Aventine

The old Diamond conditions were more ambiguous and generous. These new ones basically give you whatever breakfast set the hotel serves and a beverage. The only hope here is that you don't go over too much and the hotel decided to waive the charges upon checkout.

Does that buy coffee and a muffin or just coffee?

rebyang

Globalist breakfast 2 adults + 2 kids my elder son (9yrs) eats almost as much as my wife. For Globalist member traveling with family, why Hyatt regards kid's breakfast fee only the half of the adult's?

Aventine

Which is odd because there's no kids menu.

Kacee

Because they needed to draw the line somewhere.

I'm no Hyatt defender, but this benefit is pretty costly to the properties and I don't really begrudge them reasonable limitations. It's certainly much better than any other program's breakfast benefit.

TommyboyCAN

We stayed here with our kids on Oct 8 and had a great time there. At check-in I was told you get $45/person including kids. Then at checkout I was told some variant like others mentioned. They honored the original recommendation. They do have a kids menu there which is quite good and the kids loved it. Now we went a little overboard at breakfast, but really enjoyed it and happily paid a little bit of difference. Most of the difference came from the $11 juices for the kids. =)

Great place and service overall! Really top notch!

mangoMan

So what happens if your kids are teens (ages 16 and 15 in my case)? Are they still considered kids? If not, does that imply no breakfast benefit?

PortlySpartacus

Well Mangoman, if you read the World of Hyatt T's & C's its somewhat clear:

Globalists will receive daily complimentary full breakfast (which includes one entrée or standard breakfast buffet, juice, and coffee, as well as tax, gratuity and service charges) for each registered guest in the room, up to a maximum of two (2) adults and two (2) children. The age cut-off for a “child” is determined by each hotel or resort in its sole discretion. (For stays at the Hyatt Regency Bethesda, Globalists will instead be provided with daily continental breakfast (tax and gratuity included) for each registered guest in the room, up to a maximum of two (2) adults and two (2) children.)

In the US, the definition of a child is usually under 18 years of age. However, in Europe, most hotels set the age at 12 and under. That's why it varies by hotel as stated above. I think you will find the PH NY will honor the policy of children under the age of 18. You are good, Bon Appétit

thegrailer

I have a stay in about 10 days and have a coffee question. As a GLOB, If I don't order 57th Street breakfast and order an entree and coffee (up to my $45 limit), am I charged per cup of coffee? Up thread, in a post or two, it reads as if coffee refills are not included. Did I misread that?

Brekkie entree + coffee = Brekkie entree + coffee + coffee refills?

Cheers

Aventine

I'm guessing they could sell it per cup like the juices. I just did the French press pot.

rebyang

When we ordered 2 coffee ($11 for each, total $22), they only gave us 2 coffee cups and one pot. I thought it would be 2 pots

bknets88

Instead of wasting $300 plus tax for 1 night credit. Matteres run a category 1 c and p for $50 plus tax

MarkOK

Yeah, but I plan on avoiding pure mattress running, and PH NYC maybe the hotel of choice for a stay there. It is nice to be able to pick up night credits during regular travel, and Pts+cash lets that occur while pts only doesn't. I have a three night stay booked on all pts next June at PH NYC and those three nights would be nice to count as it could help me get over the 70 night threshold for an extra TSU. Pts+cash there would be a better pt-value redemption than pts only, but it doesn't seem like any manhattan property makes pts+cash available (though for most NYC hotels, the Pts+cash redemption would be terrible in comparison to the rack rates because they are all - except PH - in too high of a category).

Kacee

That's false math. It ignores the fact you're out of pocket $300 per night when you don't have to be. Similar to the "buy more, save more" promotions that are so successful at exploiting a logical fallacy and thus increasing the retailer's profit.

beachfan

The common usage definition is that the best point value means best $/point ratio on points used.

It's true math.

It's a different metric than "saving the most money". For example, the member rate is $1,005 for thanksgiving night. Points only yields 3.35 cents per point ($1005/30,000).
Points plus cash is $705/15,000= 4.7 cents per point, quite a bit higher.

You are getting a return of only 2 cents per point when you spend the additional 15k (saving $300 for another 15,000 points).

Another way of looking at it is if you ONLY had 30,000 points, you could either get one night free OR one night free and the second night at $300. Given the cost of the hotel, it seems better to me than spending 60k points on 2 free nights unless you have a huge, huge stash of points or don't have other uses for your points. But if you have enough points for all your desires, then I would agree on going all points unless one needs stay credit.

Kacee

I'm familiar with the analysis. I just think it's based on flawed logic (including particularly the assumption that I would pay $1005 per night to stay at this property, which I would not).

I'm totally with Gary Leff on this one . . . Cat 7 C+P is a bad deal compared to pure points. You're buying 15,000 points for 2 cents each, which is more than they are worth by any objective analysis.

The traditional benefits of C+P over all points were (1) DSU eligibility, and (2) stay credit. The first benefit has now been mooted for all of us, and the second for some of us (since we've stopped chasing Hyatt status).