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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.

The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:

Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
  • Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
  • Submit your request
As a reminder, status.marriott.com will periodically have additional updates.
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html

The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.

Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:

"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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Old May 4, 2018, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by onlysuites
No luck with this one. They are now saying that they have seen a note on my acc that I had called up last Dec and was advised that the 5 night is only for MVC members. They will not be doing anything about this. I have to pay the cash rate for the booking.

It was the audit team that had done this. No need for my account to be audited I can only assume that they must be checking all new 5 night certs?
Or you just get the points you need to upgrade the cert? Can't be too difficult to do... Is the hotel available for two more nights? Is it a place you'd want to stay 7 (or even 6) nights?

It sounds like you took a risk and got caught. I know it's a thing the blogs talked about at one point, but we all knew for a long time that 5-nighters were for MVCI owners.
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Old May 4, 2018, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by pinniped
Or you just get the points you need to upgrade the cert? Can't be too difficult to do... Is the hotel available for two more nights? Is it a place you'd want to stay 7 (or even 6) nights?
And SPG points are on sale with 35% off at the moment. Maybe run the numbers and see if it's worth it to buy SPG points, transfer them to Marriott, and upgrade the cert that way? It still bites, but hopefully not as much.
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Old May 5, 2018, 3:55 am
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Originally Posted by t1c
Since I only redeem with a TP this is a huge deal for me.
I haven't checked current redemption rates, but this change would be an improvement for some partners and possibly a devaluation for others.
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Old May 5, 2018, 4:45 am
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Originally Posted by onlysuites
It was the audit team that had done this. No need for my account to be audited I can only assume that they must be checking all new 5 night certs?
I think they are checking all certificates, free night awards, travel package, etc. They could be in the process of reviewing all outstanding certificates to find out which ones will be converted to its new category.
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Old May 5, 2018, 4:49 am
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Originally Posted by pinniped
Or you just get the points you need to upgrade the cert? Can't be too difficult to do... Is the hotel available for two more nights? Is it a place you'd want to stay 7 (or even 6) nights?

It sounds like you took a risk and got caught. I know it's a thing the blogs talked about at one point, but we all knew for a long time that 5-nighters were for MVCI owners.
Had LCC flights booked which are non changeable. I know it was a risk. Just keeping others updated.

Rules change from time to time. The last call that was documented was in Dec 17. I called up 4 months later and was offered it when I asked.
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Old May 6, 2018, 10:01 pm
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for AS miles, how long it normally it would take to transfer?
i purchased 7 night package (AS miles) on April 30 but still no miles posted yet.
thanks in advance!
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Old May 6, 2018, 11:02 pm
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Are the category 1-5 travel package certificates converting to a category 1-5 certificate after August?
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Old May 6, 2018, 11:04 pm
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Recently took about 12 days - used to be faster. Interesting - when they post they show the date you made the transfer not the date they actually posted.
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Old May 7, 2018, 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by delusion
for AS miles, how long it normally it would take to transfer?
i purchased 7 night package (AS miles) on April 30 but still no miles posted yet.
thanks in advance!
Welcome to the club. I ordered the TP on April 29 and nothing so far. Sigh. Should have asked for expedited transfer (did not know about the option).

Please post here once you get the AS miles deposited and I shall do the same. Our Asian trip is missing the return flight due to this.
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Old May 7, 2018, 2:29 pm
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I asked about what TP package all of the Starwood Airlines would fall into. They said they were not sure but I will be in one of the 4 levels. I was hoping they would align everyone at 120k.
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Old May 7, 2018, 2:56 pm
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Upgrade of 7 night certificates

Hi,

Wondering if anyone has had any success with paying the differing in points to upgrade the 7-night Mariott category certificates to Ritz-Carlton tiers? I've called in a couple of times and have not had any success yet.

Best Regards,
Jin
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Old May 7, 2018, 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Jinhouk
Hi,

Wondering if anyone has had any success with paying the differing in points to upgrade the 7-night Mariott category certificates to Ritz-Carlton tiers? I've called in a couple of times and have not had any success yet.

Best Regards,
Jin
I have done so twice to stay at the London Edition. Both times the Edition was still a tier 1-3.
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Old May 7, 2018, 5:43 pm
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Originally Posted by delusion
for AS miles, how long it normally it would take to transfer?
i purchased 7 night package (AS miles) on April 30 but still no miles posted yet.
thanks in advance!
Originally Posted by theOtherHolmes


Welcome to the club. I ordered the TP on April 29 and nothing so far. Sigh. Should have asked for expedited transfer (did not know about the option).

Please post here once you get the AS miles deposited and I shall do the same. Our Asian trip is missing the return flight due to this.
Joining the club! Ordered mine (to AS) on May 5 and was hoping it would post by this Wednesday but looks that is wishful thinking. Hopefully the flights I am looking at don't get booked up.
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Old May 7, 2018, 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by travelbugging
Joining the club! Ordered mine (to AS) on May 5 and was hoping it would post by this Wednesday but looks that is wishful thinking. Hopefully the flights I am looking at don't get booked up.

Did you pay to get it expedited?
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Old May 7, 2018, 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by theOtherHolmes
Did you pay to get it expedited?
No, I forgot that was an option =(
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