Purposeful slowdown at Frankfurt security line?
#241
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#243
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I quite enjoyed the senator lounge in A.
The shower was nice, especially after the mad dash across the terminal. Then I chilled out for a while - ate some meatloaf like sausage, some braised pork cheek, some apricot dumplings in vanilla sauce, and various nibbles and goodies. Had some lovely weissbeir, and some champagne, and watched the planes on the tarmac (+ napped a bit) on the sofas.
Total delay was abit over 5 hours. Don't think I can get EU 216 as it's a ticket sold by AC (014 ticket stock) and the delay was on ACs side (and departed from a non EU airport on a non EU carrier. Canada's delay compensation rules aren't in effect yet till December either.stated reason for the delay/super long taxiing: "This flight is delayed due to airport facility limitations."
But, made it safe and sound (even though the flight from FRA-GOT was not comfortable at all I had nabbed the emergency exit on 816, and got 25F on 818 (a320). Tight quarters. Thankfully my checked luggage made it as well.
I think I'm going to do my best to avoid FRA in the future. Have had good connections (albeit with very rude immigration officers) in the past via MUC, so may try that next time I need to fly to Germany. Next time I'm headed to GOT, I'll consider routing via ZRH or CPH. Probably need to hit LEJ in December, so we'll see.
It's always an interesting experience for me going through German security and immigration. But that's a topic for another thread, I suspect.
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As far as I understand Canada’s new passenger rights, that reason is not covered by them after December as well.
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#246
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Total disaster today (as last time 2 weeks ago) at normal security checkpoints for A/Z gates: All 20+ 'old' inspection lanes were closed again. The app showed 'low queuing time' (LOL). Eco lane had 300+ people, ~50 in the priority lane in front of the closed 'old' inspection lanes. Then the Eco and priority lanes were merged, everyone had to go to the 'new' building where eco and priority lanes were split again. More queues (200+ in Eco, 50+ in prioriy lanes). My laptop bag and suitcase were manually inspected (as >50% of all other bags). Although my pockets were completely empty, no belt, no metal items, I had a manual intensive pat down. Then had to take off my shoes, which were manually x-rayed. Finally a wipe test for explosives. Needless to say that with the same luggage and clothes, nothing of this happened in GVA, ZRH, MUC, VIE, ... and I passed security on <5 min. Whole waiting+procedure took almost 40 minutes. Don't remember to have ever waited that long at security in the past 10 years. And all this at 1:50 PM on a wednesday - hardly rush hour.
But as a bonus, I had a very thorough patdown of my testicles, penis and but crack, because their machine said so. I had nothing on me, no metal, nothing. But just to make sure, they Xrayed my shoes and a plastic transparent tooth retainer I had in my pocket. What a bunch of clowns!
FRA, never again if I can avoid it at all.
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OMG, same exact thing for me today, absolutely ridiculous screening, worse than I've every had anywhere, with the same exact laptop bag that I carry around the world (which is indeed full of electronics).
But as a bonus, I had a very thorough patdown of my testicles, penis and but crack, because their machine said so. I had nothing on me, no metal, nothing. But just to make sure, they Xrayed my shoes and a plastic transparent tooth retainer I had in my pocket. What a bunch of clowns!
FRA, never again if I can avoid it at all.
But as a bonus, I had a very thorough patdown of my testicles, penis and but crack, because their machine said so. I had nothing on me, no metal, nothing. But just to make sure, they Xrayed my shoes and a plastic transparent tooth retainer I had in my pocket. What a bunch of clowns!
FRA, never again if I can avoid it at all.
Either way, the kind older German man didn't use the back of his hands as is customary by TSA/CATSA but just went and grabbed my junk full on. I made sure to look him in the eye and smile slightly, lest he be uncomfortable.
They then swabbed all my cameras for explosive residue for God knows what reason...they clearly saw it was camera equipment on the X-ray and asked about it explicitly.
#248
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Reading this, it seems I was lucky last week: also got the email from LH about "longer security check times" and was at the airport 1.5 hours before departure of my flight (which was then delayed by 1 hour, but that's another story).
