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As of 6/19/2014, Walmart does not accept debit transactions above $49.99 from cards issued by Bancorp, namely Vanilla Visas (OV, VGC, etc.). Attempts result in "Alternate Tender Required," "Debit Not Available," and/or some other error message, at both registers and the Money Center Express (MCE, kiosk, Kate, ATM).
There is no workaround.
There is no workaround.
Problem loading Bluebird with Vanilla Visa GC
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 126
Problem loading Bluebird with Vanilla Visa GC
Greetings all,
A few days ago I bought for the first time a variable Vanilla Visa GC at CVS and loaded it with $500. Today I took it to WM to load Bluebird and it failed several times saying something like "Transaction not authorized" or "could not be processed". On the card it says select any 4-digit PIN at first use, and I just entered a random 4-digit number when prompted for PIN. Is that how it's supposed to work? Or do I need to use it for a "real" purchase first to set the PIN?
I've previously loaded the same BB card at the same WM with $200 Visa GCs bought at Staples without any issues, but only after setting PIN online before each load. There doesn't seem to be a way to set PIN at www.vanillavisa.com
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
A few days ago I bought for the first time a variable Vanilla Visa GC at CVS and loaded it with $500. Today I took it to WM to load Bluebird and it failed several times saying something like "Transaction not authorized" or "could not be processed". On the card it says select any 4-digit PIN at first use, and I just entered a random 4-digit number when prompted for PIN. Is that how it's supposed to work? Or do I need to use it for a "real" purchase first to set the PIN?
I've previously loaded the same BB card at the same WM with $200 Visa GCs bought at Staples without any issues, but only after setting PIN online before each load. There doesn't seem to be a way to set PIN at www.vanillavisa.com
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
#2
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: The Empire State
Programs: CO (RIP), US (RIP), Amtrak. Lots of CC programs.
Posts: 442
The last time this happened I was buying a MO for $999.30. The cashier was mistakenly asking for the full $1k from the GC, getting an "Error 51." When she debited $500 at a time the cards worked fine.
#3
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: All of them!
Posts: 322
Greetings all,
A few days ago I bought for the first time a variable Vanilla Visa GC at CVS and loaded it with $500. Today I took it to WM to load Bluebird and it failed several times saying something like "Transaction not authorized" or "could not be processed". On the card it says select any 4-digit PIN at first use, and I just entered a random 4-digit number when prompted for PIN. Is that how it's supposed to work? Or do I need to use it for a "real" purchase first to set the PIN?
I've previously loaded the same BB card at the same WM with $200 Visa GCs bought at Staples without any issues, but only after setting PIN online before each load. There doesn't seem to be a way to set PIN at www.vanillavisa.com
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
A few days ago I bought for the first time a variable Vanilla Visa GC at CVS and loaded it with $500. Today I took it to WM to load Bluebird and it failed several times saying something like "Transaction not authorized" or "could not be processed". On the card it says select any 4-digit PIN at first use, and I just entered a random 4-digit number when prompted for PIN. Is that how it's supposed to work? Or do I need to use it for a "real" purchase first to set the PIN?
I've previously loaded the same BB card at the same WM with $200 Visa GCs bought at Staples without any issues, but only after setting PIN online before each load. There doesn't seem to be a way to set PIN at www.vanillavisa.com
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Also, I believe the Staples Visa GC are issued by MetaBank. If that is the case, you can use the last 4 digits of the card number as the PIN without setting it online. The MasterCards are issued by US Bank and I don't believe that works with them.
#4
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 142
Did you try it at the check out? I have had this happen before and figured that either the kiosk was down or vanilla was down. Tried a different wal-mart and it worked fine (had to use check out since kiosk was down).
The first 4 digit pin you enter is what the pin is set to. You can call the number on the back of the card to reset the pin though. Also, no need to make a "real purchase" first.
I bought a mygiftcardsite variable load GC and tried not setting the pin and using the last 4 of the card...bad move, the card was forever locked out from using as debit w/pin even after I called the number to set pin.
The first 4 digit pin you enter is what the pin is set to. You can call the number on the back of the card to reset the pin though. Also, no need to make a "real purchase" first.
I bought a mygiftcardsite variable load GC and tried not setting the pin and using the last 4 of the card...bad move, the card was forever locked out from using as debit w/pin even after I called the number to set pin.
#6
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 142
Also, from this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...cards-174.html
It says: "For Vanilla Visa, wait an hour after you purchase to use the card. Otherwise, you will get a redemption error."
In the top wiki part.
