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MH370 Discussion and Speculation Thread
#1816
Join Date: May 2001
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Boeing P/Ns are quite small in general, unless it's a really old airframe where the P/N might have been written on the part by a person somewhere in the assembly process.
#1817
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 339
Nice job digging that up!
I still wonder though if they found a number 670BB or BB670 or just 670 (whatever it is) on the plane, it just seems like too much of a coincidence to not hold some lead...also, again speculation and who knows, but just looking at the photos compared to the debris makes it look remarkably similar...
I still wonder though if they found a number 670BB or BB670 or just 670 (whatever it is) on the plane, it just seems like too much of a coincidence to not hold some lead...also, again speculation and who knows, but just looking at the photos compared to the debris makes it look remarkably similar...
#1819
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It's there... just search "220" in the search query in the link and then click the last result that shows up (scroll down to the bottom)....
Also BB670 was reported by the local french newspaper and then the UK ones so it's possible it was 670BB and they just mixed it up?
Also BB670 was reported by the local french newspaper and then the UK ones so it's possible it was 670BB and they just mixed it up?
Meanwhile, if BB670 is for real, it appears to fit the serial number nomenclature for a flaperon, based on the pic posted upthread.
#1820
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 339
Sorry...I read the guy on FlightAware who posted 220 but it is 222...my mistake, I'm number challenged
Yea BB### seems to fit the serial number structure....time will tell but I think it's about as solid of a lead as we've got at this point in time
#1821
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The PDF divides the aircraft into zones then subzones. According to Page 201, subzone 670 is "Wing Trailing Edge Flap Fairings [Right]".
Page 223 then has various 113Wnnnn parts that appear in subzone 670, but not 113W3003. From a layman's view it appears that the parts there are individual pieces, not a full assembly
jk88usa, what was the source for the BB670 reference?
#1822
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 339
I think you may be agreeing more than you realise .
The PDF divides the aircraft into zones then subzones. According to Page 201, subzone 670 is "Wing Trailing Edge Flap Fairings [Right]".
Page 223 then has various 113Wnnnn parts that appear in subzone 670, but not 113W3003. From a layman's view it appears that the parts there are individual pieces, not a full assembly
jk88usa, what was the source for the BB670 reference?
The PDF divides the aircraft into zones then subzones. According to Page 201, subzone 670 is "Wing Trailing Edge Flap Fairings [Right]".
Page 223 then has various 113Wnnnn parts that appear in subzone 670, but not 113W3003. From a layman's view it appears that the parts there are individual pieces, not a full assembly
jk88usa, what was the source for the BB670 reference?
EDIT: More credible sources than French sketch sites...
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/malaysia-ai...island-1513234
Or just Google "BB670" and click on news...a whole host of articles
#1824
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The debris appears to be part of left wing, based on the manual provided by jk88usa, major zone 500 is left wing, 600 is right wing, so if 670 is the marking on the debris, then it might not be from a 777?
#1825
Join Date: Jul 2014
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Just curious where do you find it's part of a left wing? I'm not saying you're wrong I just assumed nobody could tell which wing it came from just by appearance...
#1826
Join Date: Jul 2014
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The AP is reporting US Officials have CONFIRMED the debris is a BOEING 777 FLAPERON (so essentially MH370)...don't worry folks, we here at FlyerTalk beat them to it
On a more serious note...what does this honestly do? I mean yea they've got a piece of the plane but it will likely raise more questions than answers...I can't imagine they'll suddenly be able to track it down in the ocean from this piece...other than dispel rumors it's not there
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ca0fe...ngs-boeing-777
On a more serious note...what does this honestly do? I mean yea they've got a piece of the plane but it will likely raise more questions than answers...I can't imagine they'll suddenly be able to track it down in the ocean from this piece...other than dispel rumors it's not there
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ca0fe...ngs-boeing-777
#1827
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The P/Ns on the left are all 5xx, which indicate left wing. OTOH, these two do look remarkably similar, so if it's indeed part of left wing of 777, then BB670 might not be part of Boeing marking at all.
#1829
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The AP is reporting US Officials have CONFIRMED the debris is a BOEING 777 FLAPERON (so essentially MH370)...don't worry folks, we here at FlyerTalk beat them to it
On a more serious note...what does this honestly do? I mean yea they've got a piece of the plane but it will likely raise more questions than answers...I can't imagine they'll suddenly be able to track it down in the ocean from this piece...other than dispel rumors it's not there
On a more serious note...what does this honestly do? I mean yea they've got a piece of the plane but it will likely raise more questions than answers...I can't imagine they'll suddenly be able to track it down in the ocean from this piece...other than dispel rumors it's not there
#1830
Join Date: Jul 2014
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And, while satellite data did suggest the Indian Ocean now everybody is going to question just how accurate it was on where it went down...