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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Dec 31, 2017, 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Everlann
Hi guys!
Tomorrow I am going to have SFO->FRA->DME flight and I'm kinda nervous.
estimated arrival time of first flight is 11:15, while boarding time for the second one is 11:50 and departure 12:20. Both flight are operated by lufthansa (and i bought both as single ticket).
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It seems like first flight is likely to be late o_O like today it was delayed for 2 hours. sometimes it is late for 20 minutes.

is there any possibility that both me and my luggage will be able to make it, given that arriving is to Z and departure from B and I don't have Schengen visa? and what is the most optimal route for me, taking a train?
it is going to be my first-ever connection in FRA..
It is a little too late for Everlann but the only way to go from Z to (non-Schengen) B without entering Schengen/Germany is to take the Skyline train. Arrivals from SFO should be ‘clean’ but unfortunately if you have to take the Skyline train you must clear security.
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Hello all,
I'm trying to decide if I want to change my travel plans to Ireland next year. I'm considering a change to my return which would be DUB-FRA-DTW, flying Lufthansa J with a 1:15 layover in FRA. I'm having a hard time understanding the chart in the wiki, so I'm not sure if 1:15 is enough time for a couple of rookies in FRA. It seems like we won't need to deal with passport control/immigration, but probably some security checks? The inbound would be LH983 and out is LH442. It would be a Friday morning around 9am. Thanks for any advice. This would be an option available to extend out stay a couple more days. Scheduled to come back DUB-ORD on EI in J. LH in J sounds probably better?

Thanks,
Mike
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Old Jan 1, 2018, 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by madmike283
Hello all,
I'm trying to decide if I want to change my travel plans to Ireland next year. I'm considering a change to my return which would be DUB-FRA-DTW, flying Lufthansa J with a 1:15 layover in FRA. I'm having a hard time understanding the chart in the wiki, so I'm not sure if 1:15 is enough time for a couple of rookies in FRA. It seems like we won't need to deal with passport control/immigration, but probably some security checks? The inbound would be LH983 and out is LH442. It would be a Friday morning around 9am. Thanks for any advice. This would be an option available to extend out stay a couple more days. Scheduled to come back DUB-ORD on EI in J. LH in J sounds probably better?

Thanks,
Mike
Your quoted rationale really makes little sense. EI business is perfectly fine. Lie-Flat seats. Why would you trade DUB-ORD non-stop (and a later departure time) with pre-clearance in Dublin that makes your arrival in Chicago into a domestic one for a short connection DUB-FRA-DTW? Starting from DUB on LH means your flight departs at the ungodly hour of 0545 from Terminal 1.
It you take DUB-FRA-DTW you absolutely will have to go through passport control - it's right there before you enter the Z gates (where most US-bound flights depart from).
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Originally Posted by UAPremExecflyer
Your quoted rationale really makes little sense. EI business is perfectly fine. Lie-Flat seats. Why would you trade DUB-ORD non-stop (and a later departure time) with pre-clearance in Dublin that makes your arrival in Chicago into a domestic one for a short connection DUB-FRA-DTW? Starting from DUB on LH means your flight departs at the ungodly hour of 0545 from Terminal 1.
It you take DUB-FRA-DTW you absolutely will have to go through passport control - it's right there before you enter the Z gates (where most US-bound flights depart from).
I agree with your reason for preferring the EI non-stop flight to ORD assuming ORD is a convenient alternative to DTW. However, if flying DUB-FRA-DTW there is no need to go through passport control in FRA. It is likely that transfer security in FRA is needed unless the flight from DUB arrives at AEUW.
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Thanks for the info guys, you make plenty of sense. Our final destination is DEN, so either works. There is a similar EI award returning via IAD that would also suit if we want to extend a couple of days.
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Hi experts, i posted a question in the Europ forum, but seem like I will get better response here.
We will have 7 hrs layover in Frankfurt so i want to take my mother to tour the city. Can I rent a wheel chair at the airport for the day becuase she can not walk too much too long?. Please advise, thankssss!
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Browsed a bit for an answer but would feel more comfortable posing the question myself.

Flying from MRS-NYC on the 13th this month in LH F and have 2 options:
1 - connect through MUC or
2 - connect through FRA but with a 45 min connection.

I prefer to connect in FRA bc the plane is a 747 (which I have yet to fly), but am worried this connection time is too short. I'm an American Passport holder if that changes anything. Is the 45 min connection too tight?
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Originally Posted by janjablonski
Browsed a bit for an answer but would feel more comfortable posing the question myself.

