Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
Apr 22, 2018, 9:14 pm
#3016
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: SPG Plat, Marriott Plat, Hilton Diamond, United Premier Silver
Posts: 208
The T and C states "Conversions for hotel and air packages from Hotel Partners are not included for this offer. "
Apr 23, 2018, 7:53 am
#3017
Join Date: Jan 2011
Programs: oneworld, * Alliance, Marriott Bonvoy, HHonors, WoH
Posts: 2,120
Apr 23, 2018, 9:00 am
#3018
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: New York
Programs: MB-LTT , HH-Diam., HGP-Expl.
Posts: 778
Apr 23, 2018, 1:35 pm
#3019
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, Marriott Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,598
Apr 23, 2018, 2:03 pm
#3020
Used to be 'flymanbeast'
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: Delta silver/marriot platinum
Posts: 2,795
How long for transfer of miles with the flights+ miles package?
Waiting for a few days now to my aa account yet no miles yet...
Apr 23, 2018, 3:41 pm
#3021
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: SFO/YYZ
Programs: AC 25K, AS MVP Gold, BA Bronze, UA Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,470
Managed to convince a Marriott supervisor to downgrade my Tier 5 cert to a Cat 8 and refund the 180k point difference even though conversions between Marriott and Ritz tiers are apparently not normally allowed. Looks like Ritz will be bookable for 60k/night as of August, but I suspect the Cat 8 hotel I've been looking at will end up increasing in price.
Apr 23, 2018, 6:59 pm
#3022
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DTW
Programs: AMEX, Ritz LT-Plat Prem, Hyatt Plat, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond, Delta Plat, United Gold, Sixt Plat
Posts: 866
Managed to convince a Marriott supervisor to downgrade my Tier 5 cert to a Cat 8 and refund the 180k point difference even though conversions between Marriott and Ritz tiers are apparently not normally allowed. Looks like Ritz will be bookable for 60k/night as of August, but I suspect the Cat 8 hotel I've been looking at will end up increasing in price.
Apr 24, 2018, 3:22 am
#3023
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 433
So if a RC hotel is going down to 60,000 a night would we be safe in sticking with a Tier 1-3 package or should I upgrade to Tier 4-5 package (and hope for a refund of points).
Apr 24, 2018, 5:16 am
#3024
Join Date: Apr 2016
Programs: BAEC, Flying Club, HHonors, Gold Passport, IHG Rewards, Le Club Accor, Club Carlson
Posts: 323
I currently have a 1-5 Cat voucher that lasts until April 19. My intention before the changes was to upgrade it to a Cat 7 or 8 voucher and redeem for one of the hotels I wanted in that category in either Hawaii or Whistler (still making up my mind which trip to do). Does anyone have any idea as to what the best approach is? I.e. upgrade and book now, hold until Aug then book etc. Also, what is the policy on new package buys? Before or after Aug?
Apr 24, 2018, 9:28 am
#3025
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZ, YUL, PEK
Posts: 429
When you guys opt to use a 7-night cert for only a 5-night stay, do you typically make a booking of 7 nights and just leave the hotel prior to your check-out date? Or do you make a booking of 5 nights and apply the cert towards that?
Surely it would be beneficial to do the former, given the extra elite nights you'd earn? Is there a chance of the hotel penalizing you when it finds out that you've bailed a few days earlier?
Surely it would be beneficial to do the former, given the extra elite nights you'd earn? Is there a chance of the hotel penalizing you when it finds out that you've bailed a few days earlier?
Apr 24, 2018, 10:12 am
#3026
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Thousand Oaks, Ca., USA
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat; Bonvoy Titanium Lifetime Elite;Hyatt Globalist; HHonors Diamond; United Silver
Posts: 8,315
Wish I could be convinced to pull the trigger on one of these, but I have so many airline miles, which are hard to use, vs MR points, which even though capacity controlled, are easier to use.
seems like I’ll run out of MR points before airline miles.
and since I was ready planning a week at a Cat 6 next year, getting them at 60k vs 100k in the new scheme, and 105k in the old SPG (converters to MR) values, that trumps the boost from swapping MR points for airline miles.
seems like I’ll run out of MR points before airline miles.
and since I was ready planning a week at a Cat 6 next year, getting them at 60k vs 100k in the new scheme, and 105k in the old SPG (converters to MR) values, that trumps the boost from swapping MR points for airline miles.
Apr 24, 2018, 10:24 am
#3027
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,412
Wish I could be convinced to pull the trigger on one of these, but I have so many airline miles, which are hard to use, vs MR points, which even though capacity controlled, are easier to use.
seems like I’ll run out of MR points before airline miles.
and since I was ready planning a week at a Cat 6 next year, getting them at 60k vs 100k in the new scheme, and 105k in the old SPG (converters to MR) values, that trumps the boost from swapping MR points for airline miles.
seems like I’ll run out of MR points before airline miles.
and since I was ready planning a week at a Cat 6 next year, getting them at 60k vs 100k in the new scheme, and 105k in the old SPG (converters to MR) values, that trumps the boost from swapping MR points for airline miles.
I'm confused by your numbers though, or why you think your property is going from 60K (per night? per week?) to 100K.
Apr 24, 2018, 10:44 am
#3028
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
Posts: 295
Wish I could be convinced to pull the trigger on one of these, but I have so many airline miles, which are hard to use, vs MR points, which even though capacity controlled, are easier to use.
seems like I’ll run out of MR points before airline miles.
and since I was ready planning a week at a Cat 6 next year, getting them at 60k vs 100k in the new scheme, and 105k in the old SPG (converters to MR) values, that trumps the boost from swapping MR points for airline miles.
seems like I’ll run out of MR points before airline miles.
and since I was ready planning a week at a Cat 6 next year, getting them at 60k vs 100k in the new scheme, and 105k in the old SPG (converters to MR) values, that trumps the boost from swapping MR points for airline miles.
Apr 24, 2018, 11:15 am
#3029
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 297
When you guys opt to use a 7-night cert for only a 5-night stay, do you typically make a booking of 7 nights and just leave the hotel prior to your check-out date? Or do you make a booking of 5 nights and apply the cert towards that?
Surely it would be beneficial to do the former, given the extra elite nights you'd earn? Is there a chance of the hotel penalizing you when it finds out that you've bailed a few days earlier?
Surely it would be beneficial to do the former, given the extra elite nights you'd earn? Is there a chance of the hotel penalizing you when it finds out that you've bailed a few days earlier?
Apr 24, 2018, 11:25 am
#3030
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
Programs: Airline Free Agent, Bonvoy Platinum, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,811
You must book a 7 night stay to use the 7 night certificate from travel package. You can just check in on the first day and check out anytime after that you will still be charged (with the 7 night certificate) for the full 7 nights. I don't think the hotels will care at all if you check out earlier cuz that is even better for them.