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cfabar1 Mar 21, 2020 3:13 pm

X-ON is exactly right. Right now they are keeping the prices high because of a few reasons:
1. Low interest but many fixed costs that still need to be paid being spread over fewer customers
2. You probably “really need to” be staying at a hotel right now. With so few things open and available, why would you travel right now unless out of necessity?

iluvdoco Mar 21, 2020 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by cfabar1 (Post 32216044)
X-ON is exactly right. Right now they are keeping the prices high because of a few reasons:
1. Low interest but many fixed costs that still need to be paid being spread over fewer customers
2. You probably “really need to” be staying at a hotel right now. With so few things open and available, why would you travel right now unless out of necessity?

I don't need to stay at a hotel, I was just curious how the pandemic was affecting Marriott pricing.

yorkboy24 Mar 21, 2020 8:34 pm


Originally Posted by ftrichard (Post 32214269)
Over the border they put you in designated transport driven by guys in hazmat suits behind sealed plastic barriers. But that may be overkill. I didn't know what to expect when I arrived and I was happy surprised that it was straightforward and the assumption was that I would be a responsible citizen. As everyone arriving at HKG is going into quarantine either at home or a hotel now, I imagine they take the view that there's little risk to the taxi driver as you're both wearing masks and you don't have symptoms at that point. Up to the taxi driver anyway if they want to do airport runs at this time.

Taxi drivers (and a bus driver) have actually come down with it. I think they are going to change the policy so that all foreigner arrivals will be tested first. You just missed that. I read in another thread that in China, you’re just put in a designated hotel. At least you could choose a Marriott one - the guy in the other thread has decided to fight for Marriott points even though it’s a government-designated one but just so happens to be a Marriott hotel. Madness! Anyway, it’s getting worse in HK due to all the HK residents (especially students) coming back from Europe etc.

uxb Mar 21, 2020 9:11 pm

I am completing a stay here at the Sheraton Vancouver Wall Centre. Business is way the f down for obvious reasons. On arrival, the lounge, gym, and pool were all closed. At the time, guests were given vouchers for the restaurant for breakfast and dinner. I never got these. I was just told my name would appear on a list for breakfast. Then, the BC gov't closed all restaurants. The property responded by closing their restaurant; making IRD the only way to receive meals on property. Ever try eating sunny side eggs in a takeaway container? It wasn't easy. I got my first and only night of comped dinner just a little bit ago, which is fine because I dined out in Vancouver for most of my visit. Eating steak out of a takeaway container with plastic flatware wasn't much easier. Despite these adjustments, the property seemed to handle things pretty well considering the times we now live in. Also, wanted to note that they had consolidated footprint as had the JW Marriott/Autograph that is located in Vancouver. The Sheraton may not remain open past this month. Employees are being told to prepare for unemployment. Not sure what the story is over at the JW.

Revelate Mar 21, 2020 9:45 pm


Originally Posted by cfabar1 (Post 32216044)
X-ON is exactly right. Right now they are keeping the prices high because of a few reasons:
1. Low interest but many fixed costs that still need to be paid being spread over fewer customers
2. You probably “really need to” be staying at a hotel right now. With so few things open and available, why would you travel right now unless out of necessity?

I was planning to move to Texas anyway once new construction finishes but who knows how that is going to turn out; my dad (now in Va) still has his empty house in Austin but not sure I can get someplace to sleep and someplace to work setup by the time I arrive there via driving across the desert if I do make it out next weekend.

I got back from a work trip 3/10, and have had zero social contact since, nearly the two week self isolation; fact is life has to go on and so I might as well get on with it assuming it doesn’t involve other people.

There could well be a stay somewhere both on the road (not sure I can still drive straight through like I did often 20 years ago) and on arrival in Austin since don’t really know the state of play and I don’t really feel the need to sleep on the floor when there is lodging available until I can arrange a futon or similar.

