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Dear XXXXXXXXX,

We want to let you know that we are making a change to your Target Prepaid REDcard® by American Express, and you will no longer be able to add money from your debit card at Target stores. As always, you can continue to add money to your Prepaid REDcard by using:

• Your debit card online through your Account
• Cash at a Target Store
• Direct Deposit (You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard)


DEAD FOR DEBIT CARD LOADS EFFECTIVE 10/12/2015 - MEMO: http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.co...uests-can-use/


DEAD FOR CREDIT CARD LOADS. (Amex GCs Included)

Effective May 6, 2015 registers are hard-coded to not allow credit card reload. PIN-based debit cards are working, however YMMV. PIN-based debit cards may be refused by cashiers.


WHAT IS TARGET PREPAID REDCARD?
Prepaid Redcard is a reloadable American Express card. It is only available to purchase at select Target stores.

    WEBSITE:
    This site may error when in Firefox, especially with adding payees / bill pay. Customer service says to use Chrome or Internet Explorer.
    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    PREPAID REDCARD LOAD LIMITS
    Cash (or debit card) loading at Target: ** - $1,000/transaction, $2,500/day and $5,000/month
    Online Debit Card Load * - $200/day and $1,000/month
    Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
    Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
    ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month



    All "Monthly" limits are per calendar month and reset on the 1st of each month.
    Daily limits reset at midnight Eastern time, 9 PM Pacific time.

    *For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt.

    ATM Withdrawals:
    No-fee ATM usage at US Target stores* and U.S. Allpoint network ATMs. (ATM usage not available at any other ATMs.) Find an Allpoint ATM at: www.allpointnetwork.com Note that some ATMs only allow $400/transaction. There is a $750/day and $2,000/month limit to ATM withdrawals.

    RedCard is only available in specific Target stores and is not available in all states. Go to this site to find a list of available locations:https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    Q: Can I reload a RB at a Target that doesn't sell RB?
    Yes. However, the cashier may not know how to do it. You may be able to coach them through it by saying "It's like reloading a Starbucks (or Gift) card". For step-by-step instructions on one method of 'coaching' new cashiers see Post#1904

    Q: Can I buy or reload a RB in North Carolina?
    See post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...a-63.html#2520
    There is currently a software issue preventing any reload of any kind in NC. It is a known issue but there is no ETA on a fix.

    Q: Can I reload the RB at any register, or just at the Customer Service desk?
    It can be done at any register, however some cashiers are not trained on how to do this and you may have to go to Customer Service.

    Q: What is the most efficient way to drain a RedCard?
    Use BillPay to pay bills. For example, pay the credit card you used to load RedCard with. You can also withdraw money at ATMs.

    Q: I cant access the BillPay feature through the RB website!
    Verify that your account information correctly reflects a 10-digit phone number (including area code). Numerous people have reported that their account only had a 7-digit phone number (no area code) and that, after updating to a 10-digit phone number, BillPay miraculously started working.

    Q: Can we buy a temporary Redbird card while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    Yes.

    Q: How many Redbird cards can you purchase at once?
    You can only purchase one Redbird card a day per SSN. If you plan to purchase more than one, be sure to use a different SSN for each purchase to avoid activation issues.

    Q: Can we register our temporary Redbird online while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    No. You will have to cancel your Bluebird or Serve account first before registering.

    Q: How do I cancel my BlueBird or Serve Account online? Do I need to call them?
    Frequent Miler posted a useful trick that will help you cancel online How to cancel Bluebird online This works for both BlueBird and Serve.

    Q: Cancelled Bluebird, why does registering Redbird error out saying Bluebird is still active?
    If you have open transactions that have not been settled, like BillPay checks that have not yet been cashed, the account cannot settle and will not be truly closed. Thus Target will reject it until it's permanently closed.

    Q: Can we get Redbird online?
    No. The only way to get Redbird is to find a participating Target store and buy a temporary card there. Some people have purchased RB on Ebay, Amazon, or through private deals. Be aware that doing so may violate the TOS of one or more of these services. Also be aware that buying an un-activated RB, you are potentially buying "stolen" merchandise; the seller *may* have simply taken the un-activated RB cards from a target store without permission. At best they got permission from a low-level employee; they certainly are not getting permission from someone authorized to allow sale of RB outside of the current Target-authorized roll out markets. It is highly recommended to only buy already activated Redbirds because many Targets which do not offer Redbirds also will not be able to activate them and you will spend a month with the Customer Service line trying to get a new one.

    Q: Does the initial load you put in when purchasing the Redbird count against the monthly limit?
    No. After registering the Redbird online, any loads done will count against your monthly limit, even on your temp card.

    Q: Can we load Redbird with Target gift cards at Target?NO.
    When loading, the register displays a large message saying that gift cards cannot be used to pay for this transaction.

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    [B]As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per debit card payment. End of story.

    Q: What credit cards can I use to reload RedCard in Target stores?
    NONE. As of May 6, 2015, credit cards cannot be used to reload.

