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Old Jan 10, 2015, 9:20 pm
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Nov 24, 2015

Dear XXXXXXXXX,

We want to let you know that we are making a change to your Target Prepaid REDcard® by American Express, and you will no longer be able to add money from your debit card at Target stores. As always, you can continue to add money to your Prepaid REDcard by using:

• Your debit card online through your Account
• Cash at a Target Store
• Direct Deposit (You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard)


DEAD FOR DEBIT CARD LOADS EFFECTIVE 10/12/2015 - MEMO: http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.co...uests-can-use/


DEAD FOR CREDIT CARD LOADS. (Amex GCs Included)

Effective May 6, 2015 registers are hard-coded to not allow credit card reload. PIN-based debit cards are working, however YMMV. PIN-based debit cards may be refused by cashiers.


WHAT IS TARGET PREPAID REDCARD?
Prepaid Redcard is a reloadable American Express card. It is only available to purchase at select Target stores.

    WEBSITE:
    This site may error when in Firefox, especially with adding payees / bill pay. Customer service says to use Chrome or Internet Explorer.
    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    PREPAID REDCARD LOAD LIMITS
    Cash (or debit card) loading at Target: ** - $1,000/transaction, $2,500/day and $5,000/month
    Online Debit Card Load * - $200/day and $1,000/month
    Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
    Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
    ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month



    All "Monthly" limits are per calendar month and reset on the 1st of each month.
    Daily limits reset at midnight Eastern time, 9 PM Pacific time.

    *For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt.

    ATM Withdrawals:
    No-fee ATM usage at US Target stores* and U.S. Allpoint network ATMs. (ATM usage not available at any other ATMs.) Find an Allpoint ATM at: www.allpointnetwork.com Note that some ATMs only allow $400/transaction. There is a $750/day and $2,000/month limit to ATM withdrawals.

    RedCard is only available in specific Target stores and is not available in all states. Go to this site to find a list of available locations:https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    Q: Can I reload a RB at a Target that doesn't sell RB?
    Yes. However, the cashier may not know how to do it. You may be able to coach them through it by saying "It's like reloading a Starbucks (or Gift) card". For step-by-step instructions on one method of 'coaching' new cashiers see Post#1904

    Q: Can I buy or reload a RB in North Carolina?
    See post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...a-63.html#2520
    There is currently a software issue preventing any reload of any kind in NC. It is a known issue but there is no ETA on a fix.

    Q: Can I reload the RB at any register, or just at the Customer Service desk?
    It can be done at any register, however some cashiers are not trained on how to do this and you may have to go to Customer Service.

    Q: What is the most efficient way to drain a RedCard?
    Use BillPay to pay bills. For example, pay the credit card you used to load RedCard with. You can also withdraw money at ATMs.

    Q: I cant access the BillPay feature through the RB website!
    Verify that your account information correctly reflects a 10-digit phone number (including area code). Numerous people have reported that their account only had a 7-digit phone number (no area code) and that, after updating to a 10-digit phone number, BillPay miraculously started working.

    Q: Can we buy a temporary Redbird card while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    Yes.

    Q: How many Redbird cards can you purchase at once?
    You can only purchase one Redbird card a day per SSN. If you plan to purchase more than one, be sure to use a different SSN for each purchase to avoid activation issues.

    Q: Can we register our temporary Redbird online while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    No. You will have to cancel your Bluebird or Serve account first before registering.

    Q: How do I cancel my BlueBird or Serve Account online? Do I need to call them?
    Frequent Miler posted a useful trick that will help you cancel online How to cancel Bluebird online This works for both BlueBird and Serve.

    Q: Cancelled Bluebird, why does registering Redbird error out saying Bluebird is still active?
    If you have open transactions that have not been settled, like BillPay checks that have not yet been cashed, the account cannot settle and will not be truly closed. Thus Target will reject it until it's permanently closed.

    Q: Can we get Redbird online?
    No. The only way to get Redbird is to find a participating Target store and buy a temporary card there. Some people have purchased RB on Ebay, Amazon, or through private deals. Be aware that doing so may violate the TOS of one or more of these services. Also be aware that buying an un-activated RB, you are potentially buying "stolen" merchandise; the seller *may* have simply taken the un-activated RB cards from a target store without permission. At best they got permission from a low-level employee; they certainly are not getting permission from someone authorized to allow sale of RB outside of the current Target-authorized roll out markets. It is highly recommended to only buy already activated Redbirds because many Targets which do not offer Redbirds also will not be able to activate them and you will spend a month with the Customer Service line trying to get a new one.