Could have been the problem with mine, and yours.
It says: "For Vanilla Visa, wait an hour after you purchase to use the card. Otherwise, you will get a redemption error."
In the top wiki part.
Could have been the problem with mine, and yours.
#7
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: JFK
Programs: *$ Gold :)
Posts: 1,061
Also, from this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...cards-174.html
It says: "For Vanilla Visa, wait an hour after you purchase to use the card. Otherwise, you will get a redemption error."
In the top wiki part.
Could have been the problem with mine, and yours.
It says: "For Vanilla Visa, wait an hour after you purchase to use the card. Otherwise, you will get a redemption error."
In the top wiki part.
Could have been the problem with mine, and yours.
#8
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 126
Thanks for the prompt replies.
The card is indeed activated and I see this when I look it up on the vanilla web site:
Available Gift Card Balance $500.00
I should be able to load the entire $500 to BB in one transaction, right?
Anyway, I cleared PIN online and will try again when I get a chance. Oh, and my previous transactions were at the customer service desk, there is no kiosk at this WM.
The card is indeed activated and I see this when I look it up on the vanilla web site:
Available Gift Card Balance $500.00
I should be able to load the entire $500 to BB in one transaction, right?
Anyway, I cleared PIN online and will try again when I get a chance. Oh, and my previous transactions were at the customer service desk, there is no kiosk at this WM.
#10
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 126
Update:
So I cleared PIN and went back to WM. Tried loading $500. Didn't go through, the message was "DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE APPR CODE = F7".
Tried loading $300 - same message.
Went to another WM, tried loading $300 - same result.
www.vanillavisa.com still shows Available Gift Card Balance $500.00.
Anyone knows what this means or how to get around it?
Tried loading $300 - same message.
Went to another WM, tried loading $300 - same result.
www.vanillavisa.com still shows Available Gift Card Balance $500.00.
Anyone knows what this means or how to get around it?
#11
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,249
So I cleared PIN and went back to WM. Tried loading $500. Didn't go through, the message was "DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE APPR CODE = F7".
Tried loading $300 - same message.
Went to another WM, tried loading $300 - same result.
www.vanillavisa.com still shows Available Gift Card Balance $500.00.
Anyone knows what this means or how to get around it?
Tried loading $300 - same message.
Went to another WM, tried loading $300 - same result.
www.vanillavisa.com still shows Available Gift Card Balance $500.00.
Anyone knows what this means or how to get around it?
#12
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 784
http://support.paperlesstrans.com/Pa...seMessages.pdf
seems to indicate that happy is correct. I have little patience for CSRs so I would liquidate in a different fashion and move on.
seems to indicate that happy is correct. I have little patience for CSRs so I would liquidate in a different fashion and move on.
#13
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: BOS
Programs: Marriott, AAdvantage, United, Club Carlson
Posts: 1,687
Did my first MS this week!!! Seems quite easy (thanks to you all), and I can pay a lot of bills that would not allow credit card.
Can someone let me know if this process will set off any alarms or cause issues?
1. Buy Vanilla Reload
2. Load BB $1k per day, to $5k per month.
3. Pay bills
All using an AMEX card for buy $500 VR at CVS.
Will AMEX have issues with me spending so much money at CVS all the time? ($5-$6k per month?)
Can someone let me know if this process will set off any alarms or cause issues?
1. Buy Vanilla Reload
2. Load BB $1k per day, to $5k per month.
3. Pay bills
All using an AMEX card for buy $500 VR at CVS.
Will AMEX have issues with me spending so much money at CVS all the time? ($5-$6k per month?)
#14
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 417
#15
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: SFO/SJC
Programs: MR,UR, UA, BA, AA, Hotels
Posts: 579
Did my first MS this week!!! Seems quite easy (thanks to you all), and I can pay a lot of bills that would not allow credit card.
Can someone let me know if this process will set off any alarms or cause issues?
1. Buy Vanilla Reload
2. Load BB $1k per day, to $5k per month.
3. Pay bills
All using an AMEX card for buy $500 VR at CVS.
Will AMEX have issues with me spending so much money at CVS all the time? ($5-$6k per month?)
Can someone let me know if this process will set off any alarms or cause issues?
1. Buy Vanilla Reload
2. Load BB $1k per day, to $5k per month.
3. Pay bills
All using an AMEX card for buy $500 VR at CVS.
Will AMEX have issues with me spending so much money at CVS all the time? ($5-$6k per month?)
In my case a FR is your friend and once through it you have carte blanche for a good long while.