Mar 17, 2014, 3:08 pm
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MH370 Discussion and Speculation Thread
Aug 3, 2015, 11:23 am
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Aug 5, 2015, 12:05 pm
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And that's why no one reads the USA Today anymore. It IS from the flight.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/05/exper...tack:topnews:4
Aug 5, 2015, 12:06 pm
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Aug 5, 2015, 12:10 pm
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And that's why no one reads the USA Today anymore. It IS from the flight.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/05/exper...tack:topnews:4
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/05/exper...tack:topnews:4
Aug 5, 2015, 12:46 pm
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Aug 5, 2015, 4:46 pm
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Indeed, the confusion stems from the USA today article talking about an entirely different piece of debris to the flaperon the other articles are confirming as coming from MH370. The 2nd item that some speculated was part of an aircraft door has been identified as being an ordinary ladder.
Aug 5, 2015, 9:54 pm
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corrected: Australian ocean flow drift model is now corrected:
http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...-analysis.aspx
Initial model data was incorrect:
http://eandt.theiet.org/news/2015/au...-modelling.cfm
http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...-analysis.aspx
Initial model data was incorrect:
http://eandt.theiet.org/news/2015/au...-modelling.cfm
Last edited by me4tux; Aug 5, 2015 at 10:13 pm Reason: corrected comments
Aug 6, 2015, 5:26 am
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Plane Window found?
For better or worse the Malaysians tend to try and get the word out first whether it is right or wrong.
Another example:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...r-says-n405006
There is also some talk of seat covers being collected.
Another example:
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...r-says-n405006
There is also some talk of seat covers being collected.
Aug 6, 2015, 6:55 am
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corrected: Australian ocean flow drift model is now corrected:
http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...-analysis.aspx
Initial model data was incorrect:
http://eandt.theiet.org/news/2015/au...-modelling.cfm
http://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/...-analysis.aspx
Initial model data was incorrect:
http://eandt.theiet.org/news/2015/au...-modelling.cfm
Aug 7, 2015, 9:32 pm
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Maldives, debris?
http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/61424
Debris from that flight or people jumping on the bandwagon? I always thought the reported sightings there weren't properly followed up.
http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/61424
Debris from that flight or people jumping on the bandwagon? I always thought the reported sightings there weren't properly followed up.
Aug 12, 2015, 5:08 pm
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The Disappearance of MH370 -- new podcast
Hi everyone,
after months and months of following, researching and trying to make sense of the disappearance of MH370 I have put together a 4-part podcast series which sums up what we know about the flight and explores possible scenarios of what might have happened in the early hours of March 8th 2014.
The series is specifically looking into catastrophic failure, human error and acts of sabotage as the possible cause, with the goal to find out what most likely made the Boeing 777 and its 239 people on board disappear.
If you are interested, please check out the podcast at http://opacityzero.press/ (links to iTunes, streaming, RSS feed, etc. can be found there) and let me know what you think!
Cant wait to hear your thoughts,
Mel
after months and months of following, researching and trying to make sense of the disappearance of MH370 I have put together a 4-part podcast series which sums up what we know about the flight and explores possible scenarios of what might have happened in the early hours of March 8th 2014.
The series is specifically looking into catastrophic failure, human error and acts of sabotage as the possible cause, with the goal to find out what most likely made the Boeing 777 and its 239 people on board disappear.
If you are interested, please check out the podcast at http://opacityzero.press/ (links to iTunes, streaming, RSS feed, etc. can be found there) and let me know what you think!
Cant wait to hear your thoughts,
Mel
Jun 2, 2016, 12:30 pm
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Maldives, debris?
http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/61424
Debris from that flight or people jumping on the bandwagon? I always thought the reported sightings there weren't properly followed up.
http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/61424
Debris from that flight or people jumping on the bandwagon? I always thought the reported sightings there weren't properly followed up.
Aug 1, 2016, 7:17 pm
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Following the 60 Minutes documentary the opinion of Canadian accident investigator Larry Vance explaining the undamaged condition of the Flaperon has influenced a lot of people to heap further accusations against the pilot.
Mr Vance asserts the Flaperon could only have a damaged trailing edge if the flaperon was deployed in a controlled ditching. I dispute that conclusion. The trailing edge could also be tattered by flutter the same way a flag is in heavy wind.
Mr Vance does not address the BFO Doppler evidence from two signals at 00:19 UTC showing in a span of 8 seconds MH370's rate of descent accelerated from 12,000 fpm to 20,000 fpm.
The B777 Flight Manual cautions against deliberately exceeding 310 KIAS or 8,000 fpm in an emergency descent so 20,000 fpm is double that limitation. In fact it is double the rate of descent of Air France AF447 so just how does Mr Vance assert there was a controlled ditching at 20,000 fpm?
Mr Vance asserts the Flaperon could only have a damaged trailing edge if the flaperon was deployed in a controlled ditching. I dispute that conclusion. The trailing edge could also be tattered by flutter the same way a flag is in heavy wind.
Mr Vance does not address the BFO Doppler evidence from two signals at 00:19 UTC showing in a span of 8 seconds MH370's rate of descent accelerated from 12,000 fpm to 20,000 fpm.
The B777 Flight Manual cautions against deliberately exceeding 310 KIAS or 8,000 fpm in an emergency descent so 20,000 fpm is double that limitation. In fact it is double the rate of descent of Air France AF447 so just how does Mr Vance assert there was a controlled ditching at 20,000 fpm?