Flying from MRS-NYC on the 13th this month in LH F and have 2 options:
1 - connect through MUC or
2 - connect through FRA but with a 45 min connection.

I prefer to connect in FRA bc the plane is a 747 (which I have yet to fly), but am worried this connection time is too short. I'm an American Passport holder if that changes anything. Is the 45 min connection too tight?
45 Minutes in FRA is very tight but LH sell it so possible. It leaves no time to spend in the excellent F lounges but as you will be flying F, LH will do everything for you to make your connection.

if your incoming flight is on time, you will be picked up from an apron position and driven to the terminal (suggest to ask drop off at B, go through passport control at B and then take a car from FCL B to your connecting flight). If your MRS flight is at a gate you will have to walk to the connecting flight yourself, going through immigration between A and Z (or running through the tunnel to B...) If you have a 10-15 minute delay, LH may provide a gate to gate transfer via a special passport control. If your incoming MRS is delayed such that you wouldn’t make the connection anymore, LH would rebook on the first available flight.

MUC will give you more time in the lounge and less stress but, as you say, not the B748. I’d take this option as it is less stressful, all else being equal.
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45 Minutes in FRA is very tight but LH sell it so possible. It leaves no time to spend in the excellent F lounges but as you will be flying F, LH will do everything for you to make your connection.

if your incoming flight is on time, you will be picked up from an apron position and driven to the terminal (suggest to ask drop off at B, go through passport control at B and then take a car from FCL B to your connecting flight). If your MRS flight is at a gate you will have to walk to the connecting flight yourself, going through immigration between A and Z (or running through the tunnel to B...) If you have a 10-15 minute delay, LH may provide a gate to gate transfer via a special passport control. If your incoming MRS is delayed such that you wouldn’t make the connection anymore, LH would rebook on the first available flight.

MUC will give you more time in the lounge and less stress but, as you say, not the B748. I’d take this option as it is less stressful, all else being equal.
Thank you for your help! I'm thinking you're right in that just taking the MUC connection is the easier play given the risk for a delay. Have dinner plans with the wifey that night and she wouldn't wouldn't be too pleased if I missed...
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Originally Posted by janjablonski
Have dinner plans with the wifey that night and she wouldn't wouldn't be too pleased if I missed...
The 748 is a great bird but it is hardly worth a night on the couch.
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Originally Posted by hondaman82
Hi experts, i posted a question in the Europ forum, but seem like I will get better response here.
We will have 7 hrs layover in Frankfurt so i want to take my mother to tour the city. Can I rent a wheel chair at the airport for the day becuase she can not walk too much too long?. Please advise, thankssss!
You could try the dedicated Disability Travel forum on FT. A Google search for "wheelchair rental Frankfurt" might find useful links. Also try searching for Sanitätshaus.

You may also want to consider Mainz rather than Frankfurt for a visit.
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Hi,

i am leaving soon from Z gates on a IA flight bound to Chicago. After checking in though I would like to check out the Air Canada lounge in the B Pier, as I heard it's very nice. Question: can I do that? If so, do I have to go through security again after leaving the lounge to get to concourse Z?
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i am leaving soon from Z gates on a IA flight bound to Chicago. After checking in though I would like to check out the Air Canada lounge in the B Pier, as I heard it's very nice. Question: can I do that? If so, do I have to go through security again after leaving the lounge to get to concourse Z?
The short answer is Yes.

For the long answer check this post. If you are not departing from a non-Schengen B gate you have to re-clear security after leaving the Air Canada lounge.
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My parents are flying CDG-FRA-JFK with LH on the CDG-FRA leg connecting to the SQ FRA-JFK flight. The ticket was booked as an AC award as one ticket.

1) Their current connection time is 70 minutes. Is that feasible for two people in their mid-sixties who walk comfortably but who don't sprint from place to place?
2) If they don't make the flight, should they go to the LH desk? The SQ desk? The AC desk?
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Originally Posted by steveholt
My parents are flying CDG-FRA-JFK with LH on the CDG-FRA leg connecting to the SQ FRA-JFK flight. The ticket was booked as an AC award as one ticket.

1) Their current connection time is 70 minutes. Is that feasible for two people in their mid-sixties who walk comfortably but who don't sprint from place to place?
They’ll be fine as long as the flight from CDG is not very late. They should go down the elevator between gates A15 and A17, go through the tunnel and clear passport control at the end into B departures to avoid transfer security.

2) If they don't make the flight, should they go to the LH desk? The SQ desk? The AC desk?
They should go to the LH transfer desk in B. I don’t even know if SQ has a service desk airside.
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