Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Marriott Travel Packages
May 2, 2018, 2:11 pm
#3061
Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: Aeroplan, Amex AeroPlat
Posts: 977
Today I talked to a MR rep on the phone for a good hour.
She said, take it with a grain of salt if you will, that I should attach my 7-night certificates to reservations before August 1 in order for me to keep my reservation in effect. I have two reservations, both of which are booked right now on points (without enough points) for stays next March.
So yeah. I will probably do that, worst case I could cancel if it turns out that they are coverting the 7-night cert to 150K points and my booked hotels are moved to lower cat/ requiring less points.
She said, take it with a grain of salt if you will, that I should attach my 7-night certificates to reservations before August 1 in order for me to keep my reservation in effect. I have two reservations, both of which are booked right now on points (without enough points) for stays next March.
So yeah. I will probably do that, worst case I could cancel if it turns out that they are coverting the 7-night cert to 150K points and my booked hotels are moved to lower cat/ requiring less points.
May 2, 2018, 2:54 pm
#3062
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: bay area, ca
Programs: UA plat, , aa plat, marriott LT titanium
Posts: 4,833
I did, but the reps say different (and if attempt to pay for nights as I think described that would be invalid) - that said if it can be done online and works great - has anyone actually done this successfully - not just booking but actual stay where the hotel doesn't have an issue with it.
May 2, 2018, 4:17 pm
#3063
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,210
I had a 5 night cert which I got a few weeks back. A few days ago I deposited some more points into my account to upgrade this to a cat 9 cert. Today I got a email to say that this has been cancelled and replaced by a 7 night cat 1-5 cert.
Spoke to a CS rep and a supervisor and they are saying that it was the audit team that replaced it due to me not being a MVC member. Issue is that I have made a 5 night reservation which is now within the 30 day cancellation deadline and I don't have any more points to upgrade the 7 night cert to a cat 9. They admit it was a error on their part but say they can't help.
Normally I would walk and cancel my reservation but that is non cancellable now and I don't have enough points for it.
Any suggestions?
Spoke to a CS rep and a supervisor and they are saying that it was the audit team that replaced it due to me not being a MVC member. Issue is that I have made a 5 night reservation which is now within the 30 day cancellation deadline and I don't have any more points to upgrade the 7 night cert to a cat 9. They admit it was a error on their part but say they can't help.
Normally I would walk and cancel my reservation but that is non cancellable now and I don't have enough points for it.
Any suggestions?
May 2, 2018, 4:44 pm
#3064
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 65
On flyertalk, I have not seen anyone mentioning about successfully have a single reservation incorporating more than 7 nights with a few paid nights in middle to use *7-night certificate*.
But I saw one guy mentioning this method on Marriott insider.
https://insiders.marriottrewards.com/thread/49888
I feel this strategy should work as we can use points redemption with mixed paid nights online.
But I saw one guy mentioning this method on Marriott insider.
https://insiders.marriottrewards.com/thread/49888
I feel this strategy should work as we can use points redemption with mixed paid nights online.
I did, but the reps say different (and if attempt to pay for nights as I think described that would be invalid) - that said if it can be done online and works great - has anyone actually done this successfully - not just booking but actual stay where the hotel doesn't have an issue with it.
May 2, 2018, 5:21 pm
#3065
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,815
I had a 5 night cert which I got a few weeks back. A few days ago I deposited some more points into my account to upgrade this to a cat 9 cert. Today I got a email to say that this has been cancelled and replaced by a 7 night cat 1-5 cert.
Spoke to a CS rep and a supervisor and they are saying that it was the audit team that replaced it due to me not being a MVC member. Issue is that I have made a 5 night reservation which is now within the 30 day cancellation deadline and I don't have any more points to upgrade the 7 night cert to a cat 9. They admit it was a error on their part but say they can't help.
Normally I would walk and cancel my reservation but that is non cancellable now and I don't have enough points for it.
Any suggestions?
Spoke to a CS rep and a supervisor and they are saying that it was the audit team that replaced it due to me not being a MVC member. Issue is that I have made a 5 night reservation which is now within the 30 day cancellation deadline and I don't have any more points to upgrade the 7 night cert to a cat 9. They admit it was a error on their part but say they can't help.
Normally I would walk and cancel my reservation but that is non cancellable now and I don't have enough points for it.
Any suggestions?
May 2, 2018, 6:34 pm
#3066
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: AA MM PP, MR LT Plat, Globalist
Posts: 1,004
Defer receiving miles?