    Q: Can I reload with a debit card?
    Yes, but only if the debit card can be authenticated with PIN-number. Signature-based debit that processes on the Visa/MasterCard/AmEx networks will NOT work.

    Q: Can I reload with a prepaid debit card or Vanilla Visa?
    Yes, but only if you have a PIN for that card.

    Q: How can I load 2 debit cards in one transaction? Example 2x$500.
    1. Swipe debit card on my terminal after total comes up $1000.
    2. PIN pad comes up. Enter 4 digit PIN.
    3. Do you want cash back? press NO
    4. Do you want full amount on this card? press NO <<<Note: I pressed YES and did not have a step 5. - PHLisa
    5. Cashier reads something on register, asks how much on this card. $500. They push something to continue.
    6. Swipe card #2. Enter PIN
    7. Repeat 3 to 5. Total: 0.00
    8. Receipt prints. Thank cashier. The end.
    (thanks to Mamibear)

    Q: Can someone else buy a Redbird card for you?
    Yes. When you buy a temp Redbird card at Target, you have to give them your drivers license info, your SSN (can be any set of numbers, does not need to be real), birthdate, and more. Then, you have to register the card online in order to get a permanent card. In the process of registering online, they ask for the birthday of the original buyer on the first screen, but you can put your own and it will still work. Either way, you can still change the details on the following screens. I did this for my wife. I bought the card at Target and used my own driver’s license, SSN, etc. But, when I got home, I registered the card to my wife. I can’t promise this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.

    Q: Can you reload Serve/Bluebird at Target?
    No.

    Q: How do I contact Target's support team to resolve an issue with my RedCard?
    Call Target's Prepaid Resolution Team, their direct telephone number is 800 438 6468 (open from 8AM to 430PM MST).

    Q: Can you have both Redbird and AFT cards?
    Yes.
    You can have both Redbird and AFT since they are independent products.

    Q: I got a "Pending" notice that the registration is being reviewed, what now?
    Add [email protected] to your address book, and check your spam folder for an email about it. You can also call in. They will need images or faxes of:
    • Social Security Documentation (must clearly show full 9 digit Social Security Number). Choose 1 of the following options:
    ◦ Social Security Card, OR
    ◦ A Medicare insurance card
    Plus...
    • Picture ID
    ◦ A valid driver's license card OR
    ◦ A valid state issued ID OR
    ◦ A valid United States Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card) OR
    ◦ A valid United States Passport (photo page only)


    Secure Document Upload
    Here's the link to upload secure documents to REDcard: https://secure.prepaidredcard.com/User/SecureFileUpload
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 6:51 am
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    Originally Posted by groundhog
    What if buy $400 VGC + a bottle of milk?
    The system will apply 5% discount to the milk, but not the VGC.
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 7:26 am
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    Originally Posted by TMM1982
    CC loading hasn't been outlawed and there is no written policy and nothing in the T&C which says a CC can't be used to load RB. So when a rogue retail manager (who probably isn't even making $50k) tries to tell us that we can't do what we've already done 100x before, yes we will correct him. If a business manager can't handle constructive criticism, they need to find a new line of work.
    Well, good luck with that . And while you're at it, why not elevate the issue to the highest levels of corporate management, and see whose side they take?
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 7:28 am
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    Originally Posted by iflyjetz
    I'm not in retail and don't pretend that I know what the average store manager earns, but I've always had the impression that a store manager earns more than the amount you cited.
    Sure. The store managers at Kohl's, for example, average about $140k. However, there's only one of them per store. If you're interacting with a manager on the sales floor, chances are it's someone at a lower level. I think that's what the previous poster was talking about.
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 7:29 am
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    US Bank Mortgage

    Anyone use the REDcard to pay a US bank Mortgage? if so how long does it take to get the check and have you had any problems or issues I should be aware of before getting this card? Also is it better to load the RB with a CC and then pay CC bill with RB and have mortgage come from checking like now? Or can I just send check to US Bank via RB?
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 7:52 am
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    So for those of you who ran into funds going AWOL for loading, did you:

    - Get told by the AmEx Support 3 times that you are not supposed to load with CC
    - continue to load with CC while AmEx works out where your money went
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 7:58 am
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    Originally Posted by tycat
    Anyone use the REDcard to pay a US bank Mortgage? if so how long does it take to get the check and have you had any problems or issues I should be aware of before getting this card? Also is it better to load the RB with a CC and then pay CC bill with RB and have mortgage come from checking like now? Or can I just send check to US Bank via RB?
    You will see lots of opinions on that, but many of us prefer using RB to pay CC , the others think this is too closed-loop and thus dangerous. But for something fairly critical like a mortgage payment, I would never use RB (or Serve or BB etc) just because there have been some reports of issues, and getting them fixed (due to the level of support) is likely to be much harder than dealing with your bank (and you are unlikely to have any issues there anyway)
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 8:15 am
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    Originally Posted by TMM1982
    I don't define people by how much they make. I define the level of business acumen a person has by how much they make.
    You're hilarious. Obviously you haven't spent much time in the business world or you haven't been paying much attention.
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 8:37 am
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    Originally Posted by diogenes2011
    You're hilarious. Obviously you haven't spent much time in the business world or you haven't been paying much attention.
    That's a very important point you are making. How about a dozen more posts on that to make sure you've completely covered the topic.
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 8:41 am
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    Originally Posted by Lumpylump76
    So for those of you who ran into funds going AWOL for loading, did you:

