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VickiSoCal Nov 9, 2011 2:47 pm

They only see the level so that they know how to recognize the member and since the recognition is the same for Plat and LT Plat why would a property need to know which someone was? My understanding is that they see X1 thru X4, for silver, gold, plat, and plat prem.

DillMan Nov 10, 2011 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by GeorgeBurdell (Post 17416918)
Tribal knowledge seems to indicate that you need 100 nights to be considered. Other factors are unknown but could include spend.

I got mine this year for the first time. I did 191 nights and almost all in either a Marriott or Renaissance property. Spend was somewhere around $27K or more. I'm also either close or I've already qualified for lifetime Platinum but I don't think that factors into it.

You'd think that if there was going to be a tip-top elite level, that MR would make it quantifiable. They might get more people who'd stick with Marriott instead of walking away after hitting 75 nights each year. DOH!

I'm fairly certain this post was referring to MR making the top elite level (PP) quantifiable. I don't think this poster was referring to LT Plat.

Counsellor Nov 12, 2011 10:16 am


Originally Posted by DillMan (Post 17427202)
I'm fairly certain this post was referring to MR making the top elite level (PP) quantifiable. I don't think this poster was referring to LT Plat.

Particularly since LT Plat is quantifiable.

Cantheplanegofaster? Nov 12, 2011 5:53 pm

My biggest grips is parking. Some hotels it's nothing but a hidden cost and not justified by location (example: Orlando)

I would like to see this as a Plat Premier Perk. The other perk that would be nice is a higher point bonus.

I stick with Marriott for two reasons:
1. Good product in Asia
2. Can use points for vacations.

rthib Nov 14, 2011 1:04 pm

Plat Premier - What is the Magic Night to get
 
Just past 125 nights last week.
Wondering if that is all it takes to get PP or if there is something else that triggers?
How long after you reach milestone does it take before Marriott lets you know something has changed?

davidash Nov 14, 2011 1:22 pm

That is the magic question. -- No one here knows the correct answer AND it changes each year. PP is the top 3% of all plats and it is made up of nights stayed and revenue generated to Marriott.

This question is asked each year and no one knows the answer.

It is rumored though, that once you become a PP and you stay atleast 75 nights next year, you reamin a PP -- but again, no one at Marriott has said this is true

The PP milestone is "awarded" during the middle of January after all the nights have registered.

moseslin Nov 14, 2011 4:10 pm

As davidash said, there is no magic formula. at least not publicly known.

Here's one of the previous threads on this topic...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...m-premier.html

GeorgeBurdell Nov 19, 2011 3:49 pm

One thing I do know if I'm checking into a hotel where I may not be known to the front desk staff is to flash my PP black membership card along with my CC. It sometimes helps get their attention so they realize that I'm not just one of the common MR elites.

calitequilasippergirl Dec 5, 2011 3:04 pm


Originally Posted by davidash (Post 17448748)
It is rumored though, that once you become a PP and you stay atleast 75 nights next year, you reamin a PP -- but again, no one at Marriott has said this is true

Unfortunately, I can attest this is NOT the case. I have been PP since 2007 and lost it last January with 100 nights. Hopefully I will get it back :)

LatinAmericaFlyer Dec 6, 2011 5:50 am

Splitting stays across multiple brands is the way to go. IC/Priority Club and Marriott for me.

minhaoxue Dec 6, 2011 5:55 am

My wife will hit platinum after her next stay next week. I agree with how elite members are treated better overseas compared to the US. We stayed at the Marriot in Shangahi Luwan last week and were treated very well. She got an automatic upgrade and we even met the GM of the Hotel and he thanked her for her business.

The exeuctive lounge was very nice. They would call you by your name upon entering and would serve you personally.

Contrast, stayed at the Marriot at SFO last month and it looked like a third world hotel. To say it looked tired would be an understatement.

DillMan Dec 6, 2011 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by minhaoxue (Post 17575119)

Contrast, stayed at the Marriot at SFO last month and it looked like a third world hotel. To say it looked tired would be an understatement.

