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DaveInLA Jul 1, 2014 2:07 pm

I've been doing the expiration date trick and completely emptying my AGC for the past several months. Not a single issue (knock on wood)

payeco Jul 1, 2014 2:07 pm


Originally Posted by f0xx (Post 23126316)
The trick worked for me the last 5 cards I pushed through. :confused:

Weird, since the end of May it has been telling me it's the wrong expiration date. Before then the trick worked fine. In any case, not a big deal because like I said, if I add them under the Amazon store account settings I don't get a hold placed.

riversidetom Jul 1, 2014 4:12 pm

Already sent and received $1k with 2 different accounts today

tomcanada22 Jul 1, 2014 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by mastermind85 (Post 23124638)
Dammit, suspended this morning. Was first transfer, using different ip, different ssn, different name, different address, different bank account. .... Other than the last name there was nothing the same. Thinking about contacting them for this one...

I dont see anything here that should suggest why they shut you down (as your other post also said you are not doing direct A-B-A transfers):confused:
Nothing in Amz that forbids payments to other family members.
Also having same last name dont mean much as I have a co-worker with my same last name.

prasha11 Jul 1, 2014 5:44 pm

Anyone used OneVanilla visa for payment? does OV needs to be registered with Zip code?

newbynewbynew Jul 1, 2014 6:00 pm


Originally Posted by prasha11 (Post 23128103)
Anyone used OneVanilla visa for payment? does OV needs to be registered with Zip code?

I did register a while back but I never tried unregistered. Won't hurt though and only takes a minute.

The_Wrath_of_Khan Jul 1, 2014 6:51 pm

I've had a heap of accounts suspended including mine and several family members.

hacknovice Jul 1, 2014 7:53 pm

Same here, one of my daughter's account got suspended.

Is there any other similar service that can be used for manufactured spending, such as AP?

TIA for your help or reply.

payeco Jul 1, 2014 8:19 pm


Originally Posted by prasha11 (Post 23128103)
Anyone used OneVanilla visa for payment? does OV needs to be registered with Zip code?

OV and Metabank have worked unregistered for me.

payeco Jul 1, 2014 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by hacknovice (Post 23128542)
Same here, one of my daughter's account got suspended.

Is there any other similar service that can be used for manufactured spending, such as AP?

TIA for your help or reply.

Yeah, that one we've all been keeping a big secret. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Do some reading if you're looking for an alternative. That's what this forum is for...

italdesign Jul 2, 2014 8:43 am


Originally Posted by f0xx (Post 23111356)
Best word of advice? NEVER send from one SSN to the same SSN.
Be unique.


SSN 1 to SSN 2
SSN 2 to SSN 3
SSN 3 to SSN 1

They shut be down on a SSN 1 to SSN 1 payment.

Been using the above pattern for many months:

1 to 2
2 to 3
3 to 4
4 to 5
5 back to 1

All different SSNs. Each account managed by a different, real person, except 4 and 5 managed by the same person (different SSNs). Always on different computers except 4 and 5. All have different last names except 1 and 2. All have different address.

Guess which one got suspended? #3! LOL

DaveInLA Jul 2, 2014 9:19 am


Originally Posted by italdesign (Post 23130805)
Been using the above pattern for many months:

1 to 2
2 to 3
3 to 4
4 to 5
5 back to 1

All different SSNs. Each account managed by a different, real person, except 4 and 5 managed by the same person (different SSNs). Always on different computers except 4 and 5. All have different last names except 1 and 2. All have different address.

Guess which one got suspended? #3! LOL

So random!

tomcanada22 Jul 2, 2014 9:27 pm


Originally Posted by The_Wrath_of_Khan (Post 23128338)
I've had a heap of accounts suspended including mine and several family members.


Can you share some more data on this

tomcanada22 Jul 2, 2014 9:34 pm


Originally Posted by DaveInLA (Post 23131006)
So random!


Not really as all the transfers do form a loop. Not the simple A-B-C-A but just a larger loop. They seem to be adding more software to detect any sort of transaction relationships. If Amz is truly random then many who don't even know about MS and just sending for real payments once in a while but having similar names will also get shut down. Don't think Amz does anything random or by chance. They are definitely looking at user patterns and multiple links.
May shut down one or two accts to start but just a matter of time before everything is shut.

trubador Jul 3, 2014 11:39 am

Sorry if this has been answered already, but for the folks shut down are you maxing out and doing $1000 per month? or do you do a random amount in the $900s?


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