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Old Jan 10, 2015, 9:20 pm
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Dear XXXXXXXXX,

We want to let you know that we are making a change to your Target Prepaid REDcard® by American Express, and you will no longer be able to add money from your debit card at Target stores. As always, you can continue to add money to your Prepaid REDcard by using:

• Your debit card online through your Account
• Cash at a Target Store
• Direct Deposit (You can automatically add all or part of your paycheck, government benefits and federal tax refunds to your Prepaid REDcard)


DEAD FOR DEBIT CARD LOADS EFFECTIVE 10/12/2015 - MEMO: http://frequentmiler.boardingarea.co...uests-can-use/


DEAD FOR CREDIT CARD LOADS. (Amex GCs Included)

Effective May 6, 2015 registers are hard-coded to not allow credit card reload. PIN-based debit cards are working, however YMMV. PIN-based debit cards may be refused by cashiers.


WHAT IS TARGET PREPAID REDCARD?
Prepaid Redcard is a reloadable American Express card. It is only available to purchase at select Target stores.

    WEBSITE:
    This site may error when in Firefox, especially with adding payees / bill pay. Customer service says to use Chrome or Internet Explorer.
    https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    PREPAID REDCARD LOAD LIMITS
    Cash (or debit card) loading at Target: ** - $1,000/transaction, $2,500/day and $5,000/month
    Online Debit Card Load * - $200/day and $1,000/month
    Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
    Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
    ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month



    All "Monthly" limits are per calendar month and reset on the 1st of each month.
    Daily limits reset at midnight Eastern time, 9 PM Pacific time.

    *For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. Your account will be flagged upon first/second attempt.

    ATM Withdrawals:
    No-fee ATM usage at US Target stores* and U.S. Allpoint network ATMs. (ATM usage not available at any other ATMs.) Find an Allpoint ATM at: www.allpointnetwork.com Note that some ATMs only allow $400/transaction. There is a $750/day and $2,000/month limit to ATM withdrawals.

    RedCard is only available in specific Target stores and is not available in all states. Go to this site to find a list of available locations:https://amex.serve.com/prepaidredcard

    FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
    Q: Can I reload a RB at a Target that doesn't sell RB?
    Yes. However, the cashier may not know how to do it. You may be able to coach them through it by saying "It's like reloading a Starbucks (or Gift) card". For step-by-step instructions on one method of 'coaching' new cashiers see Post#1904

    Q: Can I buy or reload a RB in North Carolina?
    See post here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...a-63.html#2520
    There is currently a software issue preventing any reload of any kind in NC. It is a known issue but there is no ETA on a fix.

    Q: Can I reload the RB at any register, or just at the Customer Service desk?
    It can be done at any register, however some cashiers are not trained on how to do this and you may have to go to Customer Service.

    Q: What is the most efficient way to drain a RedCard?
    Use BillPay to pay bills. For example, pay the credit card you used to load RedCard with. You can also withdraw money at ATMs.

    Q: I cant access the BillPay feature through the RB website!
    Verify that your account information correctly reflects a 10-digit phone number (including area code). Numerous people have reported that their account only had a 7-digit phone number (no area code) and that, after updating to a 10-digit phone number, BillPay miraculously started working.

    Q: Can we buy a temporary Redbird card while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    Yes.

    Q: How many Redbird cards can you purchase at once?
    You can only purchase one Redbird card a day per SSN. If you plan to purchase more than one, be sure to use a different SSN for each purchase to avoid activation issues.

    Q: Can we register our temporary Redbird online while we still have a Bluebird or Serve account?
    No. You will have to cancel your Bluebird or Serve account first before registering.

    Q: How do I cancel my BlueBird or Serve Account online? Do I need to call them?
    Frequent Miler posted a useful trick that will help you cancel online How to cancel Bluebird online This works for both BlueBird and Serve.

    Q: Cancelled Bluebird, why does registering Redbird error out saying Bluebird is still active?
    If you have open transactions that have not been settled, like BillPay checks that have not yet been cashed, the account cannot settle and will not be truly closed. Thus Target will reject it until it's permanently closed.

