Jul 30, 2016, 4:21 pm
Last edit by: Slickw
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
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If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2019)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
The codes for the new partial packages are:
New Cat 1-4: QP83
New Cat 5: QP91
New Cat 6: QP99
New Cat 7:
Originally Posted by Marriott Rewards Insider
Members who purchased a Category 6, Category 8 or Tier 1-3 certificate prior to 8/18 are able to request a one-time exchange for a Travel Package one category lower. This process will cancel your current Travel Package, reissue a Travel Package one category lower and result in a refund of 30,000 points to your account. To submit a request, follow these steps:
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
- Select “Packages - Deals” from the “Topic” drop down menu
- Submit your request
Source: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marr...es-update.html
The legacy certificates map to the new certificates as such:
Cat 1-5 => Cat 1-4
Cat 6 => Cat 1-4
Cat 7 => Cat 5
Cat 8 => Cat 5
Cat 9 => Cat 6
Tier 1-3 => Cat 6
Tier 4-5 => Cat 7
==================================================
If you are unsure where you will use your 7 night stay, when you request the package, just ask for a category 1-5 hotel. That way you are out of the least number of points. If later, you decide to book for a higher level category, then you can do so and pay the difference the travel package points. If you can't use your certificate within the year, then as close to the one year anniversary (without going over!) call to extend the certificate for one more year. That's as long as they will typically allow, one extension. There is an option to expedite the mileage delivery to within three business days (sometimes faster) for $15. There are reports that this fee may be waived for platinum members.
Effective April 1 2017 re: Southwest & the companion pass:
"Purchased points, points converted from hotel and car loyalty programs, and e-Rewards, e-Miles, Valued Opinions and Diners Club, points earned from Rapid Rewards program enrollment, tier bonuses, flight bonuses, and partner bonuses (excluding points bonuses earned on the Rapid Rewards Credit Cards from Chase) do not count toward Companion Pass."
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Can I book SPG properties with my Marriott Travel Package? As of 9/1/2018 apparently not. see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30155836-post6529.html
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Dec 14, 2016, 6:51 am
#1772
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Dec 14, 2016, 1:36 pm
#1775
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Dec 14, 2016, 3:11 pm
#1776
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
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That I *didn't* pick up on. I read it as fixed in Week 11 one year, and then some kind of floating Week 10 through 19 the other year. (All of which are pretty lousy weeks to go to the Ozarks if you want to be on the lake.)
Dec 14, 2016, 3:50 pm
#1777
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,467
Got it. I just figured there'd also be some kind of $199 "processing fee" for the trade or whatnot.
That I *didn't* pick up on. I read it as fixed in Week 11 one year, and then some kind of floating Week 10 through 19 the other year. (All of which are pretty lousy weeks to go to the Ozarks if you want to be on the lake.)
That I *didn't* pick up on. I read it as fixed in Week 11 one year, and then some kind of floating Week 10 through 19 the other year. (All of which are pretty lousy weeks to go to the Ozarks if you want to be on the lake.)
Dec 14, 2016, 5:45 pm
#1778
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: S Cal
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat, United Silver, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat
Posts: 1,142
Got it. I just figured there'd also be some kind of $199 "processing fee" for the trade or whatnot.
That I *didn't* pick up on. I read it as fixed in Week 11 one year, and then some kind of floating Week 10 through 19 the other year. (All of which are pretty lousy weeks to go to the Ozarks if you want to be on the lake.)
That I *didn't* pick up on. I read it as fixed in Week 11 one year, and then some kind of floating Week 10 through 19 the other year. (All of which are pretty lousy weeks to go to the Ozarks if you want to be on the lake.)
In addition to your annual maintenance fee, you would need to join a timeshare exchange company if you intend to trade a timeshare week rather than use the week yourself. So you'd have an annual fee for the exchange company. I don't have my notes in front of me, but figure in the range of $89 per year as a reasonable guess.
