Mar 17, 2014, 3:08 pm
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MH370 Discussion and Speculation Thread
Dec 11, 2023, 3:07 pm
#1906
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Really excellent video by Green Dot Aviation published on youtube 3 days ago.
Some genuinely new analysis and information about the flight, in particular analysis of the lowering frequency of long-on requests to the satellite as the APU automatically started up in the fuel starvation phase of the flight and the subsequent calculation of the rate of descent at that time, increasing from -4k fpm to -15k fpm.
Also some analysis of the manual/active turning-off of the TCAS system that resulted in position/no altitude information being transmitted momentarily as the aircraft went dark on secondary radar.
Worth a watch IMHO:
Some genuinely new analysis and information about the flight, in particular analysis of the lowering frequency of long-on requests to the satellite as the APU automatically started up in the fuel starvation phase of the flight and the subsequent calculation of the rate of descent at that time, increasing from -4k fpm to -15k fpm.
Also some analysis of the manual/active turning-off of the TCAS system that resulted in position/no altitude information being transmitted momentarily as the aircraft went dark on secondary radar.
Worth a watch IMHO:
Dec 15, 2023, 7:30 am
#1907
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Really excellent video by Green Dot Aviation published on youtube 3 days ago.
Some genuinely new analysis and information about the flight, in particular analysis of the lowering frequency of long-on requests to the satellite as the APU automatically started up in the fuel starvation phase of the flight and the subsequent calculation of the rate of descent at that time, increasing from -4k fpm to -15k fpm.
Also some analysis of the manual/active turning-off of the TCAS system that resulted in position/no altitude information being transmitted momentarily as the aircraft went dark on secondary radar.
Worth a watch IMHO:
What Netflix got WRONG - Malaysian Flight 370
Some genuinely new analysis and information about the flight, in particular analysis of the lowering frequency of long-on requests to the satellite as the APU automatically started up in the fuel starvation phase of the flight and the subsequent calculation of the rate of descent at that time, increasing from -4k fpm to -15k fpm.
Also some analysis of the manual/active turning-off of the TCAS system that resulted in position/no altitude information being transmitted momentarily as the aircraft went dark on secondary radar.
Worth a watch IMHO:
What Netflix got WRONG - Malaysian Flight 370
Dec 15, 2023, 7:51 am
#1908
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I found the (albeit with some creative license) idea that he was holding his phone up to the window as the plane crossed over Penang, desperate to make contact with the outside world, as the other passengers and crew lay dead around him, incredibly haunting.
Dec 17, 2023, 5:56 am
#1909
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Yes, same for me, I didn't know - a brief registered "ping" via his network, but no other information transferred or received.
I found the (albeit with some creative license) idea that he was holding his phone up to the window as the plane crossed over Penang, desperate to make contact with the outside world, as the other passengers and crew lay dead around him, incredibly haunting.
I found the (albeit with some creative license) idea that he was holding his phone up to the window as the plane crossed over Penang, desperate to make contact with the outside world, as the other passengers and crew lay dead around him, incredibly haunting.
Jan 4, 2024, 11:44 pm
#1910
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There is a new report out from the aviation safety that states what cargo was onboard, some materials were considered dangerous because two of them if combined could be combustable... I don't know how accurate the report is, but it is from the Malaysian Military, and airlines. It was updated due to 40 of the families that lost loved ones wanted to re-open the case for answers. They are even paying out of pocket in efforts to find individuals, or companies to help them in their search endeavors.
I wonder if other passengers phones picked up service as well. I am wondering if families, authorities whomever can try to follow cellphone tower pings from people onboard. If the First Officer's phone got a hit could they not try to triangulate a smaller search ratio based off of cellphone tower hits?
I wonder if other passengers phones picked up service as well. I am wondering if families, authorities whomever can try to follow cellphone tower pings from people onboard. If the First Officer's phone got a hit could they not try to triangulate a smaller search ratio based off of cellphone tower hits?
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Jan 6, 2024 at 5:00 am Reason: Merged consecutive posts by same member
Jan 5, 2024, 2:58 am
#1911
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There is a new report out from the aviation safety that states what cargo was onboard, some materials were considered dangerous because two of them if combined could be combustable... I don't know how accurate the report is, but it is from the Malaysian Military, and airlines. It was updated due to 40 of the families that lost loved ones wanted to re-open the case for answers. They are even paying out of pocket in efforts to find individuals, or companies to help them in their search endeavors.