    Q: Can we get Redbird online?
    No. The only way to get Redbird is to find a participating Target store and buy a temporary card there. Some people have purchased RB on Ebay, Amazon, or through private deals. Be aware that doing so may violate the TOS of one or more of these services. Also be aware that buying an un-activated RB, you are potentially buying "stolen" merchandise; the seller *may* have simply taken the un-activated RB cards from a target store without permission. At best they got permission from a low-level employee; they certainly are not getting permission from someone authorized to allow sale of RB outside of the current Target-authorized roll out markets. It is highly recommended to only buy already activated Redbirds because many Targets which do not offer Redbirds also will not be able to activate them and you will spend a month with the Customer Service line trying to get a new one.

    Q: Does the initial load you put in when purchasing the Redbird count against the monthly limit?
    No. After registering the Redbird online, any loads done will count against your monthly limit, even on your temp card.

    Q: Can we load Redbird with Target gift cards at Target?NO.
    When loading, the register displays a large message saying that gift cards cannot be used to pay for this transaction.

    Q: What are the card’s load limits per transaction at Target?
    [B]As of 2/2/2015 there is a maximum $1,000 load per transaction. You can no longer load the same RB multiple times (multiple swipes) in 1 transaction. Likewise, you can no longer load multiple RBs (say your's and your spouse's) in 1 transaction. Maximum of 1 load, for $1,000 per debit card payment. End of story.

    Q: What credit cards can I use to reload RedCard in Target stores?
    NONE. As of May 6, 2015, credit cards cannot be used to reload.

    Q: Can I reload with a debit card?
    Yes, but only if the debit card can be authenticated with PIN-number. Signature-based debit that processes on the Visa/MasterCard/AmEx networks will NOT work.

    Q: Can I reload with a prepaid debit card or Vanilla Visa?
    Yes, but only if you have a PIN for that card.

    Q: How can I load 2 debit cards in one transaction? Example 2x$500.
    1. Swipe debit card on my terminal after total comes up $1000.
    2. PIN pad comes up. Enter 4 digit PIN.
    3. Do you want cash back? press NO
    4. Do you want full amount on this card? press NO <<<Note: I pressed YES and did not have a step 5. - PHLisa
    5. Cashier reads something on register, asks how much on this card. $500. They push something to continue.
    6. Swipe card #2. Enter PIN
    7. Repeat 3 to 5. Total: 0.00
    8. Receipt prints. Thank cashier. The end.
    (thanks to Mamibear)

    Q: Can someone else buy a Redbird card for you?
    Yes. When you buy a temp Redbird card at Target, you have to give them your drivers license info, your SSN (can be any set of numbers, does not need to be real), birthdate, and more. Then, you have to register the card online in order to get a permanent card. In the process of registering online, they ask for the birthday of the original buyer on the first screen, but you can put your own and it will still work. Either way, you can still change the details on the following screens. I did this for my wife. I bought the card at Target and used my own driver’s license, SSN, etc. But, when I got home, I registered the card to my wife. I can’t promise this will work for everyone, but it worked for me.

    Q: Can you reload Serve/Bluebird at Target?
    No.

    Q: How do I contact Target's support team to resolve an issue with my RedCard?
    Call Target's Prepaid Resolution Team, their direct telephone number is 800 438 6468 (open from 8AM to 430PM MST).

    Q: Can you have both Redbird and AFT cards?
    Yes.
    You can have both Redbird and AFT since they are independent products.

    Q: I got a "Pending" notice that the registration is being reviewed, what now?
    Add [email protected] to your address book, and check your spam folder for an email about it. You can also call in. They will need images or faxes of:
    • Social Security Documentation (must clearly show full 9 digit Social Security Number). Choose 1 of the following options:
    ◦ Social Security Card, OR
    ◦ A Medicare insurance card
    Plus...
    • Picture ID
    ◦ A valid driver's license card OR
    ◦ A valid state issued ID OR
    ◦ A valid United States Government ID Card (e.g. Green Card) OR
    ◦ A valid United States Passport (photo page only)


    Secure Document Upload
    Here's the link to upload secure documents to REDcard: https://secure.prepaidredcard.com/User/SecureFileUpload
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 7:37 am
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    Tried to load my new citi AAvantage platume on Thursday for 1k declined and I had to call, tried again and it was approved. Tried Friday and the same thing happened, this is starting to become a pain.

