Lufthansa business class [merged] experience reports
May 5, 2018, 10:42 am
#332
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 176
Lufthansa A340-300 Biz seats
Trying to read & digest the reviews is not getting me anywhere on evaluating the Biz class seats TPA-FRA on A340-300 Vers 1.
One review complains that there is a lav in the section but they are reserved exculsively for crew, yet another praises the fact that there is a lav dedicated to biz class. And another says Biz class uses both the upfrot, and another shared with Premium economy, while another says that the prem economy is shared by the regular economy.
One says no leg room, yet another says roomy for feet. One says no foot rest, and another says good footrest.
SHeesh - we will be two of us together, short (5'6" and 5'2") and mainly want a comfortable seat & ability to sleep fairly well. Currently booked on a Delta flight out of NY, but our schedule changed so we'll have to leave from tpa, so considering a change to LX out of tpa. But hoping for an idea of the seating we'll encounter. I've rejected the idea of SAS due to biz seat reviews - at least they are consistent.
One review complains that there is a lav in the section but they are reserved exculsively for crew, yet another praises the fact that there is a lav dedicated to biz class. And another says Biz class uses both the upfrot, and another shared with Premium economy, while another says that the prem economy is shared by the regular economy.
One says no leg room, yet another says roomy for feet. One says no foot rest, and another says good footrest.
SHeesh - we will be two of us together, short (5'6" and 5'2") and mainly want a comfortable seat & ability to sleep fairly well. Currently booked on a Delta flight out of NY, but our schedule changed so we'll have to leave from tpa, so considering a change to LX out of tpa. But hoping for an idea of the seating we'll encounter. I've rejected the idea of SAS due to biz seat reviews - at least they are consistent.
May 5, 2018, 11:07 am
#333
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SHeesh - we will be two of us together, short (5'6" and 5'2") and mainly want a comfortable seat & ability to sleep fairly well. Currently booked on a Delta flight out of NY, but our schedule changed so we'll have to leave from tpa, so considering a change to LX out of tpa. But hoping for an idea of the seating we'll encounter. I've rejected the idea of SAS due to biz seat reviews - at least they are consistent.
May 5, 2018, 11:53 am
#334
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: QR Platinum OWE, LH SEN
Posts: 91
It is a wonderfully comfortable seat with plenty of space, great service and the food is very edible. I have been on at least 10 LH C flights over the past years, I think 2 on the A340 and never had anything to complain about. The seat is very comfortable, you can even change the hardness/softness to match your preference.
I have also been on many more QR C/F flights in the same time period and yes the 1 - 2 - 1 setups are even better.
But tt say LH is "awful", bad and so on, well no. Economy is awful, however evidence proves that it is survivable by millions every day.
Most of the complaints about LH C are "having another person next to me" - such hardship - or "having to lift a leg to climb over someone" - don't book a window seat if this is soooo terrible for you.
I am always very thankful to be able to fly business class. I recommend getting a seat at least 2 rows away from a toilet/galley as it is quieter. But even being near a toilet/galley will not make it a bad flight, just maybe not as great as it could have been.
I have also been on many more QR C/F flights in the same time period and yes the 1 - 2 - 1 setups are even better.
But tt say LH is "awful", bad and so on, well no. Economy is awful, however evidence proves that it is survivable by millions every day.
Most of the complaints about LH C are "having another person next to me" - such hardship - or "having to lift a leg to climb over someone" - don't book a window seat if this is soooo terrible for you.
I am always very thankful to be able to fly business class. I recommend getting a seat at least 2 rows away from a toilet/galley as it is quieter. But even being near a toilet/galley will not make it a bad flight, just maybe not as great as it could have been.
May 5, 2018, 1:49 pm
#335
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Yes, that is THE issue, when you don’t book the window seat you have someone else climbing over you.... Other J products out there offer single seats for Solo pax, LH is just fine for couples 😊
May 5, 2018, 3:12 pm
#336
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Agree with Chris63, the LH seat - while not state of the art - is fine for couples. Leg and footroom will not be a problem for you.