Will probably be back to self isolating anyway once I do get a place I can sleep, no real risk to anyone else even if I do catch the plague, why not go?

clarkef Mar 22, 2020 1:59 am

I've been randomly checking flights and hotels and the prices have not come down. It puzzled me until I realize that reducing pricing will not increase occupancy. Normally, reducing prices increases occupancy, but not in this case. For the most part, only those who must travel will travel, especially in states with shelter in place orders. And for those who don't need to travel, few will travel, even at fire sale prices.

Gringuito Mar 22, 2020 4:16 am


Originally Posted by rylan (Post 32212011)
So we know that Marriott is offering free cancelation/changes per their COVID statement on the website. I see advance purchase rates that state non refundable if canceled less than 1 day before arrival so thats fine... but I've still seen some that say non refundable if not canceled within 1 day of booking. Seems they missed a few of those rates?

same issue here. I am afraid to cancel this and not get any refund when it states "non refundable if not canceled within 1 day of booking"

derpydogs Mar 22, 2020 8:56 am

I haven't noticed a lot of discounts on pricing at Marriot Bonvoy properties. I've been hearing that most properties in Vancouver are at 5-10% capacity, but prices are at their seasonal norms? Would love to do a staycation, but I can't justify it unless we start seeing prices under $100.

LondonElite Mar 22, 2020 9:01 am

I wouldn't expect hotels to drop prices significantly. More to the point, do you really want to be in a hotel with lots of other people at the moment?

DenverBrian Mar 22, 2020 9:08 am


Originally Posted by derpydogs (Post 32218300)
I haven't noticed a lot of discounts on pricing at Marriot Bonvoy properties. I've been hearing that most properties in Vancouver are at 5-10% capacity, but prices are at their seasonal norms? Would love to do a staycation, but I can't justify it unless we start seeing prices under $100.

Have you really thought that through? If you go to a hotel on a staycation, how many people are you going to come into close contact with? Other than the room, what amenities will even be open at the hotel? Are you going to put housekeepers at risk if you have them clean your room? Do you know who the last guest was who was in your room, and how well (or poorly) the staff cleaned your room before you enter it? Are you just going to hunker in your room for x number of days? Where do you think you're going to venture out to if you are basing in that room?

hedoman Mar 22, 2020 10:15 am

I haven't been in a hotel providing housekeeping of existing guests for three weeks. Prices remain high, but have been able to negotiate at places where I am known. Not known, little success.
Marriott's three Vacation Clubs at South Lake Tahoe appear to have closed. Ouch!

ANN_G_ Mar 22, 2020 11:23 am

Arnes response
 
Arne + Bill Marriott are giving up pay for the rest of 2020

Executive Team @ Corporate are all taking a 50% pay cut
(WONT ALLOW ME TO POST LINK TO VIDEO:
twitter.com/i/status/1240639160148529160 )

[Moderator note : the same video is linked in this post, from 3 days ago[/url]

UA-NYC Mar 22, 2020 11:31 am

Factual correction - they are giving up their salary (which is probably ~5%, 10% max of total annual compensation). This is just table stakes for any C-Suite right now.

If and when they give up stock grants/options or re-distribute that to their broader base of hourly employees, I will be much more impressed.

TerryK Mar 22, 2020 11:38 am


Originally Posted by UA-NYC (Post 32218885)
Factual correction - they are giving up their salary (which is probably ~5%, 10% max of total annual compensation). This is just table stakes for any C-Suite right now.

If and when they give up stock grants/options or re-distribute that to their broader base of hourly employees, I will be much more impressed.

You are right on the money. :tu: 2018 figures show $13MM total compensation with $1.3MM cash component.

Keyser Mar 22, 2020 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by TerryK (Post 32218909)
You are right on the money. :tu: 2018 figures show $13MM total compensation with $1.3MM cash component.

the $1.3mm can help pay the salaries for 15-20 employees....maybe even more....

its not anywhere close to everything he gets in 2020 but its still something....


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