    Has anyone had any trouble with the ritz carlton card? I tried and got the same error as citi, called and they said there was no alert, I did not try again.
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 8:25 am
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    Originally Posted by kharlamov
    Is it really possible to withdraw funds from an ATM using a temporary card? If so, what's to prevent me from buying 20 cards, loading $1500 on each and withdrawing the money?
    Why not 200?
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 8:47 am
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    Originally Posted by JRV62
    The amount too small is from Target, it should show up anytime you try to load more than 1k per swipe from my experience. I'm surprised that you were able to do 1500 because it should have shown the same message unless you did a 1k plus 500 w/ 2 swipes.
    Just checked my Target receipt from yesterday's load to make sure I hadn't tried to do something stupid. But no, my receipt says $500, + $500, + $500= $1500. I thought she tried $1K, + $1k at first, and that resulted in amount too small. But maybe she actually tried $2K in one lump, which if true would explain it. I'll have to be very explicit today. Especially as this is the last day to do the remaining $2500 for this month on my 3rd card.
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 8:56 am
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    Originally Posted by JRV62
    One of the best ways is if she is a member of a credit union to try to get one of their cards, they are usually more likely to approve one with either a cash deposit or a very small CL. Obviously I don't know her situation for the bankruptcy but I am always hesitant to get someone involved who has had problems with their finances before. Otherwise she may just have to wait, but I do know people who have gotten from a credit union. Good luck.
    Originally Posted by RTWRide
    BaA seems to have some cards meant for "Build or Rebuild Credit". Check it out. But as has been said before, if her BK was due to her overspending (instead of a giant medical bill, for ex), it may not be wise to get her back in the cc world.
    Originally Posted by silver6054
    And BoA has some secured cards that can earn rewards. A good place for discussion is the rebuilding forum at the myfico.com forums
    Thanks to everyone who responded to my question. I'll check out all of those leads.

    And yes, it seems that BK was a real wake up call for her. She seems to be handling her credit responsibly now, or else we wouldn't even think of encouraging her to play this game. Nevertheless, I'll reinforce that caution when I give her any information about getting new ccs.

    My DW just added that in the 4 years since their BK, they managed to save up enough money to qualify to buy a $850K home. So they must be really doing things differently now.
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 9:20 am
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    Join Date: May 2014
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    anyone try to load in NC this week where it has been giving the refund error upon swipe? Havn't tried in a couple of weeks so thought i might make a trip over to the local store to try once more. Moving to VA this coming week so if not its ok...just would be awesome to load some today before the months out.
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 9:29 am
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    Originally Posted by picj0007
    Has anyone had any trouble with the ritz carlton card? I tried and got the same error as citi, called and they said there was no alert, I did not try again.
    I tried my Ritz card yesterday for $2500. I had just opened it and only put $400 on it in one prior purchase. Was declined for the $2500. Never got a text message so called in, took about 5 minutes and 15 questions to clear the alert and then went through.
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 10:36 am
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    Originally Posted by picj0007
    Tried to load my new citi AAvantage platume on Thursday for 1k declined and I had to call, tried again and it was approved. Tried Friday and the same thing happened, this is starting to become a pain.

    Has anyone had any trouble with the ritz carlton card? I tried and got the same error as citi, called and they said there was no alert, I did not try again.
    If new to Citi, give it some time deal with fraud alerts for now,and they will eventually disappear sooner than later
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 10:44 am
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    Originally Posted by Phanto
    I'm glad I'll be dealing with Citi for AA miles instead of Barclays for USair miles after the merger because Citi seems to care ONCE, after that no prob with alerts!


