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oliver2002 Jan 4, 2013 4:54 am


Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL (Post 19971520)
It's very easy to tell: 3 digit flight numbers beginning with 0, 1, 2, 3 and 9 are international.

Flights beginning with 0 are domestic flights which connect into AI's international flight bank. Flights beginning with 1 go westward (from India), beginning with 2 go to SAARC countries, beginning with 3 go eastward (from India), and beginning with 9 go to the gulf.


You mean to say they completely eliminated any legacy IC numbers? Did the pilots union approve such a indignity? :eek:

I remember taking AI from DEL to CCU way back when in 1994, beautiful A310 from Intl to Intl, where you got a piece of paper at immigration instead of showing your passport and being stamped out of the country. Immigration took it away on arrival and somehow customs in CCU was supposed to figure out that you had joined the flight in DEL and not come from LHR, nor were you continuing to HKG :p

A2A Jan 4, 2013 4:57 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 19972879)
You mean to say they completely eliminated any legacy IC numbers? Did the pilots union approve such a indignity? :eek:

I remember taking AI from DEL to CCU way back when in 1994, beautiful A310 from Intl to Intl, where you got a piece of paper at immigration instead of showing your passport and being stamped out of the country. Immigration took it away on arrival and somehow customs in CCU was supposed to figure out that you had joined the flight in DEL and not come from LHR, nor were you continuing to HKG :p

was that piece of paper something like the tokens we get when we go to the trial room to see if clothes fit... :p

regarding the 'somehow figure out bit', the boarding pass would do the trick no?

oliver2002 Jan 4, 2013 5:11 am


Originally Posted by A2A (Post 19972890)
was that piece of paper something like the tokens we get when we go to the trial room to see if clothes fit... :p

No, that wasn't it, although I know what you mean, we used to get those on longer technical stops flying CCU-SVO on SU when deplaning in various airports.


regarding the 'somehow figure out bit', the boarding pass would do the trick no?
Well, technically I could have taken a suitcase full of gold/booze/ecletronics/etc from an intl pax inflight and pass customs at exit. The BP wouldn't work as proof since I may have come in from CDG, FRA or ORD and boarded the LHR tag on in DEL, hence received a new DEL CCU BP ;)

SpeedFreak Jan 4, 2013 5:29 am


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 19972879)

Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL (Post 19971520)
It's very easy to tell: 3 digit flight numbers beginning with 0, 1, 2, 3 and 9 are international.

Flights beginning with 0 are domestic flights which connect into AI's international flight bank. Flights beginning with 1 go westward (from India), beginning with 2 go to SAARC countries, beginning with 3 go eastward (from India), and beginning with 9 go to the gulf.


You mean to say they completely eliminated any legacy IC numbers? Did the pilots union approve such a indignity? :eek:

I remember taking AI from DEL to CCU way back when in 1994, beautiful A310 from Intl to Intl, where you got a piece of paper at immigration instead of showing your passport and being stamped out of the country. Immigration took it away on arrival and somehow customs in CCU was supposed to figure out that you had joined the flight in DEL and not come from LHR, nor were you continuing to HKG :p


Yes it happened over night some time in feb 2 years back. There was slight resentment , talk of we will not let it happen blah blah but it actually transitioned pretty smoothly. Kind of a disgrace actually we didn't live up
To the name and make an issue out of it.

PVDtoDEL Jan 4, 2013 8:07 am


Originally Posted by jasepl (Post 19972829)
Stupid people. How dumb do they have to be to not know flights beginning with 2, 5, 6, 7 and 9 are international, flights beginning with 2, 4, 5 and 9 are connectors, flights beginning with 1, 3, 4 and 6 are domestic and flights beginning with 7 don't exist?

Can't blame AI at all here - it's all the passengers' fault, because knowing that is easy as pie and it's something that should come naturally, even more naturally than the ability to walk and talk. ;)

There is no need for the average passenger to know which flights are domestic and which flights are international. On your ticket, it clearly says BOM Terminal 1A, or BOM Terminal 2. Those who can comprehend the words on their ticket printout will get to the right place.

jasepl Jan 4, 2013 10:33 am

See, it's all the fult of the retarded fare-oaying passenggers. Idiots.

The hapless Air India just can't cath a breat, even when they do something right (which, of course, is all of the time).

Of course, in addition to all that's been said above, reality is rather different. Here's how AI's flights are listed - they seem to have phantom origins and destinations. Then shouldn't their flight numbers start with 7?

And at the airport, the display screens tell us AI flights are going to "International Convert" or coming from blank.

Oy vey.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v312/jasepl/aiwow.jpg


Originally Posted by SpeedFreak (Post 19972776)
And right there are the ricksha wallas in hordes telling pax don't waste time goin to the counter come here i will take you to international terminal it is only 15 min left for you to get there.

This is an everyday occurrence at 7 pm.

15 minutes from Santa Cruz to Sahar? At 7 in the evening? In a rickshaw?

Such lies! hahah!


Originally Posted by oliver2002 (Post 19972879)
You mean to say they completely eliminated any legacy IC numbers? Did the pilots union approve such a indignity? :eek:

I remember taking AI from DEL to CCU way back when in 1994, beautiful A310 from Intl to Intl, where you got a piece of paper at immigration instead of showing your passport and being stamped out of the country. Immigration took it away on arrival and somehow customs in CCU was supposed to figure out that you had joined the flight in DEL and not come from LHR, nor were you continuing to HKG :p

They still have those declarations: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ustomsdecl.jpg.

And the whole thing is a big farce.

