Sep 11, 2014, 3:57 pm
Last edit by: FindAWay
Lifetime points are missing from the profile section of the website and show as 0 in the Marriott mobile app. However, you may be able to use the work-around referenced in this blog post to see your current Lifetime Points.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
http://www.marriott.com/marriott/rew...te-benefits.mi As of 20 May, this process does not work. There is no link called "Night Detail" on this page.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
You can still view your lifetime points online with the following steps:
- Go to www.marriott.com and login
- Go to https://www.marriott.com/rewards/rewards-program.mi
- Click "Nights"
If you call Marriott they can also tell you your lifetime points balance.
To check lifetime balances: (HT to txpenny)
1. Click "Night Detail".
2. Click "Learn More" (under the night total)
3. Click "Marriott Rewards Overview". At this point you're probably no longer logged in (because you've been thrown to an older version of the Marriott website), so log in again.
4. Click "Nights" under your current year's nights. -> The detail you're expecting showing LT nights and points will show up like before.
Lifetime Silver Elite:
250 qualified nights
1.2 million points
Lifetime Gold Elite
500 qualified nights
1.6 million points
Lifetime Platinum Elite
750 qualified nights
2.0 million points
To check your point and night balance, log into your account and click My Account > Account Overview > Nights.
"Elite Lifetime Status is determined by your total qualified nights stayed and points earned throughout the course of your membership – including your paid nights, Elite rollover nights, meeting nights and the nights and points earned on your Marriott Rewards Credit Card."
Points used by members to buyback their previously attained Elite level will be permanently deducted from their Lifetime point balance.
If an elite's point level drops below that required for the level attained, they will drop down to the next Lifetime level until points are accumulated to get them back to the next level.
Lifetime points in addition to nights now display on your Marriott Rewards account. When logged in, click on "Nights" (the blue link below the number representing your current year nights). You'll see the detail of what comprises your current year nights as well as your Lifetime Status nights.
Lifetime Marriott Rewards elite status (Pre-Merge 2018 and earlier)
Apr 18, 2018, 12:28 pm
#2911
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,413
Excuse me, but why would a Gold feel entitled to LTPP? Marriott LTGs are becoming LTPs. That seems better than what some of the lifetime folks from the SPG side are getting.
Apr 18, 2018, 1:23 pm
#2912
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Temecula, Ca.
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite, SPG Platinum
Posts: 273
My wife has well over a million starpoints in her account. When they make the change in August, will they count that as over the two million Marriott points to get her LTPP? I know you have to spend two million to get to LTPE but I wasn't sure how this will play out.
Apr 18, 2018, 1:40 pm
#2913
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: San Diego, CA/Boston, MA
Programs: United Lifetime Plat 2 million, Starwood Platinum, Alaska MVP Gold 75k
Posts: 143
So here is the deal:
I've been a lifetime Marriott gold for awhile gunning for lifetime Marriott Platinum. Just after Marriott announced the acquisition, I was given Starwood Platinum status because at that point I was a Marriott Platinum (not lifetime). So I stopped staying at Marriott and moved over to SPG; there was a Westin closer to my client. I made the assumption 2.5 years ago that I would eventually get lifetime Marriott Platinum since we are all one family. I guess we were not.....and I feel that is disingenuous of Marriott.
Doesn't this feel unfair that I if I had just stayed at the Marriott property I would now be LTPP??? By matching status and assuring everyone that our lifetime statuses would be recognized, Marriott shafted me and I am sure many others who "assumed" that SPG nights would count towards the highest lifetime status which is now LTPP and was previously Marriott Platinum.
I've been a lifetime Marriott gold for awhile gunning for lifetime Marriott Platinum. Just after Marriott announced the acquisition, I was given Starwood Platinum status because at that point I was a Marriott Platinum (not lifetime). So I stopped staying at Marriott and moved over to SPG; there was a Westin closer to my client. I made the assumption 2.5 years ago that I would eventually get lifetime Marriott Platinum since we are all one family. I guess we were not.....and I feel that is disingenuous of Marriott.
Doesn't this feel unfair that I if I had just stayed at the Marriott property I would now be LTPP??? By matching status and assuring everyone that our lifetime statuses would be recognized, Marriott shafted me and I am sure many others who "assumed" that SPG nights would count towards the highest lifetime status which is now LTPP and was previously Marriott Platinum.
Last edited by sfosyd; Apr 18, 2018 at 1:47 pm
Apr 18, 2018, 1:48 pm
#2914
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,574
If she's been Starwood all this time (and has essentially zero Marriott), then her lifetime status will be determined by total stay nights and total years at the 50-night levels in each program. She could potentially be LT Platinum in the new program.
Apr 18, 2018, 2:01 pm
#2915
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,574
Marriott LT Gold here.
I do not feel like we got shafted. I feel like we got a fair shake - the "essentials" of existing Gold are reflected in future Plat. Elite recognition extending to resorts, Courtyard, and a few other brands where they weren't before is a net win for all of us at the 50-night level and up.
