chris63

Good luck.... but the very long lines atm are for pax originating at FRA, B connection security was clear all of Wednesday afternoon & evening.

NewbieRunner

I don’t disagree that FRA security has problems but in addition to AMS you should be comparing FRA with other larger European airports such as LHR and CDG. MUC is about 60% the size of FRA and CPH is less than 50% in terms of passenger numbers.

chris63

FRAPORT couldn’t organise a ‘Piss up in a Brewery’ , just look at the layout , it needs demolishing & a new Airport

I simply wouldn’t use the place if I wasn’t HON.

oliver2002

There seems to be serious problems with staffing at FraSec where the security people are employed at. Even though verdi negotiated a better wage for them it seems sick outs are super high and they can't find new employees... 16,63€/h is the headline offer https://www.frasec.de/stellenanzeige...ug-de-j39.html It seems verdi wanted 20€, and the wage agreement is 19 by 2021.

chris63

Catering is a similar problem, no one want’s the jobs on the pay offered.

NewbieRunner

It should be possible to reduce the number of passengers having to go through transfer security unnecessarily by allowing certain passengers arriving in B non-Schengen to enter the terminal on the departure level and making passport control checkpoints on level 2 near the Goethe Bar to work in both directions. Currently these checkpoints are for Schengen > non-Schengen only. All arriving AC and SQ passengers and passengers from the UK, Ireland and occasionally the US must clear transfer security if they arrive in B though these countries are all considered “clean”. It will allow passengers connecting to A to go to their gate via the tunnel without clearing transfer security. Additionally they should make the B-Z transfer bus a permanent feature in both directions.

They should also make more use of AEUW bus gates instead of ANS, and allow more flights from the UK and Ireland to arrive at Z gates in the evening after US departures from Z.

These measures don’t help the long delays in A security but the current arrangements give me the impression that they are trying to make as many transfer passengers to go through security as possible.

ecc

Missed the connection.
Inbound landed on time and taxied for at least 20 minutes...to C gates. Mad dash to connect to A via the train, used fast lane at security (flight was listed) and they worked so... slowly. Then they swabbed all my camera gear.
Used EU automated immigration (I'm an EU citizen) and ran to the gate (A20)
They already closed it as it was a bus gate and they let the last bus leave. Rebooked on LH 818. Enjoying the senator lounge in the meantime.

behuman

This is done very well at ZRH arriving at the D gates, only passport control, no security for transferring ex clean countries.

Had also a bad experience in FRA last week when arriving from the UK. The lady at the connecting gate (older experienced looking staff member) after having kindly waited for me before closing the flight, stated that "we do not consider flights from the UK as clean". Well, this might be a consequence of Brexit .

This said the whole security procedure in FRA is extremely slow, but hopefully at least efficient. Rating FRA behind SA airports like BOG; GIG or SCL . In the long run a negative image for an airline like LH.

NewbieRunner

Thanks for the update. I’m sorry you missed the connection but at least you seem to be enjoying the SEN lounge.

I’m surprised you ended up in C. I thought all AC flights used B gates.

NewbieRunner

It works at ZRH to an extent but if your connecting flight leaves from E you have to go through transfer security once you arrive in E or go through passport control twice - into A and out of A - to avoid security. I’ve done both in both directions and it’s hard to tell which is faster. Neither is convenient.

However, it works every time in MUC! Their people carrier has three sections so riding the people carrier between T2 and T2 Satellite doesn’t involve having to clear security as it does in FRA and ZRH.

The UK is “clean” (for now anyway ) but in FRA it all depends on where your flight arrives. AEUW and Z gates are clean arrivals , everywhere else is unclean.

hugolover

Got a 45 min connection shortly. After reading this, I’m not optimistic I’ll be tucked up in my crisp white bedding that night. Nor am I optimistic that my flight will be fully catered!

oliver2002

chris63

That’s FRA & you landed on time, so quite why LH continue to sell these ‘mission impossible ‘ connections is beyond me & a lot of others....

You would have enjoyed the AC ML lounge even more but that’s at B43

What is your delay at final destination ?

chris63

Maybe your expecting too much from a 5* airline ? At its major hub ?

chris63

Exactly !
i vote to put you in charge at FRA for a few hours & it will be solved, all that is needed is some common sense,something totally lacking at FRAPORT