    Barclays algorithm can be "trained" as well
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 10:50 am
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    Join Date: May 2014
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    Originally Posted by air360
    anyone try to load in NC this week where it has been giving the refund error upon swipe? Havn't tried in a couple of weeks so thought i might make a trip over to the local store to try once more. Moving to VA this coming week so if not its ok...just would be awesome to load some today before the months out.
    Let me update my own post. Still a no go in eastern NC. It's a shame too..I think I'm the only one around here even trying. I've tried once a week or so over the past month and every time I go I get a different person who says they have never even seen or heard of it...so fairly certain I'm one of the only ones in the area...which would have made it a bit more lucrative..oh well.
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 10:55 am
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    Additional NC datapoints

    NC state bird may be a red bird, but Targets not cooperating:
    Target @ Burlington/Alamance Crossing/Elon: No luck ("incompatible software")
    Target @ Durham/South Square/near Duke: No luck ("incompatible software")
    Neither store had any idea as to when loading might be possible.
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 10:57 am
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    Any reason to be cautious about loading Red with Amex Charge Cards re: financial review? I have $10k to spend on my recently upgraded Biz Platinum for 30k MR points. Never MSd on any of my AMEX charge cards before because of the MRs people were receiving, starting with Mint, then VRs, etc.

    If I do, it would probably be 3 ~$2500-ish loads but in random amounts like $2478.31. And with other items.

    Did I hear a while back that from the merchant side, AMEX can sometimes see what is being purchased?
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 11:29 am
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    Originally Posted by tigerhunt2011
    Any reason to be cautious about loading Red with Amex Charge Cards re: financial review? I have $10k to spend on my recently upgraded Biz Platinum for 30k MR points. Never MSd on any of my AMEX charge cards before because of the MRs people were receiving, starting with Mint, then VRs, etc.

    If I do, it would probably be 3 ~$2500-ish loads but in random amounts like $2478.31. And with other items.

    Did I hear a while back that from the merchant side, AMEX can sometimes see what is being purchased?
    I got the same upgrade offer on the Plat that you got. My pro-rated fee was going to renew for $450 in March, and the MR take a month to post after the statement closes. So I had to do the entire $10K in 2 weeks in order to both get the points and cancel in time to avoid the full AF.

    I did $8K, in even $2000 RB loads to two different RBs, 2 separate $500 GC purchases at Safeway, and $1000 in regular spend in less than 2 weeks. Not a peep from AMEX, not even a FA. And I do have a history of MSing with the AMEX HH card at Safeway, several thousand $ a month, and they still targeted me for the Bus Plat. So I don't think you have anything to worry about. Just don't charge up to your CL, pay it off, then charge back to your CL, several times a month, and you should be fine.
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 11:40 am
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    Join Date: Oct 2014
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    Hello, I was trying to jump into getting a redcard at the target located in white plains but I was shocked that they want a blank check in order to buy one. Has this happened to anybody? Could this mean that the only way to load the redcard at this target is only by funding from your checking account?
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 11:41 am
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    Join Date: Jul 2012
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    Can one *reload* the temporary card, up to $500?

    When I bought my father's Redbird, I loaded with only $20 because I didn't know if I would hit the 30 day barrier between Blue and Red (and didn't want $500 hanging in the balance).

    Can I go back and load $480 before the perm card gets here?
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    Old Jan 31, 2015, 11:51 am
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    Join Date: Sep 2013
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    Originally Posted by coqboricua
    Hello, I was trying to jump into getting a redcard at the target located in white plains but I was shocked that they want a blank check in order to buy one. Has this happened to anybody? Could this mean that the only way to load the redcard at this target is only by funding from your checking account?
    Wrong REDcard. There are 3 different types, all with the same name, and looking identical, expect our RB says "prepaid" on it.

    The card they were trying to give you is a debit card, tied directly to your checking account, so that's why they wanted the check. You don't want that card.

    You have to ask for the "prepaid" card very specifically, since if the store doesn't have them yet, they can easily misunderstand what card you are asking for. As you found out....
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