Has anyone been able to order the package and defer receiving the miles? i.e. complete the stay, and choose later which program to credit the miles
May 3, 2018, 1:04 am
#3067
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,210
May 3, 2018, 5:56 am
#3068
Join Date: May 2009
Location: UK
Posts: 3,951
Most likely they'll be converted to the new categories on a points-basis. E.g. however many points/night you get for your category will be its new category. Or in other words, they'll retain their POINTS value, not their CATEGORY value. But we really don't know for certain.
I’ll maybe still upgrade, even just 1 category, before August to benefit from a year extension, the option of which may be removed come August.
May 3, 2018, 10:08 am
#3069
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,575
Today I talked to a MR rep on the phone for a good hour.
She said, take it with a grain of salt if you will, that I should attach my 7-night certificates to reservations before August 1 in order for me to keep my reservation in effect. I have two reservations, both of which are booked right now on points (without enough points) for stays next March.
So yeah. I will probably do that, worst case I could cancel if it turns out that they are coverting the 7-night cert to 150K points and my booked hotels are moved to lower cat/ requiring less points.
She said, take it with a grain of salt if you will, that I should attach my 7-night certificates to reservations before August 1 in order for me to keep my reservation in effect. I have two reservations, both of which are booked right now on points (without enough points) for stays next March.
So yeah. I will probably do that, worst case I could cancel if it turns out that they are coverting the 7-night cert to 150K points and my booked hotels are moved to lower cat/ requiring less points.
Hopefully we will have all of the information necessary by July for you to make a decision. Both the exact Travel Package awards available in the future and the new category (point level) for your hotel.
May 3, 2018, 5:00 pm
#3070
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: LAX
Posts: 10,911
+1 - i sure hope we have the info on categories and clarity on packages transition before they kick in
May 3, 2018, 7:57 pm
#3071
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DTW
Programs: AMEX, Ritz LT-Plat Prem, Hyatt Plat, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond, Delta Plat, United Gold, Sixt Plat
Posts: 866
May 4, 2018, 4:00 am
#3072
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Programs: BA Silver, EY Gold, HH Diamond, IHG Plat
Posts: 12,210
I had a 5 night cert which I got a few weeks back. A few days ago I deposited some more points into my account to upgrade this to a cat 9 cert. Today I got a email to say that this has been cancelled and replaced by a 7 night cat 1-5 cert.
Spoke to a CS rep and a supervisor and they are saying that it was the audit team that replaced it due to me not being a MVC member. Issue is that I have made a 5 night reservation which is now within the 30 day cancellation deadline and I don't have any more points to upgrade the 7 night cert to a cat 9. They admit it was a error on their part but say they can't help.
Normally I would walk and cancel my reservation but that is non cancellable now and I don't have enough points for it.
Any suggestions?
Spoke to a CS rep and a supervisor and they are saying that it was the audit team that replaced it due to me not being a MVC member. Issue is that I have made a 5 night reservation which is now within the 30 day cancellation deadline and I don't have any more points to upgrade the 7 night cert to a cat 9. They admit it was a error on their part but say they can't help.
Normally I would walk and cancel my reservation but that is non cancellable now and I don't have enough points for it.
Any suggestions?
It was the audit team that had done this. No need for my account to be audited I can only assume that they must be checking all new 5 night certs?
May 4, 2018, 5:45 am
#3073
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 1,815
No luck with this one. They are now saying that they have seen a note on my acc that I had called up last Dec and was advised that the 5 night is only for MVC members. They will not be doing anything about this. I have to pay the cash rate for the booking.
It was the audit team that had done this. No need for my account to be audited I can only assume that they must be checking all new 5 night certs?
It was the audit team that had done this. No need for my account to be audited I can only assume that they must be checking all new 5 night certs?
May 4, 2018, 9:58 am
#3074
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Silver, VS Red, HH Gold, IHG Gold, Marriott Gold, SPG Basic, Alitalia Status Match
Posts: 1,173
I read somewhere on the Marriott site that the exchange rate for all airline partners would be the same, which I think is good. It didn't specifically mention TPs, but I assume this point would cover TPs and ad hoc MR points->airline miles conversions.
May 4, 2018, 10:06 am
#3075
Join Date: May 2013
Location: DTW
Programs: AMEX, Ritz LT-Plat Prem, Hyatt Plat, SPG Plat, Hilton Diamond, Delta Plat, United Gold, Sixt Plat
Posts: 866
Since I only redeem with a TP this is a huge deal for me.