What? You didn't like the 3.5hr walk to your room crossing 18 different styles of carpet? :D:D

As to the most recent bump to this thread I honestly think regular Plat (and certainly LT Plat) is more beneficial than PP at US hotels. Most hotels see/treat Plat and PP the exact same, so you don't gain anything. The occasional hotel hasn't trained their FD staff on the computer code for PP so you'll get the "are you elite?" or "thanks for being gold!" greeting.

So if you bump to PP expect, at best, the same service as Plat with the occasional embarrassing FD exchange when they don't under that you are Plat or >. Not exactly the most compelling sale.

Copilot23 Dec 6, 2011 8:01 pm


Originally Posted by DillMan (Post 17578339)
So if you bump to PP expect, at best, the same service as Plat with the occasional embarrassing FD exchange when they don't under that you are Plat or >. Not exactly the most compelling sale.

As a first time PP this entire year, after just achieving Lifetime Platinum in 2010, my sentiments exactly. In fact I've probably had fewer upgrades this year than last. :confused:

deac83 Dec 6, 2011 8:53 pm

BTW, not to be the bad guy, but the purpose of this thread what follows, not a discussion of what it takes to be PP or a general discussion of if the pr0gram is any good. The intent is to locate the properties that do treat the PP's well since it appears to be very property specific.

From the first post:

There is always discussion about the PP level and the 'benefits'. Some seem to chase this as if the hotel dropped rose petal as you walk in the door. Some properties are outstanding some seem to have no clue what PP is.

In order to maximize the benefits of the program the PP needs to know where to stay and where not to stay.

The basic information to post is:

Property:
Length of stay (repeat stays?):
Greeting:
Room upgrade:
Suite upgrade:
Special requests filled:
Other:

deac83 Dec 6, 2011 9:17 pm

PP is all about expectations from the pax perspective. The worst thing that happens is that 10% of the time a property treats you really well, recognizes you as a PP and gives you the best suite in the hotel.

That experience ruins PP for the other 90% of the time, when they don't he mention that you are PP.

And that is why the thread below was started to identify the 10%.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/marri...operty-16.html

All that being said, and I may be an original member since the first time I heard about this and suddenly I was PP, unfortunately you have to be more proactive with the 90%.

In the beginning the PP line would actually call hotels to 'encourage' them to UG you. And I'm not talking about calling domestic properties, they would call any hotel in the world for me. I think it was around 2008 when they stripped some of those powers away from the PP desk. In fact originally the point of the PP line was we had one number to call, whether it was for reservation or point problems or something else. Around 2008 they took that ability away from them and we had to talk to separate people for different issues.

I used to be, I'll check in and see if they do anything for me and not make a point of the lack of 'benefits' received. Unfortunately, I've found over the years that if you just sit back and take whatever the front desk clerk sends your way, you get the 90% experience. So, I'll ask them if they've given me an UG room (based on the TOS for Plat they are supposed to give you the best available room, of course there is not TOS for PP), if they say no then the fun begins. I'm always 'amazed' when they can find a and UG room or a suite when held to the fire. Why didn't they just give that to me in the first place.

FYI, when staying at the some hotel for 6 mos to a year, I've usually found a couple rooms I like and they hotel puts me in them 95% of the time. In the last 4 years while only traveling to 4-5 location for long periods of time, I've probably stayed in 10 different rooms in over 500 nights at those locations. Most of these properties did have to be 'trained' on what a PP was, but once trained they were fine.

FWIW, since I've become more proactive I feel I can move the 10% benefit to 60-70%, but I'd feel a lot better if they didn't need prompting.

All that being said, I will be testing the PP requirements this year. I've spent too much time working locally this year so I'm going to just top off at 75 nights this year, with 60 of those nights at rates of $80 or less.

If I keep my PP status, I would think it 'proves' that the metrics they use are certainly not current year dollars and stays, but involves some long term metrics as well.


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