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superpilot21 Mar 27, 2013 9:22 am


Originally Posted by armjo1 (Post 20491377)
Any better rates out there for the JW Chicago that can be found?

JW CHICAGO
5/4/13-5/5/13
Marriott Price is $209

Being from the US but living abroad, your dates are making me dizzy. I have no idea what month you're talking about.:confused::D

I am really blowing this thread up today!

USirritated Mar 27, 2013 9:29 am


Originally Posted by superpilot21 (Post 20490714)
Thanks! Glad to be here!!

I read your post about your username being about a bad day with USAir... but for now every time I see it I don't want to irritate you! It's a funny feeling.

Please, don't feel that you irritate me in any way! LOL, it is funny though.

Please forgive this part of my post as being off topic for the thread. As far as my irritation with USAirways, believe me, it was for far more than just one bad day! I am about the most loyal person on the planet, and I was Gold, Platinum, and Chairman's Preferred through US from 1985 through 2008, 23 years!

US reduced the size of first and business class sections across their fleet, they reduced the benefits for all Preferred members except Chairman's, they broke written promises (to me), they allowed their planes to deteriorate due to cancelled or deferred interior maintenance, they reduced service to my home airport, they reduced and then tried to eliminate the minimum mileage per segment, they reduced the number of SWU's for Golds and Plats (and made them more restricted and expensive to use) for they continually reduced meal service in F, they reduced seat pitch across their fleet, and a whole lot more. US did not just irritate one of their most loyal customers, they almost literally pushed me out the door!

The funny thing is, with the changes in the last two years from Delta, and the pending merger with AA, I am actually considering moving my loyalty back to US for next year, after the US/AA merger.


Originally Posted by superpilot21 (Post 20491105)
Important question!

I booked Phoenix Marriott Tempe at The Buttes a back in February for 10 nights in May at a rate of 239/nt. Now, today just booked the same room, same nights, for $199.

Reading through the LNF small print I think this still qualifies even though they're both through marriott.com??

Also are the points awarded based on the actual amount paid or the amount for the original reservation? As this is a client paid stay there isn't much incentive for me to submit a claim and lose out on almost 15,000 points.

No, the situation you have illustrated does not qualify for LNF. Reason 1, LNF requires the first rez to be no more than 24 hours before the second rez. Reason 2, Marriott will not compete with itself by allowing LNF claims for a marriott.com rez against another Marriott rez through any Marriott channel. Another reason is that you can always modify the earlier rez to the lower rate by simply putting in a call to Marriott reservations.

superpilot21 Mar 27, 2013 9:38 am


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 20491552)
Please, don't feel that you irritate me in any way! LOL, it is funny though.

Please forgive this part of my post as being off topic for the thread. As far as my irritation with USAirways, believe me, it was for far more than just one bad day! I am about the most loyal person on the planet, and I was Gold, Platinum, and Chairman's Preferred through US from 1985 through 2008, 23 years!

US reduced the size of first and business class sections across their fleet, they reduced the benefits for all Preferred members except Chairman's, they broke written promises (to me), they allowed their planes to deteriorate due to cancelled or deferred interior maintenance, they reduced service to my home airport, they reduced and then tried to eliminate the minimum mileage per segment, they reduced the number of SWU's for Golds and Plats (and made them more restricted and expensive to use) for they continually reduced meal service in F, they reduced seat pitch across their fleet, and a whole lot more. US did not just irritate one of their most loyal customers, they almost literally pushed me out the door!

The funny thing is, with the changes in the last two years from Delta, and the pending merger with AA, I am actually considering moving my loyalty back to US for next year, after the US/AA merger.



No, the situation you have illustrated does not qualify for LNF. Reason 1, LNF requires the first rez to be no more than 24 hours before the second rez. Reason 2, Marriott will not compete with itself by allowing LNF claims for a marriott.com rez against another Marriott rez through any Marriott channel. Another reason is that you can always modify the earlier rez to the lower rate by simply putting in a call to Marriott reservations.