I enjoy LH service and meals, but I'm sorry, the seat is seriously subpar compared to the competition. It's narrow, difficult to adjust into a comfortable lounging position, and - most problematic - lacks privacy if you are a solo traveler.
I enjoy LH service and meals, but I'm sorry, the seat is seriously subpar compared to the competition. It's narrow, difficult to adjust into a comfortable lounging position, and - most problematic - lacks privacy if you are a solo traveler.
May 6, 2018, 6:35 pm
#337
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: LH M&M, BA EC, DL SM
Posts: 5,731
And I have to say I sleep better in LH J than in LX J, just hate the seat arrangement when traveling by myself.
Jun 14, 2018, 2:21 pm
#338
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: SJJ/AMS
Posts: 4,647
Of course!
It‘s only become quite clear in this thread that they introduced a - for a change true - enhancement of hard product and in the wake of it are still struggling for some consistency or at least pattern.
Having said that, while their J class may or may not be rock solid, they definitely have one of the most consistent products anyway. So I’d happily cut them some slack for the first weeks of PJ-tops and be willing to “risk” not getting one while still enjoying an otherwise reliable flight - in row 83...😉
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Jun 15, 2018, 3:30 am
#339
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Seattle
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SEA-FRA
The FRA-SEA flight I can understand being considered a day flight since you leave during the day and arrive during the day.
But the SEA-FRA while leaves during the day, you arrive early the next morning, so you’d think this would count as an “overnight” flight to a degree. This would really help because a matters pad with comfortable betting would be greatly appreciated as someone who wants to try and get on German time with an early nap. Someone mentioned in my other thread they were given all the overnight stuff on the SEA-FRA flight, but it sure would be nice if this could be confirmed by alicorporateuk
Thanks
But the SEA-FRA while leaves during the day, you arrive early the next morning, so you’d think this would count as an “overnight” flight to a degree. This would really help because a matters pad with comfortable betting would be greatly appreciated as someone who wants to try and get on German time with an early nap. Someone mentioned in my other thread they were given all the overnight stuff on the SEA-FRA flight, but it sure would be nice if this could be confirmed by alicorporateuk
Thanks
Last edited by NWplatinum; Jun 15, 2018 at 3:36 am
Jun 15, 2018, 6:03 am
#340
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 636
... and I can see why. But 2-2 matters less and, depending on relationship status, might even be enjoyable 😉 if traveling with a partner.
Jun 15, 2018, 7:04 am
#341
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: LH M&M, BA EC, DL SM
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When traveling with a companion, LH layout is great, as you get window and aisle as well as sitting next to each other. Unlike F, where you have to make the decision between window and adjacent seats. For traveling by yourself, the situation is exactly reversed.
Jun 15, 2018, 3:11 pm
#342
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Location: Seattle
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And how’s the grub?
Jun 15, 2018, 3:36 pm
#343
Join Date: Feb 2013
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Jun 15, 2018, 4:02 pm
#344
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Location: Seattle
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How do you select your meals in advance?
Jun 15, 2018, 11:08 pm
#345
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LH J Food, Amenities SEA-FRA in Advance?
This is my second time ever flying LH so I have absolutely no idea about what their services are. I’m flying SEA-FRA, and I’m wondering if you’re allowed to reserve meals, or view the menu and reserve a meal off it in advance?
Secondly, technically this is an overnight flight even if you leave at 1:50pm, you arrive the next day in FRA at 8:30am. I for one would like to try and get on German time and try to sleep after lunch. I have heard conflicting reports whether they provide the mattress pads and blankets on this flight. Does anyone know if it’s hit or miss, or it’s policy for them to offer their bedding on this segment?
Thank you
Secondly, technically this is an overnight flight even if you leave at 1:50pm, you arrive the next day in FRA at 8:30am. I for one would like to try and get on German time and try to sleep after lunch. I have heard conflicting reports whether they provide the mattress pads and blankets on this flight. Does anyone know if it’s hit or miss, or it’s policy for them to offer their bedding on this segment?
Thank you