The 2016 Shutdown Thread
#16
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 3,688
just fyi, closing the account yourself does not mean it will lessen the impact on your ability to open new bank accounts later. The bank will still report even if you close the account anytime soon. Once you get hit with derogatory reports on Chexsystem, you may not be able to open new bank accounts. I know personally of one who got this negative report and the bank wouldn't budge to remove the report they filed on her. It hurt her ability to open new bank accounts to get the bonuses.
#17
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 30,343
Have a new wf checking and CB card. Been hittin gcard hard with just fraud issues. Just had an 8k check show up as NSF into WF from TD bank. It did clear TD that day and im trying to fight it (will get letter from TD, hopefully, saying I had the funds), but if they say no go and close the checking, is it pretty much guaranteed that they will close the CC? If so is that a negative on my CR? IF so I'll just shut it myself soon as i clear out my rewards.
IS there anyone on CC end who can give me an answer about closing it before they actually do close it? or am i screwed?
TIA
IS there anyone on CC end who can give me an answer about closing it before they actually do close it? or am i screwed?
TIA
#18
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 325
TD did send the money to WF. They show that the check was sent and cleared. the 2k one was just OD and paid.
I'm hoping since WF had the issue on the 8k, TD banker can say the 8k had sufficent funds.
Im more than happy to clarify more.
Last edited by noturbizniss; Jan 17, 2016 at 3:18 pm
#19
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 325
just fyi, closing the account yourself does not mean it will lessen the impact on your ability to open new bank accounts later. The bank will still report even if you close the account anytime soon. Once you get hit with derogatory reports on Chexsystem, you may not be able to open new bank accounts. I know personally of one who got this negative report and the bank wouldn't budge to remove the report they filed on her. It hurt her ability to open new bank accounts to get the bonuses.
Honestly the last checking account i opened was 3 or 4 years ago. I don't open them very often or go for the bonuses. I do more cc.
#20
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 827
Sure. it's actually kind of strange. The TD account is new so there are holds sometimes on my mo deposits. In this case, i deposited 8k in MO on 1/11 (which would bring my balance up to 16k) and paid myself to WF for 8K and 2k (2k on 1/10 and 8k on 1/11, so both would hit TD on 1/12). What ended up happening is the 8k MO cleared sometime during the day on 1/12, after the 2k and 8k were sent by WF.
That said, the only similar problem I have had was with one bank that, during their nightly processing, displays your full balance as available without removing any outstanding holds.
If one (such as myself) was unlucky enough to check the available balance at a certain time during the night, the bank will show full funds availability.
The bank knows of this issue, acknowledged it to me during phone calls, and allowed the check to go through anyways. The hold was set to come off the next day, and my account had twice the balance required to clear the check, it just wasn't available balance. (Even though I in good faith checked my available balance, just apparently at a time of day that the bank admits will provide the user with erroneous and misleading information)
#21
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 325
Sure. it's actually kind of strange. The TD account is new so there are holds sometimes on my mo deposits. In this case, i deposited 8k in MO on 1/11 (which would bring my balance up to 16k) and paid myself to WF for 8K and 2k (2k on 1/10 and 8k on 1/11, so both would hit TD on 1/12). What ended up happening is the 8k MO cleared sometime during the day on 1/12, after the 2k and 8k were sent by WF. Looking at the activity on my account theres no hint of the delay, so according to TD online there were sufficent funds. Additionly, and here's where I may squeak by, WF is claiming the 8k had NSF, however the letter in my account from TD shows the 8k was paid, and the 2k was NSF. That being said it does say "OD-Paid", so not sure how that might impact what I can get TD to put in the letter.
TD did send the money to WF. They show that the check was sent and cleared. the 2k one was just OD and paid.
I'm hoping since WF had the issue on the 8k, TD banker can say the 8k had sufficent funds.
Im more than happy to clarify more.
TD did send the money to WF. They show that the check was sent and cleared. the 2k one was just OD and paid.
I'm hoping since WF had the issue on the 8k, TD banker can say the 8k had sufficent funds.