Next, you'd need to reserve your week. Let's say it's a week 10-19. Look at this page and click the link for "Travel Demand Index" on the right side of the page: https://www.intervalworld.com/web/cs?a=1503&resortCode=MHB&parentResortCode=MHB#.WFH hedIrL4Y
You see a chart. Notice the numbers at the very bottom (from 50 to 150). The TDI (Travel Demand Index) tells you how much demand there is for particular timeshare weeks. So you will notice that weeks 10-19 are on the mid-range side. The highest demand weeks in Branson are weeks 23-29. So weeks 10-19 are not the worst, but they are not the best. Your "trading power" (your ability to make a successful and desirable timeshare trade) correlates with the TDI.
So now you've reserved a week for trading (rather than your personal use), you have deposited it to your exchange company, and you make a trade. You will pay a trading fee, which is currently about $129 per trade if you are trading to a Marriott resort and $189 if trading to a non-Marriott. This fee unfortunately tends to rise every year or two (as does your annual maintenance fee, by the way). You also may have to pay an upgrade fee if you trade your 2BR unit for a 3BR or 4BR unit (if, for example, you have a really large family and want to invite everyone along).
So I'll admit that I own a Marriott timeshare. My wife and I have had some wonderful vacations using our timeshare (including Marriott travel packages, which is after all the subject of this thread). We sometimes stay in our home resort but we often trade. I also often will build major (3-4 week) international vacations that include one timeshare week. When trading, we often stay at Marriott timeshare properties because the units are generally high quality. But I admit that all these fees do add up, and my cost for fees has risen slowly and steadily since I bought the timeshare unit in 2004. I don't regret the purchase because it led me into the world of Marriott Reward points and from there I found my way to FlyerTalk. I have learned a lot from you people here on FT and we now take fabulous vacations for a very reasonable overall cost by using our travel reward points. But I confess that the timeshare fees, and the slow and steady rise in those fees, are a pain in the A.
Dec 15, 2016, 8:42 am
#1779
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cockeysville, MD
Programs: Marriott Rewards Lifetime Titanium, Amex Plat, Hertz Gold 5*, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 9,467
I know that there are other timeshare owners here (I recognize their screen names from TUG and I see their posts periodically), but let me give you some clues about how this game is played. Timesharing is a game, there is a learning curve, and it takes some time and effort to learn it and play it well. I think you make an investment when you buy a timeshare, and you want to maximize the value of that investment.
In addition to your annual maintenance fee, you would need to join a timeshare exchange company if you intend to trade a timeshare week rather than use the week yourself. So you'd have an annual fee for the exchange company. I don't have my notes in front of me, but figure in the range of $89 per year as a reasonable guess.
Next, you'd need to reserve your week. Let's say it's a week 10-19. Look at this page and click the link for "Travel Demand Index" on the right side of the page: https://www.intervalworld.com/web/cs?a=1503&resortCode=MHB&parentResortCode=MHB#.WFH hedIrL4Y
You see a chart. Notice the numbers at the very bottom (from 50 to 150). The TDI (Travel Demand Index) tells you how much demand there is for particular timeshare weeks. So you will notice that weeks 10-19 are on the mid-range side. The highest demand weeks in Branson are weeks 23-29. So weeks 10-19 are not the worst, but they are not the best. Your "trading power" (your ability to make a successful and desirable timeshare trade) correlates with the TDI.
So now you've reserved a week for trading (rather than your personal use), you have deposited it to your exchange company, and you make a trade. You will pay a trading fee, which is currently about $129 per trade if you are trading to a Marriott resort and $189 if trading to a non-Marriott. This fee unfortunately tends to rise every year or two (as does your annual maintenance fee, by the way). You also may have to pay an upgrade fee if you trade your 2BR unit for a 3BR or 4BR unit (if, for example, you have a really large family and want to invite everyone along).
