Jun 26, 2018, 12:52 pm
Last edit by: Tokyoite
Corona related JAL announcements page link.
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/other/200228/
Just to kick start a wiki, with answers to frequent questions.A: Yes. written here (link) A. Definitely, within the lounge access rules of course. written here (link)
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/other/200228/
Just to kick start a wiki, with answers to frequent questions.
1. We're flying HND-NGO-HNL. NGO-HNL is booked in business class, but HND-NGO is in economy. Will we still get the baggage allowance as if we're flying business class the whole way?
2. We're flying HND-NGO-HNL. Will we have lounge access in HND?
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Sep 14, 2019, 6:37 am
#3181
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 43
Yes. 1A/K are reserved for OWE/Diamonds/VIPs, and is only released at the airport.
You might get lucky if your travel agents has good connection with JAL, and can put in a favor for you (as you are a "VIP") to get them prior to OLCI.
Main thing is, these are prestigious seats (for JAL clientele) and JAL doesn't want to "offend" its elites/VIPs by having the seat taken before the said elite/VIP does check in.
(A nascent form of DKNWIA).
Oh, and VIP dont generally bother with OLCI, so that's why they remain blocked until at the airport
(when the airline has a good idea of the profile of passengers on the flight and can decide to release the seats).
Best way is to go to the airport 2 or so hours before checkin, if you really want 1A/K.
You might get lucky if your travel agents has good connection with JAL, and can put in a favor for you (as you are a "VIP") to get them prior to OLCI.
Main thing is, these are prestigious seats (for JAL clientele) and JAL doesn't want to "offend" its elites/VIPs by having the seat taken before the said elite/VIP does check in.
(A nascent form of DKNWIA).
Oh, and VIP dont generally bother with OLCI, so that's why they remain blocked until at the airport
(when the airline has a good idea of the profile of passengers on the flight and can decide to release the seats).
Best way is to go to the airport 2 or so hours before checkin, if you really want 1A/K.
Sep 14, 2019, 8:39 am
#3182
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,178
As redemptions normally don't qualify for 1A in advance, I would say there is a risk. Unless you book very last minute that is.
Sep 14, 2019, 9:37 am
#3183
Ambassador: Japan Airlines
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: LAX
Programs: JAL Mileage Bank, JMB Diamond, oneworld Emerald, Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 16,399
Are you sure that’s still the case after amadeus? I really hope they add back the fate based seat availability if that’s been removed after amadeus
Sep 14, 2019, 10:23 am
#3184
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,178
Sep 14, 2019, 2:53 pm
#3185
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 43
This was booked back in Feb and I was able to select 1A on the outbound from LHR and 1A/1K were available in the inbound (although I went with 2K), and it's still there. Anyway, I hope it sticks, and I'll make sure to OLCI as soon as it opens.
Sep 14, 2019, 3:57 pm
#3186
Ambassador: Japan Airlines
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: LAX
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Posts: 16,399
Sep 14, 2019, 10:12 pm
#3187
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,178
Sep 19, 2019, 8:18 am
#3190
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 49
Hello folks.
I'm a recent convert to JAL (I previously had status with American and Qantas, but realized they were both pretty useless programs). I currently have about 63k FLYON points and am looking to get up to 80k (for JGC Premier status) with a trip to Japan in December.
Do you have any suggestions for how to get there?
I live in Oz, so I was thinking to book some JAL Explorer Pass flights, but I've found conflicting information online.
Do these explorer pass flights earn at 50% (class G, per JAL's website), or are they "full fare" (which I've seen referred to on this forum)? Are there any caveats to be aware of?
Any advice is appreciated. Or if you have any other creative ideas, even more so!
I'm a recent convert to JAL (I previously had status with American and Qantas, but realized they were both pretty useless programs). I currently have about 63k FLYON points and am looking to get up to 80k (for JGC Premier status) with a trip to Japan in December.
Do you have any suggestions for how to get there?
I live in Oz, so I was thinking to book some JAL Explorer Pass flights, but I've found conflicting information online.
Do these explorer pass flights earn at 50% (class G, per JAL's website), or are they "full fare" (which I've seen referred to on this forum)? Are there any caveats to be aware of?
Any advice is appreciated. Or if you have any other creative ideas, even more so!
Sep 19, 2019, 9:50 am
#3191
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: New York City
Programs: JGC
Posts: 445
Hello folks.
