NewbieRunner

When you have eVouchers expiring "soon" you see a message as reported earlier in this thread. It's not clear how long before expiry this message starts appearing.

TRAVELSIG

I have no message appearing and by my calculations either 6 or 8 evouchers expiring this year on 31 DEC if I am not mistaken.

NA-Flyer

You should burn them ASAP or hand them out @:-)

NewbieRunner

People with eVouchers expiring at the end of June saw a message in their account in January as reported in this thread.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...l#post19991461

Soliciting eVouchers is against FT TOS.

TRAVELSIG

I would really like to burn them.

My challenge has been that the only time I really like to use evouchers is with Ms. Travelsig- and we keep booking Z fares which are not upgradeable on LH. With two people travelling together on leisure- the cost differential between Z and D for a vacation is about 2500 EUR total on average at least and in the last case I checked 3700 EUR more. When the difference is this high we just book EK F and put up with the fake wood panelling and gold and the better experience avoiding the totally regrettable new FRA which somehow managed to become even worse than the old (mind boggling).

N1003U

Enhanced Z fares seems an almost universal topic when I get into casual conversations with people who turn out to be LH status customers (and in some cases ex-LH status customers ).

Between the enhanced mileage earning and lack of upgradability on Z fares (are Z fares still changeable against a 250€ fee when Z is still available?), I wonder if LH understands how much business they are driving to the competitors they like to complain about. Z fares used to be for me one of the most attractive features of the LH fare structure--to me a great trade off of a lower fare for limited flexibility.

And it is not as if Z fares have not steeply increased. Another enhancement in LH pricing is 3.000€+ TATL fares (that only a couple years ago were about 1.900€) often book into P, while a Z fares are typically almost 4.000€ (and C/D >4.500€). I can understand the 1.499€ specials being highly restrictive with P rules, but when I can't upgrade a 3.000€ - 4.000€ fare on even a wait-list basis, then my money goes to EK, CX or even occasionally to DL/AF.

Does it seem as if LH making their best effort to drive away bargain-hunting premium customers who will within reason trade price against restrictive rules? Given the incentives, it seems LH is trying to reduce their share of the business-class market.

Or put yourself in the situation I found myself recently: you can pay ~3.200€ for a P-fare (non-refundable, non changeable), or ~1.700€ for a Y-fare (fully refundable, fully changeable) that can be upgraded instantly (since I have eVouchers to burn), and BTW earns 50% more M&M status/award miles. Does LH prefer that I spend 1.700€ instead of 3.200€ to sit in the same seat?

It seems sometimes as if LH tries to discourage me from spending more money with them...and yet they whine that the competitors are eating their lunch...

TRAVELSIG

Agreed.
Also the product of LH is not always very competitive.

brightonflyer

Hi ya

Know this will have been dealt with a thousand times over but can any one let me know how far I can travel with 2 e-vouchers going to Australia

Know that it'll get me an upgrade going to Bangkok but will they allow me to change planes and continue on to Singapore as one sector still with the upgrade ??

Being a bit hopeful but any thoughts on how to get rid if these pesky 2 e- vouchers due to expire end of July much appreciated

Happy travels my friends

:-)

oliver2002

You can upgrade one longhaul flight number, so if its YY99 that flies XXX-YYY 'direct' with a tech stop someplace you are in luck, but those are far and few between in *A.

Lack

An example, with a hop on and off in BKK would be the tag on to KUL.

NewbieRunner

Are you sure your e-Vouchers expire at the end of July? That was what most of us believed when the expiry of e-Vouchers was first announced but it's turned out that old e-Vouchers expire after 30 June rather than at the end of July.

If you received your e-Vouchers in July 2011 I believe they will expire in (or presumably at the end of) July 2013.

NA-Flyer

Luckily I burned all my e-vouchers, which are suppose to expire at the end of June on LX

TRAVELSIG

How can anyone be sure? At least on my account I still don't even see an expiry date which is a truly customer unfriendly decision by this company.

oliver2002

If you have any vouchers expiring this year, the (online) mileage statement will clearly mention that x evouchers on your account will exipre on 30 June 2013.

pmcg

Thanks for the tip, just noticed I've got 3 e-vouchers, one of which expires on 30/06/2013 and no Star plans unless you count Germanwings Time for CC for me perhaps then.