Comparison Rate must be reservable by the general public and be verifiable by Marriott. If the Comparison Rate is offered through a Marriott channel, you must reserve that rate to qualify for the guarantee. Marriott will not charge a cancellation fee. If the Comparison Rate is reserved through a non-Marriott channel, Marriott is not responsible for any fees or other costs incurred due to cancellation of a reservation.

Rate comparison will be made net of any taxes, gratuities, or any other fees associated with the room rate, and the Comparison Rate must still be available at the time Marriott validates the claim. Rate disparities solely attributable to fluctuations and/or differences in currency exchange rates are excluded from the guarantee.

....snip....

Marriott Rewards Elite Exclusive Offer, 40 percent off Leisure Rate, membership card required, based upon availability, limited to 2 rooms per card member, see Rate Rules

203.00 USD / Night
Guest room, 1 King, Sofabed, Mountain view, Balcony


Twickenham Feb 28, 2013 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 20333910)
Second, the lowest rate is now $203 (see below in red), and that rate is not LNFable, and the rules require you to reserve the lowest rate, that might make the $254 also not LNFable.
*snip*
Fourth, I am by no means a LNF expert, so if I am wrong about any of the foregoing, I welcome the correct information.

Well, if you insist :D.

Regarding the first bit I bolded above: this part of the rules is both misunderstood and poorly explained by Marriott. In fact, as long as the rate you reserve is the lowest that corresponds to the rate you're comparing it too as far as room type and booking conditions go, it's LNFable. So, it doesn't matter what the Elite member, AAA, senior, etc. rates are, as long as the lowest publicly-available rate can be beaten, you'll be approved. In the same vein, if you have a site with a lower cancellable rate, but the Marriott site's lowest rate is non-cancellable, don't use that rate; rather, use the lowest cancellable rate.

USirritated Feb 28, 2013 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by Twickenham (Post 20334361)
Well, if you insist :D.

Regarding the first bit I bolded above: this part of the rules is both misunderstood and poorly explained by Marriott. In fact, as long as the rate you reserve is the lowest that corresponds to the rate you're comparing it too as far as room type and booking conditions go, it's LNFable. So, it doesn't matter what the Elite member, AAA, senior, etc. rates are, as long as the lowest publicly-available rate can be beaten, you'll be approved. In the same vein, if you have a site with a lower cancellable rate, but the Marriott site's lowest rate is non-cancellable, don't use that rate; rather, use the lowest cancellable rate.

Poorly explained is putting it mildly!

As far as the OP goes, it is not so simple as becoming a member, since those are elite only rates, and you can't just sign up to be a member in a snap. However, you can ask for a Gold or Platinum challenge, and then you will qualify as a member, if they grant you the challenge. As far as what the rates are, they are subject to change at any time, so it is not a great surprise that the member rate which you found, $220, might have changed to $203, and then maybe an hour later, might change back to $220, or even higher or different.

OP, you have PM.

calbear21 Feb 28, 2013 11:19 pm

If someone could help me out. I'm looking for an LNF in San Francisco.
Check in: March 22nd
Check out: March 23rd

JW Marriott SF Union Square: $179
Marriott Marquis: $169
Marriott SF Union Square: $189

USirritated Mar 1, 2013 5:19 am


Originally Posted by calbear21 (Post 20337714)
If someone could help me out. I'm looking for an LNF in San Francisco.
Check in: March 22nd
Check out: March 23rd

JW Marriott SF Union Square: $179
Marriott Marquis: $169
Marriott SF Union Square: $189

What have you done, where have you looked, so far, for better rates in order to attempt an LNF claim?

rylan Mar 1, 2013 1:09 pm

Would appreciate if anyone can find better rates for the any of the following:

Providence Marriott Downtown (Providence, RI)
dates: Aug 9-11, 2013
rate: 209/nt + tax, king

Courtyard Allentown Bethlehem/Lehigh Valley Airport (Bethlehem, PA)
dates: Nov 22-24, 2013
rate: 129/nt + tax, king

Fairfield Inn & Suites Allentown Bethlehem/Lehigh Valley Airport (Bethlehem, PA)
dates: Nov 22-24, 2013
rate: 149/nt + tax, king

threedjmay Mar 1, 2013 8:36 pm


Originally Posted by threedjmay (Post 20286947)
Looking for the San Diego Marriott Marina & Marquis from 6/22 - 6/26. I'm only finding Marriott's price for $299.

I'd be open for other in the area, but I've stayed at that hotel before and I'd to go there with my wife this year.

I may try to change my dates to be 6/14 - 6/19 for a lower rate. I'm seeing a $225 rate for a bay view or $229 for a city view, so if I can find a lower rate around $220 it would reduce it to around $150 and I would go earlier.

lililolo Mar 2, 2013 8:43 pm

Marriott Austin South
 
Looking for an LNF in Austin, Texas.
Check in: April 5th, 2013
Check out: April 6th, 2013

Marriott Austin South: $169.95
Springhill Suites: $119

Thanks in advance,

atlantabraves2000 Mar 2, 2013 9:38 pm

Nevermind


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