Went into the security check area and thought: oh, not too terrible - until I realized that they had changed the setup and there were long queues in front of the new security check space in A. Was in the *G line thank God, but it still took 35 mins until exiting the check (again, I was lucky as no padding, no luggage inspection, no nothing).
They had "Blockabfertigung" from the old to the new area, and once I finally entered there and the lanes split again for *G vs. economy, the lady standing there told me: go to economy, that's much faster. And indeed - while there were only ~30 people in the business lane, there was only 1 station open. For the ~200 people in economy, it was like 10 stations, and the line moved way quicker.
Colleagues which I met by chance said they weren't in the *G line and it took them more than 1 hour for the whole process (this was at 2:30pm - I guess not the busiest time).
Went into the security check area and thought: oh, not too terrible - until I realized that they had changed the setup and there were long queues in front of the new security check space in A. Was in the *G line thank God, but it still took 35 mins until exiting the check (again, I was lucky as no padding, no luggage inspection, no nothing).
They had "Blockabfertigung" from the old to the new area, and once I finally entered there and the lanes split again for *G vs. economy, the lady standing there told me: go to economy, that's much faster. And indeed - while there were only ~30 people in the business lane, there was only 1 station open. For the ~200 people in economy, it was like 10 stations, and the line moved way quicker.
Colleagues which I met by chance said they weren't in the *G line and it took them more than 1 hour for the whole process (this was at 2:30pm - I guess not the busiest time).
#249
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Reading all of this, I am getting a bit nervous about my flight connections through FRA in the upcoming weeks. Have not transited trough FRA for ages..
Does all this mean that there is basically always a queue of more than one hour? Are there certain weekdays, times of the days or connections (schengen-non schengen etc) that are worse than others?
My example: OSL – FRA – ADD transiting FRA at Sunday at noon and on the way back transiting on a Tuesday early in the morning. Transit time is 1h40min each. Is that risky (with *G)?
Does all this mean that there is basically always a queue of more than one hour? Are there certain weekdays, times of the days or connections (schengen-non schengen etc) that are worse than others?
My example: OSL – FRA – ADD transiting FRA at Sunday at noon and on the way back transiting on a Tuesday early in the morning. Transit time is 1h40min each. Is that risky (with *G)?
#250
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Outbound you should not see any security, on the return you have to be careful and avoid the A checkpoint.
#251
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Reading all of this, I am getting a bit nervous about my flight connections through FRA in the upcoming weeks. Have not transited trough FRA for ages..
Does all this mean that there is basically always a queue of more than one hour? Are there certain weekdays, times of the days or connections (schengen-non schengen etc) that are worse than others?
My example: OSL – FRA – ADD transiting FRA at Sunday at noon and on the way back transiting on a Tuesday early in the morning. Transit time is 1h40min each. Is that risky (with *G)?
Does all this mean that there is basically always a queue of more than one hour? Are there certain weekdays, times of the days or connections (schengen-non schengen etc) that are worse than others?
My example: OSL – FRA – ADD transiting FRA at Sunday at noon and on the way back transiting on a Tuesday early in the morning. Transit time is 1h40min each. Is that risky (with *G)?
#252
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its usually leaving from a bus gate in B
#253
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For sure KRK will go from A and I’ll be coming from UK. With my 50 minutes what would the best security scenario to make the connection?
Last time I had an issue where the flight went from A40, which is the most furthest gate and I just couldn’t get there fast enough before it closed.
Last time I had an issue where the flight went from A40, which is the most furthest gate and I just couldn’t get there fast enough before it closed.
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For sure KRK will go from A and I’ll be coming from UK. With my 50 minutes what would the best security scenario to make the connection?
Last time I had an issue where the flight went from A40, which is the most furthest gate and I just couldn’t get there fast enough before it closed.
Last time I had an issue where the flight went from A40, which is the most furthest gate and I just couldn’t get there fast enough before it closed.
Do let us know how it goes ?