Mar 8, 2013, 4:49 am
Last edit by: NewbieRunner
Basics about the evoucher:
Number of eVouchers needed per segment:
- Upgrade a shorthaul segment = 1 eVoucher
- Upgrade a longhaul segment (Longhaul= LH400-799)
- From Economy Class (other than K, L, T) to Business Class = 2 eVouchers
- From Economy Class K, L, T to Business Class = 3 eVouchers
- From Economy Class (other than K, L, T) to Premium Economy Class = 1 eVoucher
- From Economy Class K, L, T to Premium Economy Class = 2 eVouchers
- From Premium Economy G, E to Business Class = 1 eVoucher
- From Premium Economy N to Business Class = 2 eVouchers
- From Business Class to First Class = 2 eVouchers (although the website says 3 eVouchers, it will be corrected in due course)
Upgrade awards may be booked online with LH, OS, LX, SN, LO and Discover, or you can call to upgrade.
Alternatively, you can book at the check-in counter. Not all airlines offer immediate upgrades at the airport.
Evouchers can be used on any ticketed PNR, even if the flight operates after the date of expiry of the evoucher.
Evouchers can be redeemed with all Star Alliance partners - depending on the destination, airline, travel class and booking class.
For a list of award regions go to https://www.miles-and-more.com/row/e...formation.html and scroll down to select Your worldwide flight destinations with Miles & More.
How long do eVouchers remain valid?
- All eVouchers are valid for 24 months.
- none of your eVouchers will expire until 31.03.2024. This also applies to eVouchers that were re-credited after the cancellation of a flight.
With an eVoucher, you travel one class higher [link to general eVoucher information]
Number of eVouchers needed per segment:
- Upgrade a shorthaul segment = 1 eVoucher
- Upgrade a longhaul segment (Longhaul= LH400-799)
- From Economy Class (other than K, L, T) to Business Class = 2 eVouchers
- From Economy Class K, L, T to Business Class = 3 eVouchers
- From Economy Class (other than K, L, T) to Premium Economy Class = 1 eVoucher
- From Economy Class K, L, T to Premium Economy Class = 2 eVouchers
- From Premium Economy G, E to Business Class = 1 eVoucher
- From Premium Economy N to Business Class = 2 eVouchers
- From Business Class to First Class = 2 eVouchers (although the website says 3 eVouchers, it will be corrected in due course)
Upgrade awards may be booked online with LH, OS, LX, SN, LO and Discover, or you can call to upgrade.
Alternatively, you can book at the check-in counter. Not all airlines offer immediate upgrades at the airport.
Evouchers can be used on any ticketed PNR, even if the flight operates after the date of expiry of the evoucher.
Evouchers can be redeemed with all Star Alliance partners - depending on the destination, airline, travel class and booking class.
For a list of award regions go to https://www.miles-and-more.com/row/e...formation.html and scroll down to select Your worldwide flight destinations with Miles & More.
How long do eVouchers remain valid?
- All eVouchers are valid for 24 months.
- none of your eVouchers will expire until 31.03.2024. This also applies to eVouchers that were re-credited after the cancellation of a flight.
With an eVoucher, you travel one class higher [link to general eVoucher information]
Miles & More eVoucher upgrade Questions [merged Q&A]
Jun 8, 2013, 8:02 am
#241
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My experience is that SEN status makes you jump the WL and get pushed to the top automatically and once the revenue management does its monthly calculations you get your upgrade. So if there is a reclaculation left in June, life will be good for any SEN listed with (anyones) evoucher
Jun 8, 2013, 8:23 am
#242
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Yes, plus NR was HON at the time, that helped clear up things instantly
My experience is that SEN status makes you jump the WL and get pushed to the top automatically and once the revenue management does its monthly calculations you get your upgrade. So if there is a reclaculation left in June, life will be good for any SEN listed with (anyones) evoucher
My experience is that SEN status makes you jump the WL and get pushed to the top automatically and once the revenue management does its monthly calculations you get your upgrade. So if there is a reclaculation left in June, life will be good for any SEN listed with (anyones) evoucher
However, I believe you could be unlucky and end up talking to a clueless agent.
Jun 8, 2013, 9:22 am
#243
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I don't talk to any agent. My TA does the upgrades and sometimes they clear, sometimes not. Assume it was the same that you used.
