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As of 6/19/2014, Walmart does not accept debit transactions above $49.99 from cards issued by Bancorp, namely Vanilla Visas (OV, VGC, etc.). Attempts result in "Alternate Tender Required," "Debit Not Available," and/or some other error message, at both registers and the Money Center Express (MCE, kiosk, Kate, ATM).
There is no workaround.
There is no workaround.
Problem loading Bluebird with Vanilla Visa GC
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My own view is that this is temporary. I'd be hesitant to edit the wiki at this point.
The snag in rationale for me is that the merchant contract Walmart signed with Visa has stipulations on Visa acceptance. They can choose whether to accept cash, credit or debit for a transaction but I don't believe they can choose to reject Visas issued by a particular bank. That's the whole point of the Visa association: universal acceptance. I expect this to be restored in a future POS system update.
In the meantime you may wish to file a complaint with Visa:
https://usa.visa.com/checkoutfees/contact.jsp
The snag in rationale for me is that the merchant contract Walmart signed with Visa has stipulations on Visa acceptance. They can choose whether to accept cash, credit or debit for a transaction but I don't believe they can choose to reject Visas issued by a particular bank. That's the whole point of the Visa association: universal acceptance. I expect this to be restored in a future POS system update.
In the meantime you may wish to file a complaint with Visa:
https://usa.visa.com/checkoutfees/contact.jsp
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They can choose whether to accept cash, credit or debit for a transaction but I don't believe they can choose to reject Visas issued by a particular bank. That's the whole point of the Visa association: universal acceptance. I expect this to be restored in a future POS system update.
In the meantime you may wish to file a complaint with Visa:
https://usa.visa.com/checkoutfees/contact.jsp
In the meantime you may wish to file a complaint with Visa:
https://usa.visa.com/checkoutfees/contact.jsp
Also, even if the threat DID work, Walmart would probably go cash only for these things
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My own view is that this is temporary. I'd be hesitant to edit the wiki at this point.
The snag in rationale for me is that the merchant contract Walmart signed with Visa has stipulations on Visa acceptance. They can choose whether to accept cash, credit or debit for a transaction but I don't believe they can choose to reject Visas issued by a particular bank. That's the whole point of the Visa association: universal acceptance. I expect this to be restored in a future POS system update.
In the meantime you may wish to file a complaint with Visa:
https://usa.visa.com/checkoutfees/contact.jsp
The snag in rationale for me is that the merchant contract Walmart signed with Visa has stipulations on Visa acceptance. They can choose whether to accept cash, credit or debit for a transaction but I don't believe they can choose to reject Visas issued by a particular bank. That's the whole point of the Visa association: universal acceptance. I expect this to be restored in a future POS system update.
In the meantime you may wish to file a complaint with Visa:
https://usa.visa.com/checkoutfees/contact.jsp
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And if Walmart says "No", Visa will cancel its contract with Walmart? This is like issuers telling you that a foreign multinational abroad MUST accept your US swipe card. If they don't, and you complain to Visa, nothing changes.
Also, even if the threat DID work, Walmart would probably go cash only for these things
Also, even if the threat DID work, Walmart would probably go cash only for these things
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A2Q2BJ20140327
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In the meantime you may wish to file a complaint with Visa:
https://usa.visa.com/checkoutfees/contact.jsp
The merchant added a checkout fee, or payment card surcharge, to your purchase for using your Visa Debit or Visa Prepaid card (NOTE: U.S. merchants are permitted to add a checkout fee to credit card transactions under certain conditions).
I was assessed a surcharge greater than 4% of my purchase.
The merchant added a checkout fee to your purchase for using your Visa Credit card without disclosing the surcharge at the store entry or point of sale, or without providing the final surcharge amount on the receipt.
The merchant required a minimum purchase amount on a Visa transaction that exceeded $10 (NOTE: U.S. merchants may require a minimum purchase amount on credit card transactions that does not exceed $10.)
The merchant required a minimum purchase amount on a Visa transaction that was made with a debit card.
The merchant displayed an improper Visa acceptance mark, did not display Visa signage or displayed Visa signage but refused to accept your Visa card.
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I agree it will eventually be corrected but thought the Bankcorp issue was only in their reloadable pre-paid products. Do you believe this is just sloppy programming attempting to segment those products?
