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Not sure if this has been asked, but do you think undergoing a mandatory 14-day quarantine in a bonvoy property would earn points and/or lifetime nights?
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Originally Posted by GUM_elite
(Post 32279341)
Not sure if this has been asked, but do you think undergoing a mandatory 14-day quarantine in a bonvoy property would earn points and/or lifetime nights?
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Originally Posted by GUM_elite
(Post 32279341)
Not sure if this has been asked, but do you think undergoing a mandatory 14-day quarantine in a bonvoy property would earn points and/or lifetime nights?
Upthread, you will read my post about undergoing mandatory 14-days quarantine at Ovolo Southside (a Design Hotel) in Hong Kong which absolutely got me points and 14 nights as normal as well as all the other benefits Ovolo gives its guests (breakfast, replenished mini bar daily, evening happy hour all left outside my door by unseen angels). I had planned it this way before I arrived in HK knowing that I would have to do 14 nights somewhere. I called a few Bonvoy hotels beforehand and they were all prepared for guests doing quarantine so I chose the one that would treat me the best which was Ovolo. You will also read of a furious, outraged, Bonvoy member who was billeted by the Chinese immigration officials (or whoever it is who manages mandatory quarantine in the mainland) to a Bonvoy brand hotel in... I think it was either Beijing or Shanghai... I cannot remember which... for a fixed daily fee and was explicitly told they didn't qualify for anything from Bonvoy. Their howls of indignation echoed around Asia and Flyertalk forums. In this scenario, the Chinese officials had taken over the hotel property and managed the quarantine guests charging them a fixed fee for room and board so the guest had no relationship with the hotel's actual management (you could view this as a third-party booking which would also accrue no points, nights or benefits but it was an even more distant relationship between guest and Bonvoy than that). I would expect this second scenario to be the case at the Sheraton Grand in Macau, for example, which is also being used by the officials as a quarantine facility. So, give more details about the specific scenario you are thinking about: the country, whether you make the reservation yourself in advance, whether you are billeted there by quarantine officials. |
I had a booking at a Marriott property where it appears that the hotel is either closed or has zeroed out their inventory for all of April and May. I booked it through a large well known OTA because they somehow had a really low prepaid rate that I couldn't find anywhere else. Fast forward to the COVID-19 crisis, and I'm still sitting on this reservation that I won't be able to use since the purpose of the stay was cancelled (cancelled event). OTA is unreachable, because of high call volume, and did not respond to my attempts to contact them on social media.
Today, Marriott sent me an email saying that my reservation was cancelled. Seeing as how the inventory has been zeroed out for all of April and May (my reservation was in May), it looks like Marriott (the property) initiated the cancellation, and not the OTA. (I reached out to Bonvoy on Twitter to ask who initiated the cancellation, and received two non-answers) Since I can't reach the OTA, do I dispute the charge at this point? |
Originally Posted by lucycan
(Post 32278718)
Similar questions / concerns here. I cancelled two pre-paid rooms about 3 weeks ago. The Twitter team said "min 90 days" for the refund.
FYI - same situation on Hilton rooms (where I have no status) and I had the money back in 5 days. Conversely, I had an LH ticket that had to be refunded as they cancelled the flights. This was 16 days ago, and still no credit on the card. Looking like YMMV among all vendors / industries. |
Originally Posted by lucycan
(Post 32278718)
Similar questions / concerns here. I cancelled two pre-paid rooms about 3 weeks ago. The Twitter team said "min 90 days" for the refund.
FYI - same situation on Hilton rooms (where I have no status) and I had the money back in 5 days. |
Originally Posted by uxb
(Post 32260824)
FWIW, I am pretty certain I will make TIT this year, so I am expecting Marriott to kiss my rear at some point.
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Originally Posted by diburning
(Post 32280919)
I had a booking at a Marriott property where it appears that the hotel is either closed or has zeroed out their inventory for all of April and May. I booked it through a large well known OTA because they somehow had a really low prepaid rate that I couldn't find anywhere else. Fast forward to the COVID-19 crisis, and I'm still sitting on this reservation that I won't be able to use since the purpose of the stay was cancelled (cancelled event). OTA is unreachable, because of high call volume, and did not respond to my attempts to contact them on social media.
Today, Marriott sent me an email saying that my reservation was cancelled. Seeing as how the inventory has been zeroed out for all of April and May (my reservation was in May), it looks like Marriott (the property) initiated the cancellation, and not the OTA. (I reached out to Bonvoy on Twitter to ask who initiated the cancellation, and received two non-answers) Since I can't reach the OTA, do I dispute the charge at this point? |
Originally Posted by hannadanna
(Post 32277753)
I have bookings with the Andaman in Langkawi, the W Kuala Lumpur and another Marriot Bonvoy hotel in Sydney. Just followed up with the Andaman to ask where my refund is - they said 2 weeks about 3 1/2 weeks ago....
Got an automatic response saying that the hotel is closed until 30 June. Am I supposed to wait until then for a refund?!? Seriously unimpressed. I wish the best for your situation, Hanna.