I don't talk to any agent. My TA does the upgrades and sometimes they clear, sometimes not. Assume it was the same that you used
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Jun 8, 2013, 9:42 am
#244
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Jun 8, 2013, 10:06 am
#245
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: OSL/IAH/ZRH (time, not preference)
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But by murdering ugs from Z and crippling earnings from P&Z, SENhood became unaffordable and non-viable for me. So from 2014 onward, I shall be a smelly, little FTL.
But that is LH, not LX, right?
Jun 8, 2013, 10:37 am
#246
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Jun 8, 2013, 12:16 pm
#247
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM-SIN-EWR
Programs: UA*G (1K again), Sixt Plat, *was*: SQ QPP01 & SK EBS/EBG, LH SEN, AA EXP, 9wPlat
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I just called the USA SEN desk, who told me that codeshare flights on LH metal *would not* be able to be upgraded at check-in (at the airport), regardless.
Has LH's policy now changed to prevent us from using our LH (relatively useless) instruments at the airport?
Has LH's policy now changed to prevent us from using our LH (relatively useless) instruments at the airport?
Jun 9, 2013, 12:02 am
#248
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Would be a nice icing on the crap-cake codeshares are already these days. No proper seat assignment, no advance upgrade, it takes a Ph.D. to calculate the mile earnings, and an AK47 to convince M&M to actually credit them afterward.
They are like a pitch filled burning moat without a bridge. Just the "do not use under any circumstance" sign went missing somehow.
Jun 9, 2013, 1:05 am
#249
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM-SIN-EWR
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Probably as has already overbooked their flight/s and UA has not been advised of this as of yet.
*Or* they have sold off / allocated inventory to UA and/or OTA's who are also showing these flights...
Jun 9, 2013, 1:32 am
#250
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM-SIN-EWR
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Not sure why, but LH won't even sell that set of flights on their own website!
Probably as has already overbooked their flight/s and UA has not been advised of this as of yet.
*Or* they have sold off / allocated inventory to UA and/or OTA's who are also showing these flights...
Probably as has already overbooked their flight/s and UA has not been advised of this as of yet.
*Or* they have sold off / allocated inventory to UA and/or OTA's who are also showing these flights...
Edited to Add:Called SEN line in FRA and they were able to allocate the seats ^, as the online system wouldn't allow the FF change for some reason. However, she is *also* confirming that no LH instruments possible to upgrade codeshares - very interesting - will probably not be flying much LH then in the future...
Last edited by SuperFlyBoy; Jun 9, 2013 at 2:01 am
Jun 9, 2013, 2:12 am
#251
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM-SIN-EWR
Programs: UA*G (1K again), Sixt Plat, *was*: SQ QPP01 & SK EBS/EBG, LH SEN, AA EXP, 9wPlat
Posts: 8,606
Edited to Add:Called SEN line in FRA and they were able to allocate the seats ^, as the online system wouldn't allow the FF change for some reason. However, she is *also* confirming that no LH instruments possible to upgrade codeshares - very interesting - will probably not be flying much LH then in the future...
Went back into M&M.com and reselected seat for first sector - seems it has stuck.
I might just cancel this and book with a TA if they can see the LH flights - no need to sit in Y with instruments that I have in hand!
Jun 9, 2013, 2:22 am
#252
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: OSL/IAH/ZRH (time, not preference)
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I am much more surprised that you a) mess around with codeshares in the face of your extensive exprience and b) that you dare to online check-in and the likes after your received the email....
Jun 9, 2013, 2:24 am
#253
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM-SIN-EWR
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Wasn't really OLCI, but rather seat allocation online with M&M...just trying to get the PQM from UA on my cc, but not really worth it these days, eh?
(And LH.com won't show the direct BOM-EWR UA flight - but they don't even show their own outbound flights available!)
Last edited by SuperFlyBoy; Jun 9, 2013 at 2:42 am
Jun 10, 2013, 2:37 am
#254
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It is correct that it is not technically possible to use evouchers on a codeshare.
Jun 10, 2013, 2:43 am
#255
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM-SIN-EWR
Programs: UA*G (1K again), Sixt Plat, *was*: SQ QPP01 & SK EBS/EBG, LH SEN, AA EXP, 9wPlat
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