I'm a recent convert to JAL (I previously had status with American and Qantas, but realized they were both pretty useless programs). I currently have about 63k FLYON points and am looking to get up to 80k (for JGC Premier status) with a trip to Japan in December.
Do you have any suggestions for how to get there?
I live in Oz, so I was thinking to book some JAL Explorer Pass flights, but I've found conflicting information online.
Do these explorer pass flights earn at 50% (class G, per JAL's website), or are they "full fare" (which I've seen referred to on this forum)? Are there any caveats to be aware of?
Any advice is appreciated. Or if you have any other creative ideas, even more so!
I'm a recent convert to JAL (I previously had status with American and Qantas, but realized they were both pretty useless programs). I currently have about 63k FLYON points and am looking to get up to 80k (for JGC Premier status) with a trip to Japan in December.
Do you have any suggestions for how to get there?
I live in Oz, so I was thinking to book some JAL Explorer Pass flights, but I've found conflicting information online.
Do these explorer pass flights earn at 50% (class G, per JAL's website), or are they "full fare" (which I've seen referred to on this forum)? Are there any caveats to be aware of?
Any advice is appreciated. Or if you have any other creative ideas, even more so!
Also, JAL domestic flights that are part of international itineraries (e.g. the NRT-> ITM segment of a SYD -> NRT -> ITM booking) earn at 100%. Has to be on the same ticket. You can upgrade to Class J at the airport, I think you get Class J by default if your international segments are in J or above. Not sure if F is bookable online but can probably upgrade at the airport too.
Sep 19, 2019, 10:14 am
#3192
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 49
To clarify, this is before adding the 2x multiplier for domestic JAL flights? I find this confusing, because their website lists G fare as 50% earning (https://www.jal.co.jp/cgi-bin/jal/mi..._mile_save.cgi). I can see how it could be 100% if you're taking
"base miles * 50% * 2 (domestic multiplier) = base miles * 100%",
but you and others on this forum seem to be saying it's
"base * 100% * 2 = base * 200%".
Or am I misunderstanding?
Sep 19, 2019, 10:50 am
#3193
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: BOS
Programs: JMB, AMC
Posts: 178
My previous trips with standard JEP, no upgrades I got as stated by mhy as well.
(Base * 100%) Miles
(Base * 100% * 2) FOP
Booking class is listed as G, but I think as long as it's booked through the JEP fare portal, the system knows to give you 100% base miles.
(Base * 100%) Miles
(Base * 100% * 2) FOP
Booking class is listed as G, but I think as long as it's booked through the JEP fare portal, the system knows to give you 100% base miles.
Sep 19, 2019, 2:29 pm
#3194
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: New York City
Programs: JGC
Posts: 445
Thank you!
To clarify, this is before adding the 2x multiplier for domestic JAL flights? I find this confusing, because their website lists G fare as 50% earning (https://www.jal.co.jp/cgi-bin/jal/mi..._mile_save.cgi). I can see how it could be 100% if you're taking
"base miles * 50% * 2 (domestic multiplier) = base miles * 100%",
but you and others on this forum seem to be saying it's
"base * 100% * 2 = base * 200%".
Or am I misunderstanding?
To clarify, this is before adding the 2x multiplier for domestic JAL flights? I find this confusing, because their website lists G fare as 50% earning (https://www.jal.co.jp/cgi-bin/jal/mi..._mile_save.cgi). I can see how it could be 100% if you're taking
"base miles * 50% * 2 (domestic multiplier) = base miles * 100%",
but you and others on this forum seem to be saying it's
"base * 100% * 2 = base * 200%".
Or am I misunderstanding?
Sep 19, 2019, 7:47 pm
#3195
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 49
Thank you both, very helpful!
On a related note, I was hoping to combine the JEP with the current double-FOP-month promotion (where you get to select 1 month of the year when your FOP are doubled). But it looks like I can't register for this December, as I just earned my status this year. The way the requirements are written, it seems you can only get this the year after the one in which you qualify. Has anyone experienced this?
On a related note, I was hoping to combine the JEP with the current double-FOP-month promotion (where you get to select 1 month of the year when your FOP are doubled). But it looks like I can't register for this December, as I just earned my status this year. The way the requirements are written, it seems you can only get this the year after the one in which you qualify. Has anyone experienced this?