capedreamer

That's perfect. Thanks! I like aisle access as I have to use the bathroom embarrassingly frequently.

The last 2 times on LH long-haul, I was in 7B on the A359, with 7A unoccupied both times. Will monitor the seatmap in this case to see if I can remain lucky.

deniah

I think LH's seat is objectively inferior, compared to most in industry:
(1) no guaranteed aisle access
(2) little privacy and quite "intimate" arrangement for seat pairs
(3) a bit lumpy in bed mode

That said, I do think some people over-scrutinize the flying experience. Food quality is basically the same across all prominent carriers, save for TK which is but a hair ahead.
A flight is just that -- a means of transport. As long as as there is no consistent muck-up in the service (terribly slow, terribly rude, etc), it's basically all the same. I can't be bothered to compare which carrier serves more nuts, or has more fanciful hand lotion.
When I'm traveling with a partner, #1 and #2 above doesn't matter. I'm an easy sleeper so long as my legs stretch out, so #3 isn't a worry either. If the route/time is good, and price is competitive, it passes the test for me.

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worldclubber

Exactly: for me, it comes down to route/time as the key factor for most of my flights.

Hate to climb over another passenger from my window seat in J when travelling alone, but usually have to do that once (or twice on long flights) per flight. Would I be prepared to accept a much less convenient route/time to avoid this one climb? Rather not.

worldclubber

Well, unless you get stuck in one of their many 777, which has a terrible J product. As with many other carriers, inconsistency is a real problem when flying Qatar.

KLeM

I've had some ups and downs with LH flights in business class. Here is a small recap and my findings.

• In general the seats are quite ok. I sleep better in them than in the diamond seat other airlines use. The only problem is the narrow area for my feet.
• Seat layout is a bit inconvenient and not ideal for relaxing, working or sleeping as those near windows have to climb over to get to the aisle and there is not much privacy. On the other side I'm pleased all seats are now full flat as some airlines still use recliners in J.
• Quite a few seat issues where it wouldn't recline properly and once the air filled seat was deflated and since both F and J were full I was stuck sleeping on some blankets but it was still very hard and there are some thick wires running through the seat which hurt - never received compensation for it either.
• Once my seat from Vancouver was covered in chocolate covered rice cracker bits and pieces from a previous guest and a bag of trash left under the foot support so my seat was apparently not cleaned at all. Stewardess just ignored my complaint. No apologies or compensation.
• Sometimes they close the front toilets for unknown reasons leaving only two toilets for the entire business class which can cause some jams prior to landing.
• Amenities are quite ok, but nothing fancy. Lufthansa has the best sleep mask of all airlines.
• Best LH news for years is the introduction of sleep mattresses and different blankets on 10.5+ hour flights, I hope they soon introduce them on shorter flights also as it adds a lot to the comfort and convenience.
• Service in general is quite consistent as in that they come to take your coat, purses says hello, pre-flight drink. Nothing amazing but not rude or poor like other airlines.
• The food is horrible so apart from some dayflights to the US I mostly just try to fix my sleep deficit by sleeping the entire flight and not eat anything on board.
• The internet is ok but not very fast and quite expensive at 25+ euro per flight.
• Priority boarding on longhaul is usually quite well organized.
• Lounges: I prefer the lounge at LAX. Great roof terrace with views of LA. No LH or *A lounge near the gate in HKG which is really annoying since the Singapore Airlines lounge is always full.

Vixit

San Gottardo

I presume there is no major difference between the J class experience on the LH A350 vs. the B744? I know, there is the upper deck, but other than that the seats and other hardware is identical. Or isn't it? Is one of the two to be preferred?

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MichielR

worldclubber

oliver2002

A359 business is a bit updated: new screens with Panasonix ex3 IFE and the arm rest stows away differently (makes a big difference to adress the perception that the B/E diamond seat feels narrow).

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San Gottardo

I think you finding UA great across the Atlantic may indeed have to do with lack of having tried other airlines. Yes, they have a few Polaris-equipped planes. But the majority are not. Which leaves you with seats that aren't better than LH, on top of that you have terrible FAs (unless you like the back-tapping style of badly groomed overweight mates and gals who make you feel guilty when you have perfectly reasonable request such as second pillow, another drink), horrible food, IFE that has a bias towards brain-dead action movies, no PJ/mattress on long flights like LH... really, I can't see what's great about it.

Try LX. Try OS a bit more often. Try AF 777s with the BEST product.

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