    Q: Does the initial load you put in when purchasing the Redbird count against the monthly limit?
    No. After registering the Redbird online, any loads done will count against your monthly limit, even on your temp card.

    Q: Can we load Redbird with Target gift cards at Target?NO.
    When loading, the register displays a large message saying that gift cards cannot be used to pay for this transaction.

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    [B]As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per debit card payment. End of story.

    Q: What credit cards can I use to reload RedCard in Target stores?
    NONE. As of May 6, 2015, credit cards cannot be used to reload.

    Q: Can I reload with a debit card?
    Yes, but only if the debit card can be authenticated with PIN-number. Signature-based debit that processes on the Visa/MasterCard/AmEx networks will NOT work.

    Q: Can I reload with a prepaid debit card or Vanilla Visa?
    Yes, but only if you have a PIN for that card.

    Q: How can I load 2 debit cards in one transaction? Example 2x$500.
    1. Swipe debit card on my terminal after total comes up $1000.
    2. PIN pad comes up. Enter 4 digit PIN.
    3. Do you want cash back? press NO
    4. Do you want full amount on this card? press NO <<<Note: I pressed YES and did not have a step 5. - PHLisa
    5. Cashier reads something on register, asks how much on this card. $500. They push something to continue.
    6. Swipe card #2. Enter PIN
    7. Repeat 3 to 5. Total: 0.00
    8. Receipt prints. Thank cashier. The end.
    (thanks to Mamibear)

    Q: Can someone else buy a Redbird card for you?
    Yes. When you buy a temp Redbird card at Target, you have to give them your drivers license info, your SSN (can be any set of numbers, does not need to be real), birthdate, and more. Then, you have to register the card online in order to get a permanent card. In the process of registering online, they ask for the birthday of the original buyer on the first screen, but you can put your own and it will still work. Either way, you can still change the details on the following screens. I did this for my wife. I bought the card at Target and used my own driver’s license, SSN, etc. But, when I got home, I registered the card to my wife. I can’t promise this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.

    Q: Can you reload Serve/Bluebird at Target?
    No.

    Q: How do I contact Target's support team to resolve an issue with my RedCard?
    Call Target's Prepaid Resolution Team, their direct telephone number is 800 438 6468 (open from 8AM to 430PM MST).

    Q: Can you have both Redbird and AFT cards?
    Yes.
    You can have both Redbird and AFT since they are independent products.

    Q: I got a "Pending" notice that the registration is being reviewed, what now?
    Add [email protected] to your address book, and check your spam folder for an email about it. You can also call in. They will need images or faxes of:
    • Social Security Documentation (must clearly show full 9 digit Social Security Number). Choose 1 of the following options:
    ◦ Social Security Card, OR
    ◦ A Medicare insurance card
    Plus...
    • Picture ID
    ◦ A valid driver's license card OR
    ◦ A valid state issued ID OR
    ◦ A valid United States Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card) OR
    ◦ A valid United States Passport (photo page only)


    Secure Document Upload
    Here's the link to upload secure documents to REDcard: https://secure.prepaidredcard.com/User/SecureFileUpload
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    Old Mar 17, 2015, 7:04 pm
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    I purchased $400 VGC at Target, but didn't get 5% back.
    How do they distinguish VGC purchases from regular purchases?
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    Old Mar 17, 2015, 7:24 pm
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    Originally Posted by groundhog
    I purchased $400 VGC at Target, but didn't get 5% back.
    How do they distinguish VGC purchases from regular purchases?
    Target's POS system can easily distinguish gift cards/prepaid cards from regular purchases. I am sure your receipt doesn't say $400 worth of milk
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    Old Mar 17, 2015, 7:53 pm
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    Target has a fairly smart point-of-sale system because they need to be able to identify what is a food item (and thus may not be taxable), what is WIC/EBT elegible, and what is FSA eligible.