If you're that close to existing LTP / future LTPP, then you still have 3 1/2 months to get there. I'm around 250k points short...contemplating making a run at it.
When the original merger was announced, I never would have expected any chance to grandfather into an LTPP status. So no, anticipation of that didn't affect how I selected Starwoods and Marriotts in the past 2 years.
I do not feel like we got shafted. I feel like we got a fair shake - the "essentials" of existing Gold are reflected in future Plat. Elite recognition extending to resorts, Courtyard, and a few other brands where they weren't before is a net win for all of us at the 50-night level and up.
If you're that close to existing LTP / future LTPP, then you still have 3 1/2 months to get there. I'm around 250k points short...contemplating making a run at it.
When the original merger was announced, I never would have expected any chance to grandfather into an LTPP status. So no, anticipation of that didn't affect how I selected Starwoods and Marriotts in the past 2 years.
Apr 18, 2018, 2:07 pm
#2916
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Temecula, Ca.
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite, SPG Platinum
Posts: 273
Not as I and most people here understand it.
If she's been Starwood all this time (and has essentially zero Marriott), then her lifetime status will be determined by total stay nights and total years at the 50-night levels in each program. She could potentially be LT Platinum in the new program.
If she's been Starwood all this time (and has essentially zero Marriott), then her lifetime status will be determined by total stay nights and total years at the 50-night levels in each program. She could potentially be LT Platinum in the new program.
Apr 18, 2018, 2:09 pm
#2917
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Temecula, Ca.
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite, SPG Platinum
Posts: 273
Has anyone heard if we will be able to transfer any number of points from one member to another when we live at the same address? With Starpoints we could. I'd heard that with Marriott you were limited to 50,000 a year unless it was for an award.
Apr 18, 2018, 2:14 pm
#2918
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Programs: AA LTG (EXP), Hilton Silver (Dia), Marriott LTP (PP), SPG LTG (P) > MPG LTPP
Posts: 11,329
No, as it stands right now her points will not be moved over until after they have determined who qualifies for LTPP, and the way the rules are now, only current MR LTPs will be moved to MPG LTPP. NOTHING you've done with SPG will help you make MPG LTPP, now or later (LTPPs will be made only once and never earned later). Now many of us hope they will rethink that decision and at least allow the SPG LTPs with mega nights to move over as LTPPs, but that's wishful thinking. You/your wife should contact SPG and let them know that there are some SPG members that have exceeded the MR requirements for MR LTP and that should be recognized.
Apr 18, 2018, 2:24 pm
#2919
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 52,574
A limit of 50,000 points per year may be transferred into or out of a member’s account. Members who are transferring points in order to satisfy a specific award may exceed the 50,000 limit up to the amount needed to satisfy the reservation.
Apr 18, 2018, 2:26 pm
#2920
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,413
I always viewed the status matching as a temporary courtesy during the transition period and I way for Marriott to welcome SPG elites and encourage them to try Marriott. It was always the case that SPG Plat was 25 stays or 50 nights, not the 75 nights required by Marriott and similarly for Gold. The tiers simply aren't equivalent.
Apr 18, 2018, 2:27 pm
#2921
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Temecula, Ca.
Programs: Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite, SPG Platinum
Posts: 273
Apr 18, 2018, 2:45 pm
#2922
Join Date: Sep 2005
Programs: SPG Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 168
I called the Marriott PLT desk one hour ago to respectfully advocate that SPG LTP either be grandfathered as the new LTPP, or offered an avenue to earn that status. The PLT agent said that they had received a number of similar calls, and that she believed there was new guidance from above, and asked me to wait on hold while she checked with Marriott Rewards supervisors. I will share exactly what I was told, and please ask that readers treat me as Sgt. Joe Friday, and know I am only sharing the facts as I received them, without any hyperbole added.
1. After checking with two separate MR supervisors and a hold time of nearly one hour, the PLT agent said she was told that SPG LTP will be grandfathered as LTPP. She said that it wouldn’t be right to not grandfather SPG LTP as LTPP when the other two LT groups (MR LTP and RC LTP) are
2. She looked specifically into my own account (with SPG LTP, only modest MR history), and assured me that I would be grandfathered into LTPP
3. She said that it’s important that SPG LTP link their status to their MR account, as this online match is apparently necessary in order to be eligible for the grandfathered status.
4. I asked if she could send me an email confirmation of this for my records. She said that she would be glad to. I have included that email below, and have redacted her personal information since she was very helpful, and I have no desire to get anyone in trouble.
This will be cross posted to both the SPG and MR FT appropriate threads. Wishing all well during these uncertain times!
“Mr. XXXXXXX,
First off, I would like to thank you for your patience today and the extreme long wait you had to endure.
Your question to me was: why under the Marriott account are the Platinum Lifetime elite members going to grand-fathered in as Platinum Lifetime Premier?