Im more than happy to clarify more.
Went to TD branch today and banker reported that they never sent any NSF info to WF. the 8k check did clear, and while i did not have funds for the 2k, they paid it anyway since my average balance is usually enough to cover it, and they had another 8k in pending deposits. They did hit me with OD fees, but the check was NOT bounced, so he had no idea why WF was showing that.
#22
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 2
Multiple Chase accounts at risk?
If I have my own checking account, but I also have a joint checking - are both my accounts at risk if I start depositing money orders into my checking account?
I have an extra account that I don't care if I lose - but I can't lose my joint checking (wife will be PISSED!). Any DPs on what happens if you have multiple accounts?
Maybe it's worth it for me to open a BoA account and just deposit MOs there.
I have an extra account that I don't care if I lose - but I can't lose my joint checking (wife will be PISSED!). Any DPs on what happens if you have multiple accounts?
Maybe it's worth it for me to open a BoA account and just deposit MOs there.
#23



Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SAN
Programs: Delta Gold. Hilton Diamond. Hyatt Explorist.
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If I have my own checking account, but I also have a joint checking - are both my accounts at risk if I start depositing money orders into my checking account?
I have an extra account that I don't care if I lose - but I can't lose my joint checking (wife will be PISSED!). Any DPs on what happens if you have multiple accounts?
Maybe it's worth it for me to open a BoA account and just deposit MOs there.
I have an extra account that I don't care if I lose - but I can't lose my joint checking (wife will be PISSED!). Any DPs on what happens if you have multiple accounts?
Maybe it's worth it for me to open a BoA account and just deposit MOs there.
#24
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 2
When Chase shuts you down for depositing money orders, they close all of your accounts. I haven't seen data points regarding joint checking accounts, but I would not expect them to stay open either. I recommend only depositing MO at a bank at which you are willing to lose all of your accounts.
#25
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 164
That would be a faulty assumption. They will definitely take your money and there have even been a few reports lately of them adding insult to injury by contacting the local authorities to conduct a thorough investigation after they have taken your money. I would stay away.
#26
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 827
That would be a faulty assumption. They will definitely take your money and there have even been a few reports lately of them adding insult to injury by contacting the local authorities to conduct a thorough investigation after they have taken your money. I would stay away.
#27
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 164
You weren't aware, CWAL? It's called civil forfeiture. Basically, if a bank doesn't like your deposit patterns, they can use the Patriot Act to take your money and keep it for themselves. And, so, again I advise the original person posting to not deposit any money orders into BoA that he isn't willing to risk losing permanently.
#28
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 827
You weren't aware, CWAL? It's called civil forfeiture. Basically, if a bank doesn't like your deposit patterns, they can use the Patriot Act to take your money and keep it for themselves. And, so, again I advise the original person posting to not deposit any money orders into BoA that he isn't willing to risk losing permanently.
#29
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Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Madison, WI, USA
Posts: 14,167
You weren't aware, CWAL? It's called civil forfeiture. Basically, if a bank doesn't like your deposit patterns, they can use the Patriot Act to take your money and keep it for themselves. And, so, again I advise the original person posting to not deposit any money orders into BoA that he isn't willing to risk losing permanently.
#30
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: New Jersey
Programs: WN, AA, UA, DL, AC, CX, BA, AGR, IHG, HH, CC, UR, MR, TY
Posts: 121
If I have my own checking account, but I also have a joint checking - are both my accounts at risk if I start depositing money orders into my checking account?
I have an extra account that I don't care if I lose - but I can't lose my joint checking (wife will be PISSED!). Any DPs on what happens if you have multiple accounts?
Maybe it's worth it for me to open a BoA account and just deposit MOs there.
I have an extra account that I don't care if I lose - but I can't lose my joint checking (wife will be PISSED!). Any DPs on what happens if you have multiple accounts?
Maybe it's worth it for me to open a BoA account and just deposit MOs there.
I think that is why Lucky888 mentioned that BoA would be contacting the local authorities. Then again I have zero experience dealing with MOs and have a ton of learning to do in this space.