    - Get told by the AmEx Support 3 times that you are not supposed to load with CC
    - continue to load with CC while AmEx works out where your money went
    yes and yes, although I did leave enough room as to not surpass the $5k limit if they do credit my account. Still waiting on the credit, I will probably do a chargeback this week.
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 9:05 am
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    Originally Posted by xSTRIKEx6864
    Target has a fairly smart point-of-sale system because they need to be able to identify what is a food item (and thus may not be taxable), what is WIC/EBT elegible, and what is FSA eligible.

    They do clearly state gift cards are NOT a part of the 5% discount.
    Just a DP, I've received 5% off Starbucks GCs twice - once online (e-gift card) and once in store
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 9:31 am
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    Originally Posted by amazingjames
    I'm still waiting on my credit from 3/6 as well, though I'm still within the 10 days I was told.

    I don't recall this being previously posted here, If it was I apologize for repeating it, but I noticed the following language at the bottom of my monthly statement that may help give an idea on expected timelines for this. Looks like the 45 days should potentially be expected, however, it appears that if they go this route then you should get use of the money in question within (another?) 10 business days until the investigation is complete.

    "If you tell us orally, we may require that you send us your complaint or question in writing within ten (10) business days. We will investigate and determine whether an error occurred within ten (10) business days after we hear from you and will correct any error promptly. If we need more time, however, we may take up to 45 days to investigate your complaint or question. If we decide to do this, we will credit your account within ten (10) business days for the amount you think is in error, so that you will have the use of the money during the time it takes us to complete our investigation. If we ask you to put your complaint or question in writing and we do not receive it within ten(10) business days, we may not credit your account. For errors involving new accounts, point-of-sale, or foreign-initiated transactions, we may take up to ninety (90) days to investigate your complaint of question. For new accounts, we may take up to twenty (20) business days to credit your account for the amount your think is in error. We will tell you the results within three (3) business days after completing our investigation. If we decide that there was no error, we will send you a written explanation. You may ask for copies of the documents that we used in our investigation."
    Interesting, I looked at my statement and it also says this. I just called them again to check on the status, and of course they are saying again that it may take up to 45 days. I read a supervisor this language on my statement and she said that she notated my account about this temporary credit and sent the information to the dispute team. Before saying goodbye, she also proceeded to tell me that "credit card loads are no longer allowed--only debit cards or cash." Somehow I doubt that's true, but I just said "okay thanks!"
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 9:38 am
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    Originally Posted by TMM1982
    CC loading hasn't been outlawed and there is no written policy and nothing in the T&C which says a CC can't be used to load RB. So when a rogue retail manager (who probably isn't even making $50k) tries to tell us that we can't do what we've already done 100x before, yes we will correct him. If a business manager can't handle constructive criticism, they need to find a new line of work.
    Wow.

    If Mr. Bow Tie didn't kill Redbird, this guy will finish it off. Way to go, guy - you show that lowly store manager who's the business acumen master.
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 9:54 am
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    Originally Posted by zs58
    Wow.

    If Mr. Bow Tie didn't kill Redbird, this guy will finish it off. Way to go, guy - you show that lowly store manager who's the business acumen master.
    Yes indeed, the OP's comments to a single department supervisor at Target will singlehandedly kill off a program that AMEX has invested years of planning, and millions of dollars of infrastructure and marketing spending, to start up.

    Not that I encourage abuse of Target employees. I always find that being cordial makes things work better, at least in the long run. But kill off the nationwide program? Nope....
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 10:02 am
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    Originally Posted by FreakingFlyer
    Above poster already said it isn't an issue, but I'm wondering why you specifically thought it might be a problem with Bancorp?
    Misread the wiki . It says no good for online loads . Sorry
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    Old Mar 18, 2015, 10:16 am
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    Originally Posted by Brugge
    Yes indeed, the OP's comments to a single department supervisor at Target will singlehandedly kill off a program that AMEX has invested years of planning, and millions of dollars of infrastructure and marketing spending, to start up.

    Not that I encourage abuse of Target employees. I always find that being cordial makes things work better, at least in the long run. But kill off the nationwide program? Nope....
    Yes naturally he won't kill the entire product, but CC loading is probably in a bit of a gray area for TGT/AXP and enough people "correcting" low-salaried store managers could easily drive an eventual policy change regarding CC loads counting as cash.
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