I spoke with a representative in Marriott Rewards and they explained that as of today, if a Marriott member and also SPG, and you have linked your accounts together that as of now, you are considered a Marriott Reward member, where as you will also be grand-fathered in Rewards as a Platinum Lifetime Premier.
I hope this helps.
XXXXXX XXXXXXXXX
XXXXX Platinum Desk
XXXXX###
[email protected]”
1. After checking with two separate MR supervisors and a hold time of nearly one hour, the PLT agent said she was told that SPG LTP will be grandfathered as LTPP. She said that it wouldn’t be right to not grandfather SPG LTP as LTPP when the other two LT groups (MR LTP and RC LTP) are
2. She looked specifically into my own account (with SPG LTP, only modest MR history), and assured me that I would be grandfathered into LTPP
3. She said that it’s important that SPG LTP link their status to their MR account, as this online match is apparently necessary in order to be eligible for the grandfathered status.
4. I asked if she could send me an email confirmation of this for my records. She said that she would be glad to. I have included that email below, and have redacted her personal information since she was very helpful, and I have no desire to get anyone in trouble.
This will be cross posted to both the SPG and MR FT appropriate threads. Wishing all well during these uncertain times!
“Mr. XXXXXXX,
First off, I would like to thank you for your patience today and the extreme long wait you had to endure.
Your question to me was: why under the Marriott account are the Platinum Lifetime elite members going to grand-fathered in as Platinum Lifetime Premier?
I spoke with a representative in Marriott Rewards and they explained that as of today, if a Marriott member and also SPG, and you have linked your accounts together that as of now, you are considered a Marriott Reward member, where as you will also be grand-fathered in Rewards as a Platinum Lifetime Premier.
I hope this helps.
XXXXXX XXXXXXXXX
XXXXX Platinum Desk
XXXXX###
[email protected]”
Last edited by jrothenb; Apr 18, 2018 at 2:51 pm
Apr 18, 2018, 3:23 pm
#2923
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Programs: Marriott LT Titanium, Hilton Diamond, DL DM & 2MM
Posts: 235
“Mr. XXXXXXX,
First off, I would like to thank you for your patience today and the extreme long wait you had to endure.
Your question to me was: why under the Marriott account are the Platinum Lifetime elite members going to grand-fathered in as Platinum Lifetime Premier?
I spoke with a representative in Marriott Rewards and they explained that as of today, if a Marriott member and also SPG, and you have linked your accounts together that as of now, you are considered a Marriott Reward member, where as you will also be grand-fathered in Rewards as a Platinum Lifetime Premier."
First off, I would like to thank you for your patience today and the extreme long wait you had to endure.
Your question to me was: why under the Marriott account are the Platinum Lifetime elite members going to grand-fathered in as Platinum Lifetime Premier?
I spoke with a representative in Marriott Rewards and they explained that as of today, if a Marriott member and also SPG, and you have linked your accounts together that as of now, you are considered a Marriott Reward member, where as you will also be grand-fathered in Rewards as a Platinum Lifetime Premier."
Interesting considering that during The Points Guy interview with David Flueck, SVP of Global Loyalty for Marriott International on Monday he stated specifically regarding The Points Guy being LT Plat on SPG he would receive LT Plat in the new program. URL for video here:
Fast forward to the 14 minute mark if you want to hear the specific exchange. I guess we'll find out when it happens worse case but hopefully Marriott will issue more details and guidance prior to then because the current chart clearly shows LT Plat on SPG get LT Plat on new program, not Plat Prem. Good thing you got it in writing but wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of redaction or apology when August comes and they issue you LT Plat only.
Apr 18, 2018, 4:12 pm
#2924
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: BWI, PHL, IAD
Programs: Marriott LT Titanium; Mileage Plus 1K, 1 MM; Global Entry
Posts: 1,516
Oops, sorry, you're correct. Read Starpoints and failed to link them to SPG. Was thinking of them coming from some other source.
Apr 18, 2018, 4:28 pm
#2925
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
Interesting considering that during The Points Guy interview with David Flueck, SVP of Global Loyalty for Marriott International on Monday he stated specifically regarding The Points Guy being LT Plat on SPG he would receive LT Plat in the new program. URL for video here: https://youtu.be/dWfgPgiWlqU
Fast forward to the 14 minute mark if you want to hear the specific exchange. I guess we'll find out when it happens worse case but hopefully Marriott will issue more details and guidance prior to then because the current chart clearly shows LT Plat on SPG get LT Plat on new program, not Plat Prem. Good thing you got it in writing but wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of redaction or apology when August comes and they issue you LT Plat only.
Fast forward to the 14 minute mark if you want to hear the specific exchange. I guess we'll find out when it happens worse case but hopefully Marriott will issue more details and guidance prior to then because the current chart clearly shows LT Plat on SPG get LT Plat on new program, not Plat Prem. Good thing you got it in writing but wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of redaction or apology when August comes and they issue you LT Plat only.