So I'll admit that I own a Marriott timeshare. My wife and I have had some wonderful vacations using our timeshare (including Marriott travel packages, which is after all the subject of this thread). We sometimes stay in our home resort but we often trade. I also often will build major (3-4 week) international vacations that include one timeshare week. When trading, we often stay at Marriott timeshare properties because the units are generally high quality. But I admit that all these fees do add up, and my cost for fees has risen slowly and steadily since I bought the timeshare unit in 2004. I don't regret the purchase because it led me into the world of Marriott Reward points and from there I found my way to FlyerTalk. I have learned a lot from you people here on FT and we now take fabulous vacations for a very reasonable overall cost by using our travel reward points. But I confess that the timeshare fees, and the slow and steady rise in those fees, are a pain in the A.
In addition to your annual maintenance fee, you would need to join a timeshare exchange company if you intend to trade a timeshare week rather than use the week yourself. So you'd have an annual fee for the exchange company. I don't have my notes in front of me, but figure in the range of $89 per year as a reasonable guess.
Next, you'd need to reserve your week. Let's say it's a week 10-19. Look at this page and click the link for "Travel Demand Index" on the right side of the page: https://www.intervalworld.com/web/cs?a=1503&resortCode=MHB&parentResortCode=MHB#.WFH hedIrL4Y
You see a chart. Notice the numbers at the very bottom (from 50 to 150). The TDI (Travel Demand Index) tells you how much demand there is for particular timeshare weeks. So you will notice that weeks 10-19 are on the mid-range side. The highest demand weeks in Branson are weeks 23-29. So weeks 10-19 are not the worst, but they are not the best. Your "trading power" (your ability to make a successful and desirable timeshare trade) correlates with the TDI.
So now you've reserved a week for trading (rather than your personal use), you have deposited it to your exchange company, and you make a trade. You will pay a trading fee, which is currently about $129 per trade if you are trading to a Marriott resort and $189 if trading to a non-Marriott. This fee unfortunately tends to rise every year or two (as does your annual maintenance fee, by the way). You also may have to pay an upgrade fee if you trade your 2BR unit for a 3BR or 4BR unit (if, for example, you have a really large family and want to invite everyone along).
So I'll admit that I own a Marriott timeshare. My wife and I have had some wonderful vacations using our timeshare (including Marriott travel packages, which is after all the subject of this thread). We sometimes stay in our home resort but we often trade. I also often will build major (3-4 week) international vacations that include one timeshare week. When trading, we often stay at Marriott timeshare properties because the units are generally high quality. But I admit that all these fees do add up, and my cost for fees has risen slowly and steadily since I bought the timeshare unit in 2004. I don't regret the purchase because it led me into the world of Marriott Reward points and from there I found my way to FlyerTalk. I have learned a lot from you people here on FT and we now take fabulous vacations for a very reasonable overall cost by using our travel reward points. But I confess that the timeshare fees, and the slow and steady rise in those fees, are a pain in the A.
Dec 19, 2016, 8:33 am
#1780
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
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Dec 19, 2016, 10:46 am
#1781
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: SNA
Programs: M/R AMBASSADOR/LT/TIT/UASILVER/AAGOLD
Posts: 469
Did my travel package on Nov. 22 and have not received my bonus miles yet.
Dec 19, 2016, 12:17 pm
#1782
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: ORD
Programs: AA LT PLT 3.0 MM, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Plat, IHG Plat, Natl Exec Elite, Hertz 5 Star
Posts: 92
One more data point: 20K UNited bonus miles for 7-night Travel Package posted .
Dec 19, 2016, 7:51 pm
#1783
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 736
The miles for my travel package posted on 11/30/16 dated 11/29/16 and my 20k bonus has been received. Not sure if there is some other order they process in, but mine would be just about as late as you could be and still make it under the threshold.
Dec 20, 2016, 12:05 am
#1784
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hold it down for The Bay, reppin' Oakland
Programs: Lowly UA silver, Marriott Ambassador/Tit4Lyf, IHG Plat
Posts: 1,763
My Travel Package miles posted on 11/11, and I have not yet received the bonus.
Dec 20, 2016, 9:03 am
#1785
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: BOS
Posts: 1,461
My transfer wasn't until Nov 30, and I definitely registered for the promotion. In fact, I did so twice, as the fact that they don't email a confirmation bothered me. I haven't received the 20k.