Originally Posted by sethMCOflyer
(Post 32278275)
Mine was a fraction of that but I've had a similar experience. The cancellation portion was no problem and the hotel even sent an email right after confirming. However they blame "bank procedures" for potential delays in the refund hitting my credit card.
I'm worried that many hotels don't have the cash on hand to process all of these refunds and will give similar stall messages on why the refund hasn't yet been posted. It's a lot easier for Marriott corporate to say they're going to allow refunds on advance purchase rates than it is for hotels to come up with the cash to process all of those refunds. |
Can someone help me understand the current cancellation policy for reservations made between now and April 30, 2020? Based on what I have read on Marriott's website, any new reservation, including prepaid ones, made can be cancelled up until 24 hours prior to arrival. Does the same apply to award reservations (using certs or points)? I did notice some fine prints excluding special events restrictions and peak demands weeks. How are "peak demands" determined? TIA.
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[QUOTE=LAX;32290536]Can someone help me understand the current cancellation policy for reservations made between now and April 30, 2020? Based on what I have read on Marriott's website, any new reservation, including prepaid ones, made can be cancelled up until 24 hours prior to arrival. Does the same apply to award reservations (using certs or points)?
Yes. I did notice some fine prints excluding special events restrictions and peak demands weeks. How are "peak demands" determined? TIA. Best Regards, Christina Z Specialist, Social Media Marriott International |
Originally Posted by Marriott Bonvoy Lurker II
(Post 32291029)
Yes. Please refer to the property’s Rate Details for applicable terms or exceptions, if any, when booking or changing reservations. You may also call customer support to check if your reservation is booked at a Special Event or Peak Demand Rate. Best Regards, Christina Z Specialist, Social Media Marriott International LAX |
Is Marriott Actually Waiving Change and Cancellation Fees for COVID-19?
Marriott is waiving change and cancellation fees for existing and new reservations up to 06/30/2020. Yet, it appears Marriott has included a blanket exclusion which allows any property to deny a change or cancellation without penalty if not permitted by the Rate Details:
Some exclusions may apply. May exclude periods with special event restrictions or peak demand weeks. Please refer to the property’s Rate Details for applicable terms or exceptions, if any, when booking or changing reservations. For existing reservations, a property could deny a change or cancellation without penalty if the Rate Details are not updated to reflect this Cancellation Policy. There is already one report on this forum of a property in Greece using the blanket exclusion to deny a cancellation without penalty. For new reservations, there are properties which offer no prepaid rates or prepaid rates with Rate Details updated to reflect this Cancellation Policy. There are also properties which continue to offer prepaid rates with Rate Details to permit cancellation without penalty only up to 24 hours after booking. While I am aware I can book a flexible rate, there is no blanket exclusion found in the COVID-19 Cancellation Policy for Hilton, Hyatt, or Wyndham for existing or new reservations. This is not to criticize, as my sincere thoughts and condolences are with everyone affected by COVID-19 including employees and franchisees. This is to warn, as I would not expect a change or cancellation without penalty with Marriott outside of the Rate Details. |
Originally Posted by jaloola
(Post 32302255)
Marriott is waiving change and cancellation fees for existing and new reservations up to 06/30/2020. Yet, it appears Marriott has included a blanket exclusion which allows any property to deny a change or cancellation without penalty if not permitted by the Rate Details:
(emphasis added) For existing reservations, a property could deny a change or cancellation without penalty if the Rate Details are not updated to reflect this Cancellation Policy. There is already one report on this forum of a property in Greece using the blanket exclusion to deny a cancellation without penalty. For new reservations, there are properties which offer no prepaid rates or prepaid rates with Rate Details updated to reflect this Cancellation Policy. There are also properties which continue to offer prepaid rates with Rate Details to permit cancellation without penalty only up to 24 hours after booking. While I am aware I can book a flexible rate, there is no blanket exclusion found in the COVID-19 Cancellation Policy for Hilton, Hyatt, or Wyndham for existing or new reservations. This is not to criticize, as my sincere thoughts and condolences are with everyone affected by COVID-19 including employees and franchisees. This is to warn, as I would not expect a change or cancellation without penalty with Marriott outside of the Rate Details. I guess there is some benefit to booking prepaid rates that now have the 24 hour cancellation, but for the most part I've just seen properties with already short cancellation periods shorten them a little bit more to 24 hours. The best were some properties that have always had a 14 day cancellation policy in the past move down to 24 hours. I noticed this for some dates at the SR Punta Mita, SR Bal Harbour and some of the Ritz resorts. I called to specifically ask about ski resorts cancellation policies, noting that 45 to 60 days is not very helpful if there is a flare up of the virus next Winter, and was told that I should look at whatever the rate details say. I think Marriott has been pretty fair, but the flexible cancellation policy for future reservations is not an area where they deserve much credit. |
It's also worth noting that Marriott hotels are seemingly able to charge your card in advance, then take as long as they like to refund you...
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