Amanresorts Thread 2015 (Started by Amanjunkie)
Oct 29, 2015, 5:13 pm
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im willing to post for anyone who wants it to be anonymous, just send me a private message / email
edit - sometimes outgoing employee overlaps with incoming employee as part of succession planning
edit - sometimes outgoing employee overlaps with incoming employee as part of succession planning
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Oct 29, 2015 at 6:14 pm
Oct 29, 2015, 5:41 pm
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Sounds as though there will be more. I just heard that the new Aman Regime have cut salaries for the newly hired GMs (which explains why they appear to be hiring middle-ranking people) and are looking at a 20% reduction in Aman staff.
I also heard that the long-time staff at Amanpuri are looking for new jobs since Fred Varnier was fired. Allegedly, he was given 1 day to leave, after being there for 21 years. Whatever you thought of Fred, this is no way to treat anybody.
I also heard that the long-time staff at Amanpuri are looking for new jobs since Fred Varnier was fired. Allegedly, he was given 1 day to leave, after being there for 21 years. Whatever you thought of Fred, this is no way to treat anybody.
Even in a socialist country like france, manager position are often not allowed to work during their notice and often asked to leave on the spot. (But they are paid)
Oct 29, 2015, 7:48 pm
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No wonder we saw a non Aman GM for their latest urban property in Tokyo...
Oct 29, 2015, 8:36 pm
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sue reitz was original tokyo GM, but departure may have involved personal reasons
Oct 29, 2015, 10:00 pm
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Oct 30, 2015, 4:01 am
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Assuming most of the GM departures were forced, I would be curious to understand the reasons behind? Especially given the quite central role of the GMs in the Aman model.
In most typical takeover cases, the new owners would try to retain key managers in order to ensure some continuity. Unless, the new owners view the acquired company as a restructuring/turnaround. So that's maybe exactly how they see it.
Is there any public data around the historic economic viability/sucess of Aman? Maybe the new owners feel that things like a high staff-to-guest ratio, low density, little advertising etc. stand in the way of generating a good return on investments [while they unfortunately destroy the fabric of the brand as a sort of collateral damage]?
In most typical takeover cases, the new owners would try to retain key managers in order to ensure some continuity. Unless, the new owners view the acquired company as a restructuring/turnaround. So that's maybe exactly how they see it.
Is there any public data around the historic economic viability/sucess of Aman? Maybe the new owners feel that things like a high staff-to-guest ratio, low density, little advertising etc. stand in the way of generating a good return on investments [while they unfortunately destroy the fabric of the brand as a sort of collateral damage]?
Oct 30, 2015, 6:56 am
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I just received an email from someone at Aman.
Dear Mr. XXXX
On behalf of Aman I would like to invite you to the reopening celebrations of Amanjena in Marrakech on Saturday 5th December 2015. The ‘Save the Date’ information is below and please confirm the best address for us to send the formal invitation to.
We hope you can join us in celebrating the reopening of Aman’s peaceful paradise, Amanjena.
On behalf of Aman I would like to invite you to the reopening celebrations of Amanjena in Marrakech on Saturday 5th December 2015. The ‘Save the Date’ information is below and please confirm the best address for us to send the formal invitation to.
We hope you can join us in celebrating the reopening of Aman’s peaceful paradise, Amanjena.
Oct 30, 2015, 11:08 am
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i have posted a lot of (old) financial data kamel123
no, not all fired, its the ownership change with zecha out
doronin is really the sole owner
theyre not adding rooms, but have said theyre increasing occupancy
and doronin is in property, so probably more residences, less remote
maybe there is hope for occasional property in ('pre-tourism?') areas
no, not all fired, its the ownership change with zecha out
doronin is really the sole owner
theyre not adding rooms, but have said theyre increasing occupancy
and doronin is in property, so probably more residences, less remote
maybe there is hope for occasional property in ('pre-tourism?') areas
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Oct 30, 2015, 8:11 pm
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Looking at an Aman beachside long weekend in mid November somewhere in SE Asia.
Want to keep it at the lower end of Aman prices which rules out Amanpuri/Amanpolo on the dates I am looking at.
Best options for those dates seem to be Amanoi or Amankila.
Amanoi obviously harder to get to but likely better weather than Bali in November.
Any comments/suggestions on pros/cons given the above?
Want to keep it at the lower end of Aman prices which rules out Amanpuri/Amanpolo on the dates I am looking at.
Best options for those dates seem to be Amanoi or Amankila.
Amanoi obviously harder to get to but likely better weather than Bali in November.
Any comments/suggestions on pros/cons given the above?
Oct 31, 2015, 5:28 pm
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Looking at an Aman beachside long weekend in mid November somewhere in SE Asia.
Want to keep it at the lower end of Aman prices which rules out Amanpuri/Amanpolo on the dates I am looking at.
Best options for those dates seem to be Amanoi or Amankila.
Amanoi obviously harder to get to but likely better weather than Bali in November.
Any comments/suggestions on pros/cons given the above?
Want to keep it at the lower end of Aman prices which rules out Amanpuri/Amanpolo on the dates I am looking at.
Best options for those dates seem to be Amanoi or Amankila.
Amanoi obviously harder to get to but likely better weather than Bali in November.
Any comments/suggestions on pros/cons given the above?
It is not recommended to swim in Bali waters .
How often might you be returning to Vietnam & Bali ?
Both different / unique .
N'oi has a spa while Kila doesn't .
As you say , possibly N'oi better weather then .
Both entail a drive from the airport with N'oi being slightly longer but having more varied spectacular scenery .
Love the Kila pools but N'oi has 2 with great views too ..
If you can wing it , go stay at both
, stretching it if Deepavali long weekend . Sorry , may not have helped !
Oct 31, 2015, 6:48 pm
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Thanks @FlyerEC. I live in Singapore so getting to Vietnam and Bali is easy. Leaning towards N'oi which leaves Kila for another time!
Nov 1, 2015, 1:47 am
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Looking at an Aman beachside long weekend in mid November somewhere in SE Asia.
Want to keep it at the lower end of Aman prices which rules out Amanpuri/Amanpolo on the dates I am looking at.
Best options for those dates seem to be Amanoi or Amankila.
Amanoi obviously harder to get to but likely better weather than Bali in November.
Any comments/suggestions on pros/cons given the above?
Want to keep it at the lower end of Aman prices which rules out Amanpuri/Amanpolo on the dates I am looking at.
Best options for those dates seem to be Amanoi or Amankila.
Amanoi obviously harder to get to but likely better weather than Bali in November.
Any comments/suggestions on pros/cons given the above?
I wouldn't rule out Amanpuri that easy. Mid-November is still low-season price at Puri - good weather too. Easy enough to get to. Plus if you're looking at THIS November, this should be when they still have their '4th night free' deal on.
Contact one of the Virtuoso advisors on this board
Nov 1, 2015, 8:51 am
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(except private pool is less expensive at noi)
didnt puri low season end oct 15? aman web reservations shows higher season
are agents / guests here noticing a difference in upgrades at aman in 2014/2015 ?
Nov 1, 2015, 9:13 am
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So anyone thinking of going?