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Nope reread the story. It isn't only reloadable cards. I doubt there was any programming changes at all on Walmarts part.
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Which of the following merchant violations do you believe are occuring here? (PS - keep in mind that when you use a prepaid Visa card, you agree to the T&C of the card. Have you ever read those?)
The merchant added a checkout fee, or payment card surcharge, to your purchase for using your Visa Debit or Visa Prepaid card (NOTE: U.S. merchants are permitted to add a checkout fee to credit card transactions under certain conditions).
I was assessed a surcharge greater than 4% of my purchase.
The merchant added a checkout fee to your purchase for using your Visa Credit card without disclosing the surcharge at the store entry or point of sale, or without providing the final surcharge amount on the receipt.
The merchant required a minimum purchase amount on a Visa transaction that exceeded $10 (NOTE: U.S. merchants may require a minimum purchase amount on credit card transactions that does not exceed $10.)
The merchant required a minimum purchase amount on a Visa transaction that was made with a debit card.
The merchant displayed an improper Visa acceptance mark, did not display Visa signage or displayed Visa signage but refused to accept your Visa card.
The merchant added a checkout fee, or payment card surcharge, to your purchase for using your Visa Debit or Visa Prepaid card (NOTE: U.S. merchants are permitted to add a checkout fee to credit card transactions under certain conditions).
I was assessed a surcharge greater than 4% of my purchase.
The merchant added a checkout fee to your purchase for using your Visa Credit card without disclosing the surcharge at the store entry or point of sale, or without providing the final surcharge amount on the receipt.
The merchant required a minimum purchase amount on a Visa transaction that exceeded $10 (NOTE: U.S. merchants may require a minimum purchase amount on credit card transactions that does not exceed $10.)
The merchant required a minimum purchase amount on a Visa transaction that was made with a debit card.
The merchant displayed an improper Visa acceptance mark, did not display Visa signage or displayed Visa signage but refused to accept your Visa card.
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Thanks. That's very interesting. I can google but a link would be much appreciated for the discussion.
http://www.pymnts.com/in-depth/2014/.../#.U6b81xZZJ0A
Not sure. Still reading this as reloadables.
“With respect to general purpose reloadable card activities, the bank shall not establish any new prepaid card program or issue any new prepaid card product, or establish any new distribution channel for existing prepaid card products,” the decree notes. The decree also places similar restrictions on the bank’s future credit card merchant-acquiring activities and the third parties it works with providing those services, including independent sales organizations.
I'm interested in other's thoughts.
http://www.pymnts.com/in-depth/2014/.../#.U6b81xZZJ0A
Not sure. Still reading this as reloadables.
“With respect to general purpose reloadable card activities, the bank shall not establish any new prepaid card program or issue any new prepaid card product, or establish any new distribution channel for existing prepaid card products,” the decree notes. The decree also places similar restrictions on the bank’s future credit card merchant-acquiring activities and the third parties it works with providing those services, including independent sales organizations.
I'm interested in other's thoughts.
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Thanks. That's very interesting. I can google but a link would be much appreciated for the discussion.
http://www.pymnts.com/in-depth/2014/.../#.U6b81xZZJ0A
Not sure. Still reading this as reloadables.
“With respect to general purpose reloadable card activities, the bank shall not establish any new prepaid card program or issue any new prepaid card product, or establish any new distribution channel for existing prepaid card products,” the decree notes. The decree also places similar restrictions on the bank’s future credit card merchant-acquiring activities and the third parties it works with providing those services, including independent sales organizations.
I'm interested in other's thoughts.
http://www.pymnts.com/in-depth/2014/.../#.U6b81xZZJ0A
Not sure. Still reading this as reloadables.
“With respect to general purpose reloadable card activities, the bank shall not establish any new prepaid card program or issue any new prepaid card product, or establish any new distribution channel for existing prepaid card products,” the decree notes. The decree also places similar restrictions on the bank’s future credit card merchant-acquiring activities and the third parties it works with providing those services, including independent sales organizations.
I'm interested in other's thoughts.
According to Bancorp's SEC filing, the FDIC has restricted the bank, until further notice, from issuing nonbenefit reloadable prepaid cards and from any automated clearing house transactions for merchant-related payments.