SpeedFreak Jan 4, 2013 10:00 pm

Haha, both Those blanks are Ahmedabad arrivals. Maybe the airport ran out of display cards to spell AHMEDABAD. Bad bad airport. What is air India's fault!

A2A Jan 5, 2013 12:00 am


Originally Posted by jasepl (Post 19974733)

15 minutes from Santa Cruz to Sahar? At 7 in the evening? In a rickshaw?

Such lies! hahah!

you seem to live in town, you don't know the witch brooms the autowallahs don when the sun goes down.

jasepl Jan 5, 2013 3:47 am


Originally Posted by SpeedFreak (Post 19978834)
Haha, both Those blanks are Ahmedabad arrivals. Maybe the airport ran out of display cards to spell AHMEDABAD. Bad bad airport. What is air India's fault!

Oh that's from the Bombay airport website. And it's not restricted to Ahmedabad or to the website.

Even the display screens in the terminal say "Int'l Convert" under origin / destination.

Certainly doesn't help a situation that's confusing enough to far too many people already.

But then I suppose AI will come along to tell us that it's peoples' fault for being dumb and expecting the monitors to show the actual city name.

I'm not sure if it's legible, but see what the monitor above green pants says. The concourse monitors follow the same pattern.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...rcheckin01.jpg



Originally Posted by A2A (Post 19979193)
you seem to live in town, you don't know the witch brooms the autowallahs don when the sun goes down.

Haha! True. I am almost always safely south of Cumballa Hill, except on the increasingly rare occasion I have to go to the airport.

Although, I did move to Juhu for a while (dumbest idea I've had, and that's saying something), but that was many years ago.

I'm not sure I have the balls anymore to sit in a rickshaw that will get me from Santa Cruz to Sahar in 15 minutes during rush hour!

SpeedFreak Jan 5, 2013 11:31 am


Originally Posted by jasepl (Post 19979728)

Originally Posted by SpeedFreak (Post 19978834)
Haha, both Those blanks are Ahmedabad arrivals. Maybe the airport ran out of display cards to spell AHMEDABAD. Bad bad airport. What is air India's fault!

Oh that's from the Bombay airport website. And it's not restricted to Ahmedabad or to the website.

Even the display screens in the terminal say "Int'l Convert" under origin / destination.

Certainly doesn't help a situation that's confusing enough to far too many people already.

But then I suppose AI will come along to tell us that it's peoples' fault for being dumb and expecting the monitors to show the actual city name.

I'm not sure if it's legible, but see what the monitor above green pants says. The concourse monitors follow the same pattern.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...rcheckin01.jpg



Originally Posted by A2A (Post 19979193)
you seem to live in town, you don't know the witch brooms the autowallahs don when the sun goes down.

Haha! True. I am almost always safely south of Cumballa Hill, except on the increasingly rare occasion I have to go to the airport.

Although, I did move to Juhu for a while (dumbest idea I've had, and that's saying something), but that was many years ago.

I'm not sure I have the balls anymore to sit in a rickshaw that will get me from Santa Cruz to Sahar in 15 minutes during rush hour!

I am aware of the international convert screw up. Haven't bothered finding out whose idea it is and I agree it's pretty lame.

But even the passengers are super smart these days. 986 used to be mct-Bom-amd. Now they changed it to 986-130 for the same route and the aircraft also changes and a pax actually complained saying why are you troubling me its supposed to e the same aircraft and he refused to get down.

Whizkid Jan 6, 2013 12:51 am

I've few stays in ITC / Fortune properties in the next month. Should I enroll in Club ITC or credit the 250 miles per stay in JP account?

Any suggestions?

I looked at the Club ITC program - the earn rate was not clear : 3% of spend meaning, 3 points per 100 INR?

Flyfromscratch Jan 7, 2013 7:56 am

I have a few thousand points on my Amex Crop card, that I can transfer to JP Miles.. I am wondering should I transfer these now, before Amex makes any more changes to their corporate reward program, or should I wait for some more time..???

I somehow recall that earlier there was a promotion, that if you transfer points that convert to 10k or more miles, you get bonus miles.. I just can't seem to find it anywhere now.. or is that just my imagination..

SpeedFreak Jan 7, 2013 11:29 pm

Is it possible to get to bora bora (Papeete, PPT) on JP miles. More specifically till Auckland It should not be an issue for me because of other tickets. Am looking for the akl-ppt leg. I don't think it's possible looking at the website, but just wanted to confirm here. alternative suggestions also welcome.

Keyser Jan 8, 2013 12:22 am


Originally Posted by SpeedFreak (Post 19999547)
Is it possible to get to bora bora (Papeete, PPT) on JP miles. More specifically till Auckland It should not be an issue for me because of other tickets. Am looking for the akl-ppt leg. I don't think it's possible looking at the website, but just wanted to confirm here. alternative suggestions also welcome.

i don't think so....my wife & i went to bora bora for our honeymoon 6 years ago....at that point i managed to use my miles to get to auckland but after that we got a revenue ticket on air new zealand & air tahiti nui....

jasepl Jan 8, 2013 1:25 am


Originally Posted by SpeedFreak (Post 19999547)
Is it possible to get to bora bora (Papeete, PPT) on JP miles. More specifically till Auckland It should not be an issue for me because of other tickets. Am looking for the akl-ppt leg. I don't think it's possible looking at the website, but just wanted to confirm here. alternative suggestions also welcome.

Strange as it sounds since Jet hook it up with anyone and everyone, I don't think they have any partners that fly to Papeete (except AF, but that's through LAX).

I'm not sure if you will be able to use Jet points to get to PPT from New Zealand (unless you're willing to fly to Australia or Korea first, then to Los Angeles and then back down to Papeete!).


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