    They do clearly state gift cards are NOT a part of the 5% discount.
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    Old Mar 17, 2015, 8:04 pm
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    Originally Posted by xSTRIKEx6864
    Target has a fairly smart point-of-sale system because they need to be able to identify what is a food item (and thus may not be taxable), what is WIC/EBT elegible, and what is FSA eligible.

    They do clearly state gift cards are NOT a part of the 5% discount.
    Unless that POS system is located in NC, just sayin'...
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    Old Mar 17, 2015, 9:21 pm
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    Originally Posted by xSTRIKEx6864
    Target has a fairly smart point-of-sale system because they need to be able to identify what is a food item (and thus may not be taxable), what is WIC/EBT elegible, and what is FSA eligible.

    They do clearly state gift cards are NOT a part of the 5% discount.
    What if buy $400 VGC + a bottle of milk?
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    Old Mar 17, 2015, 10:13 pm
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    Originally Posted by groundhog
    What if buy $400 VGC + a bottle of milk?
    Can't tell if a serious question or a joke from the comment about $400 worth of milk....so..... There are several areas that don't qualify for the 5% (pharmacy and gift cards come to mind). Just as their POS system can parse out which items get which tax rate and if the items you bought are applicable to the coupons you use, so too can it figure out which items are eligible for the 5% REDcard discount and which are not....you're not going to "fool" it by buying one item which is eligible for the discount....you'll just get the discount on that one item.
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    Old Mar 17, 2015, 10:13 pm
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    Originally Posted by groundhog
    What if buy $400 VGC + a bottle of milk?
    You get 5% off the bottle of milk and 0% off the VGC
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    Old Mar 17, 2015, 10:58 pm
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    Originally Posted by zsssd
    You get 5% off the bottle of milk and 0% off the VGC
    So the next question is: how do you liquidate $5K worth a month of milk. Oh wait, it already....
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    Old Mar 17, 2015, 11:01 pm
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    Originally Posted by BillyFlyer
    One of the Target's I went to today now has a store policy of $1000 per card per day. The register didn't stop the second load, but they kept checking with their manager who would only allow $1000 per card per day. Seems like they had a staff meeting about it. Has anyone experienced this at other Targets?
    Store location? City and State please?
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 12:04 am
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    Can I use my wife's redbird account to billpay my credit card? Or does it have to be in the same name?
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 2:32 am
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    Originally Posted by Pryde987
    ...how the FW people sperg out whenever some retail manager has the sense to realize that his store is being gamed and deny whatever the customer is demanding...
    CC loading hasn't been outlawed and there is no written policy and nothing in the T&C which says a CC can't be used to load RB. So when a rogue retail manager (who probably isn't even making $50k) tries to tell us that we can't do what we've already done 100x before, yes we will correct him. If a business manager can't handle constructive criticism, they need to find a new line of work.
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 2:33 am
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    Originally Posted by acefspadez
    Can I use my wife's redbird account to billpay my credit card?
    Y
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 4:44 am
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    Originally Posted by TMM1982
    CC loading hasn't been outlawed and there is no written policy and nothing in the T&C which says a CC can't be used to load RB. So when a rogue retail manager (who probably isn't even making $50k) tries to tell us that we can't do what we've already done 100x before, yes we will correct him. If a business manager can't handle constructive criticism, they need to find a new line of work.
    I'm not in retail and don't pretend that I know what the average store manager earns, but I've always had the impression that a store manager earns more than the amount you cited.
    From Glassdoor: http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Targ...4_D_KO7,20.htm
    Indicates total compensation of $118K, which is what I'd expect for a job where he probably works more than 60 hours a week.
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 5:18 am
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    Originally Posted by TMM1982
    CC loading hasn't been outlawed and there is no written policy and nothing in the T&C which says a CC can't be used to load RB. So when a rogue retail manager (who probably isn't even making $50k) tries to tell us that we can't do what we've already done 100x before, yes we will correct him. If a business manager can't handle constructive criticism, they need to find a new line of work.

    You define people by how much money they make? Nice touch.
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 5:38 am
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    Originally Posted by diogenes2011
    You define people by how much money they make? Nice touch.
    I don't define people by how much they make. I define the level of business acumen a person has by how much they make.
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