Ahhh yes.. I see the 24 hour bit.

But as far as marriott competing against itself...

Can you check this link: https://www.marriott.com/hotel-prices/faqs.mi

Under:

What information do I need to send to Marriott to help verify my claim?

"The claim form outlines all required information for your claim. You will need to provide Marriott with specific information depending on where you found the comparison rate to help us verify your claim.

If your comparison rate was found on a non-Marriott Internet Web site (for example: Hotels.com, Expedia.com, Travelocity.com), your claim must include the URL of the page where you saw the lower rate.
If your comparison rate was found on a Marriott Internet Web site, through Marriott Worldwide Reservations, at a Marriott hotel, or through a travel agency or travel management company, your claim must include a Marriott confirmation number."

I totally hear you about the airlines... I don't have much experience buying tickets but I have flown quite a bit nonrev/jumpseating. Until 09 I could count on business.. towards the end it was usually middle seat in the back. They too pushed me out with their low pay, lousy schedule and lack of respect. I'm now flying a private jet for a private individual. It is SWEET!

mindrisa Mar 27, 2013 9:54 am

Marriott WILL LNF against themselves, but I assume this will be extremely difficult to find as Marriott uses the same systems across the board. I guess you may get lucky when at 1:00am or whatever once a week prices may change but not sure.

superpilot21 Mar 27, 2013 10:08 am


Originally Posted by mindrisa (Post 20491699)
Marriott WILL LNF against themselves, but I assume this will be extremely difficult to find as Marriott uses the same systems across the board. I guess you may get lucky when at 1:00am or whatever once a week prices may change but not sure.

Thanks. It would be cool to know if there was a universal time they changed the rates... obviously if the rate was 239 and now it's 199 it had to have changed sometime!

RMPearl Mar 27, 2013 11:05 am

Still hoping that someone will be able to help me out ...

Looking for the Renaissance Blackstone in Chicago for the following dates:
Check In: 07/18
Check Out: 07/22
Current Marriott Rate: $289

Would also consider the JW Marriott
Same Dates
Current Marriott Rate: $269

Thanks for the help!

mike2200 Mar 27, 2013 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by RMPearl (Post 20492101)
Still hoping that someone will be able to help me out ...

Looking for the Renaissance Blackstone in Chicago for the following dates:
Check In: 07/18
Check Out: 07/22
Current Marriott Rate: $289

Would also consider the JW Marriott
Same Dates
Current Marriott Rate: $269

Thanks for the help!


Renaissance Blackstone Chicago Hotel
4 Stars

From 18 Jul 2013 to 22 Jul 2013, 4 night(s) - 1 Room(s) : 2 Adult(s), 0 Child(ren)

Type of room
Double Room Capacity: Person(s)Person(s) 2 Adult(s), 0 Child(ren) Room only 218 $ /night Best Price 872 $ (4 Nights) plus taxes and fees of 157 $

nycvisitor Mar 28, 2013 8:33 am

I'd be grateful for help with finding LNF rate for Seoul - CY or Ren July 18-22 (4 nights). I'm seeing some great rates on websites that are ineligible due to no voucher policy...

ExpatSomchai Mar 29, 2013 8:58 am


Originally Posted by nycvisitor (Post 20497135)
I'd be grateful for help with finding LNF rate for Seoul - CY or Ren July 18-22 (4 nights). I'm seeing some great rates on websites that are ineligible due to no voucher policy...


Prices?

sophiegirl Mar 31, 2013 8:28 pm

Any assistance with the below would be most appreciated.