I wonder if other passengers phones picked up service as well. I am wondering if families, authorities whomever can try to follow cellphone tower pings from people onboard. If the First Officer's phone got a hit could they not try to triangulate a smaller search ratio based off of cellphone tower hits?
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Jan 6, 2024 at 5:02 am Reason: Merged consecutive posts by same member
Jan 5, 2024, 11:53 am
#1912
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Yes I have the link I will gladly upload for the aviation safety report they released in 2018.
I am just trying to think of things considering we have all kinds of new technology, and we still haven't been able to find the plane, or anyone aboard the plane, but debris has washed up including interior cabin parts, bur none of the ones who has perished in the accident 239 bodies were never found, recovered, and are still missing. so I am hoping to find ways to narrow it down so peoples loved ones can come home.
The families are trying to reopen the case and are willing to pay out of pocket for individual help, or corporate help in finding their loved ones, so I am hoping that they have peace and closure soon. I have gone over every detail of the flight path, and now reading this aviation safety manifesto they released in 2018 to know more and have a better idea.
I am just trying to think of things considering we have all kinds of new technology, and we still haven't been able to find the plane, or anyone aboard the plane, but debris has washed up including interior cabin parts, bur none of the ones who has perished in the accident 239 bodies were never found, recovered, and are still missing. so I am hoping to find ways to narrow it down so peoples loved ones can come home.
The families are trying to reopen the case and are willing to pay out of pocket for individual help, or corporate help in finding their loved ones, so I am hoping that they have peace and closure soon. I have gone over every detail of the flight path, and now reading this aviation safety manifesto they released in 2018 to know more and have a better idea.
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Jan 6, 2024 at 4:57 am Reason: Merged consecutive posts by same member
Jan 5, 2024, 12:02 pm
#1914
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The thought that cargo on-board somehow made the plane g
to the Indian Ocean, where it quite obviously went, seems rather absurd.
to the Indian Ocean, where it quite obviously went, seems rather absurd.
Jan 5, 2024, 8:27 pm
#1916
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Mar 3, 2024, 4:47 pm
#1917
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Malaysia in talks over new search for flight MH370 10 years after disappearance
A March 30, 2024 article in the Guardian:
Link to the full story: The Guardian: Malaysia in talks over new search for flight MH370 10 years after disappearance (March 3, 2024)
Malaysia’s government has signalled it plans to renew the search for the lost Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, 10 years after it disappeared.
It is in talks with the US marine robotics company Ocean Infinity to discuss a new search operation. The company says it is willing and able to return to the search, and has submitted a proposal to the Malaysian government.
Families of passengers who were onboard MH370 called for a renewed search operation as they gathered ahead of the 10-year anniversary of its disappearance, saying answers were needed for the future of flight safety.
It is in talks with the US marine robotics company Ocean Infinity to discuss a new search operation. The company says it is willing and able to return to the search, and has submitted a proposal to the Malaysian government.
Families of passengers who were onboard MH370 called for a renewed search operation as they gathered ahead of the 10-year anniversary of its disappearance, saying answers were needed for the future of flight safety.
Mar 13, 2024, 1:28 am
#1918
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A March 30, 2024 article in the Guardian:
Link to the full story: The Guardian: Malaysia in talks over new search for flight MH370 10 years after disappearance (March 3, 2024)
Link to the full story: The Guardian: Malaysia in talks over new search for flight MH370 10 years after disappearance (March 3, 2024)
Mar 17, 2024, 11:45 pm
#1919
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Yet another new analysis. The difference here is if I had to choose to have access to one video channel addressing air incidents: it would be this one - tremendous respect for this guy and his production team, refreshing not to have something associated with the latest book detailing a conspiracy theory to promote sales.
If you are familiar with the story from the "reputable" sources, I'd skip the first 40 minutes. This video looks at the theory that the plane could be tracked using degradation in digital signals as the plane crossed the path of those signals. While I had read about this sometime ago in a technical paper, it was well beyond my scientific knowledge threshold to really understand. Here it is set out in a very understandable way.
If you are familiar with the story from the "reputable" sources, I'd skip the first 40 minutes. This video looks at the theory that the plane could be tracked using degradation in digital signals as the plane crossed the path of those signals. While I had read about this sometime ago in a technical paper, it was well beyond my scientific knowledge threshold to really understand. Here it is set out in a very understandable way.
Last edited by Midships; Mar 18, 2024 at 12:34 am