Why should you not pay the best flex rate when using the BOGO? You are getting a free night and the rate is still lower than booking two nights an an advanced non-flex rate. I am looking at the IC in Sydney next month for a rate that is even lower than some of the HIs and CPs in the city. I will get my RA benefits including an upgrade to Club. For about $140 a night I am getting a rom that goes for over $380-$400. This is now consistent with the required rate for the Ambassador weekend BOGOs and I have no objections to paying that either in exchange for the benefits that I get. Hotels have to make money or they won't be able to stay in business and pay their staff a decent wage, thus letting us benefit from programs like PP and RA.

And I reject that as being of any real relevance, for the reasons previously stated. You appear to be saying that you find lies acceptable and blame the consumer if they don't check on the lies independently. Unless you'd like to justify that stance in more detail, you're not going to get anywhere.

It could be informative if you were to answer morepointsplease's question about QF status, though.

I can not access the website today. Happne to anyone else?

Regards

Anything over 30% discount usually does not get points outside of APAC, PP BOGO can be used any day, its not restricted to no suite use and you can get around 20-30 days for free depending on your needs when staying in Australia.

In essence I get the family and friends rate but with full points earning and full RA privileges, I get to dine in hotels at half price when eating with clients for an effective cost of under $200 for the year. The average rate I have paid at an IC is USD100 a night in Australia, if you can better that with full RA privileges as well as points let me know (and how to do it on a non corp rate), and its those points that have been used to get back to being a Qantas Plat, 300000 PC points = 60000 QF points = 480 SC's if you know that value of your money when its well spent ;).

I should disclose that I was a Priority Privilege foundation member when it was started as part of SPHG 15 years ago, which Bass Hotel (ICHG) took over, when they did I moved to SPG and quickly became plat, with the loss of a lot of SPG properties I went back to ICH 4 years ago and rejoined PP with a phone number thats disconnected. I dont condone or wish to defend the actions of the PP telemarketers, but the program makes sense for me and my travel patterns.

First, the Best Flex Rate (BFR) is not the same as the Rack Rate. The Rack Rate is seldom if ever posted for booking on the ICH sites. Second, the BFR is seldom more than 20% that of the Advance Purchase Rate (APR), the least expensive and least flexible rate on the ICH/PP site. The BOGO Rate is fully flexible. The only rates below those offered on the ICH/PP site are through third party sites and for the most part do not earn PC points or stay credits for elite status.

If you can prove with actual dates when the BFR is twice that of the APR, and I dare say even most broker rates where one can actually select the property, then please post it here. Otherwise, your statement is incorrect as it applied to the valid rates for use of the PP BOGO.

And you and others seem to also overlook the 25% cert discount of the BFR which offers a lower rate than the general APR, but with the flexibility of the BFR. And the always-available without cert 10% discount off either the BFR or APR.

In my experience the average daily rate using the BOGO is usually lower than what is available using any other published rate. In addition, I do not believe that the Best Flex rate (as used by the BOGO) and the rack rate are the same thing.

I do find value in the program, and have been a member for a number of years, but certainly appreciate that a big downside to the program is the telemarketing aspects, with the sales people spinning the program in all manner of ways in order to achieve a sale - this I think reflects poorly on the program

I understand the 300000 to 60000 PC to QFF transfer. But how does that earn 480 QFF SCs?

Yaeh, I'd be interested to find out, too..:confused:

Use it for a well routed Business Class Any Seat Award and the SC's are easily earnt.

Easily? OK, but 480 SCs? Could you give an example of how 60,000 QFF points could be used for an Any Seat Award that earns anywhere near 480 SCs?

(unless the targeted double SCs promotion is counted in?)

Edit: I *think* I see it. If you are QFF Platinum:

MEL-BNE-CNS return in J on an Anytime Award: Costs:72,000 QFF points (+ AUD 232.49 in taxes). Earns:7,760 QFF points and 240 QFF SCs.

So nett points cost is 64,240 and with the double targeted SC promotion, 480 SCs could be earned.

But you need to be QFF Platinum already and have been targeted. If you bought the above ticket it would cost AUD 2883.00. Are 300,000 PC points worth more than 60,000 QFF points is the question I suppose.

Double SC's are counted in as I am part of the promo, I am SG and I have spent the 62000 points without any extra cash to get 480 SC's, and it requires a stay for one night in a town that has an ICHG property :) , if you take off the 5000 points for the loyalty bonus and the 5000 odd actual miles flown its really 50000 points for 480 SC's.

I dont normally convert points to miles, but while there is some weird redemptions available with QF that count in terms of elite status, I am taking advantage of the situation while it lasts, J flying is really tiresome :rolleyes:. AFAIK this particular run does not seem to have the cost of its leg added to the cost of the interim stop, and they are both 120SC legs in J.

BTW the new specials are out - note the Club is now open in FIji and HI Potts Point have a 50% off no cert required - also seems to have far more BOGO no cert offers this month - not a bad thing.

http://www.priorityprivilege.com/PPA...nentalAdelaide

I know this is a little OT but just to elaborate what markis10 is saying. Next week I am using 123,238 QF points to earn 680 SC's and 22,150 points. ie effective cost 101,088 QF points.

Using the many Priority Privilege promos and benefits through the Priority Club system has helped me earn these QF points that I'm now spending on a trip that I was planning to do in any case. ie it has a purpose and is not simply a status run.

Priority Privilege does work if you bother to spend a little time on research.

regards,

Bill

Better watch out or PC will start coming after Australian accounts and those belonging to people with the first name of Bruce! ;)

Way too obtuse for me. I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about! :confused:

Value of PP: $850 less $285
 

So I am heading down to Oz for the holiday week at the end of this month (Canada's July 1st and the USA's 4th) and to take advantage of a very attractive UA fare (Quasimodo-MR at C$1300 a/i YYZ-ORD-SFO-SYD-SFO-YYZ). I have booked two BOGO 2-night stays at The IC Sydney, Club level at $350 a night: $1400 for $700 minus the $280 paid for the PP membership, plus the two meal/room charges credits totaling $150 -- no use for the breakfast credit this trip worth another $50 to $75 -- for a net savings of $520 this trip alone.

During my membership period last year, I had similar savings over three visits and benefited from two BOGO promos that didn't require me to actually hand over the BOGO. So to our doubter(s), this program really delivers the goods even for someone who doesn't live in Australia and just visits once or twice a year.