Residence Inn Waterfront Portland, Maine
Deluxe Studio Waterview

September $359.00; 9/7
September $319.00; 9/8 and 9/10

TIA

sophiegirl Mar 31, 2013 8:51 pm


Originally Posted by USirritated (Post 20491552)
No, the situation you have illustrated does not qualify for LNF. Reason 1, LNF requires the first rez to be no more than 24 hours before the second rez. Reason 2, Marriott will not compete with itself by allowing LNF claims for a marriott.com rez against another Marriott rez through any Marriott channel. Another reason is that you can always modify the earlier rez to the lower rate by simply putting in a call to Marriott reservations.


US, you are correct, the illustration does not qualify for LNF because of the 24 hour timeframe, and you are also correct that he could just call customer service and change the rate. However, it IS possible to LNF 2 rates off of Marriott.com, I have done it many times.



Originally Posted by superpilot21 (Post 20491604)
But as far as marriott competing against itself...
Can you check this link: https://www.marriott.com/hotel-prices/faqs.mi
Under:
What information do I need to send to Marriott to help verify my claim?
"The claim form outlines all required information for your claim. You will need to provide Marriott with specific information depending on where you found the comparison rate to help us verify your claim......
If your comparison rate was found on a Marriott Internet Web site, through Marriott Worldwide Reservations, at a Marriott hotel, or through a travel agency or travel management company, your claim must include a Marriott confirmation number."


This is correct. And when it works, it works particularly well, because you have (2) confirmed reservations on their own site....they can easily verify it, none of that "rate has disappeared" stuff.



Originally Posted by mindrisa (Post 20491699)
Marriott WILL LNF against themselves, but I assume this will be extremely difficult to find as Marriott uses the same systems across the board. I guess you may get lucky when at 1:00am or whatever once a week prices may change but not sure.


It used to be really easy, harder now, but still doable. Nothing to do with the time change...merely find a rate code that does not have any criteria associated to it.



Originally Posted by superpilot21 (Post 20491775)
Thanks. It would be cool to know if there was a universal time they changed the rates... obviously if the rate was 239 and now it's 199 it had to have changed sometime!

You are caught up in your current rates - no real benefit there at this point. What you should do is call Marriott, get the rate reduced to 199...and then go find a rate lower than $199 and file an LNF!

coffee18 Mar 31, 2013 8:55 pm

I'd appreciate any help for the hotel below, thanks.

La Concha Renaissance San Juan Resort

In 5/5/13
Out 5/9/13

1 Bedroom Suite, 1 King, Sofabed, Ocean view, Balcony
399
USD / Night

USirritated Mar 31, 2013 9:13 pm


Originally Posted by sophiegirl (Post 20514644)

US, you are correct, the illustration does not qualify for LNF because of the 24 hour timeframe, and you are also correct that he could just call customer service and change the rate. However, it IS possible to LNF 2 rates off of Marriott.com, I have done it many times.



This is correct. And when it works, it works particularly well, because you have (2) confirmed reservations on their own site....they can easily verify it, none of that "rate has disappeared" stuff.



It used to be really easy, harder now, but still doable. Nothing to do with the time change...merely find a rate code that does not have any criteria associated to it.


....snip....

How, what, where, why would Marriott do/allow such a thing as to compete with themselves?

USirritated Mar 31, 2013 9:16 pm

Obscure Booking Sites for LNF (V.6) Monday distribution
 
For those people who are interested in receiving the LIST OF OBSCURE BOOKING SITES for LNF by PRIVATE MESSAGE, and have not already sent me a PM request, this is a reminder that I will be sending the weekly distribution of the list sometime after midday tomorrow. Just send me a PM sometime before noon EST on Monday, and I will gladly include you on the distribution roster.

superpilot21 Mar 31, 2013 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by sophiegirl (Post 20514644)
You are caught up in your current rates - no real benefit there at this point. What you should do is call Marriott, get the rate reduced to 199...and then go find a rate lower than $199 and file an LNF!

Thanks for your detailed response!

Now the moral dilemma. Since I'm not paying, is if it is worth it to switch to the lower rate and miss out on the points or save the client money.


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