Apr 30, 2013, 1:02 pm
AXON Hilton Honors Award Questions and Information: The Definitive Thread
Apr 27, 2013, 1:49 pm
#1037
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: MRY
Posts: 430
No Downgrade to No-Fee AMEX
FYI, with the latest AXON announcement I decided it was time to downgrade from the Surpass to the No-Fee AMEX. I had been foolishly holding out hope that AMEX would have some sort of additional AXON discount for Surpass cardholders to help justify the annual fee. Anyway, I just got off the phone with AMEX and they have put a freeze on downgrading Surpass cards to the No-Fee AMEX. Discussion on this topic starts on post #2094 in this thread http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilto...l#post20662000
Apr 27, 2013, 2:09 pm
#1038
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 2,841
Times must be very good (occupancy rates much higher) for Hilton family hotels, as there's a pretty clear message being sent the past couple months:
We don't need to reward your loyalty.
We don't need to reward your loyalty.
Apr 27, 2013, 5:42 pm
#1039
Join Date: Mar 2006
Programs: Marriott -Plat. Hilton -Diamond
Posts: 373
Looks like I don't have to renew my Diamond Status with Hilton this year, or spend any more on my HH Amex. I love the postive spin Hilton said me is that I could still have lots of free nights to stay at Hampton Inns!
Apr 27, 2013, 9:05 pm
#1040
FlyerTalk Evangelist & Ambassador: China
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: DL DM/MM, UA 1K, AA Exp, HH Dia, WOH Glob, IHG Plat, Marriott Gold, NA EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 17,423
Apr 28, 2013, 12:34 am
#1041
Join Date: Aug 2005
Programs: AA Plt 3MM; UA 1K 2 MM; MR Lifetime Plat; HH Lifetime Diamond; HH Diamond; IGH Spire Ambas; SPG Gold
Posts: 2,149
+1
I would have thought American Express would go out of its way to hold on to its customers with some REAL benefits, especially given that it now has a real HH competitor that offers Gold status just for having the card.
Axon benefits are now marginal at best.
Bottom line: We're being fleeced every which way to Sunday...
I would have thought American Express would go out of its way to hold on to its customers with some REAL benefits, especially given that it now has a real HH competitor that offers Gold status just for having the card.
Axon benefits are now marginal at best.
Bottom line: We're being fleeced every which way to Sunday...
Apr 28, 2013, 9:35 am
#1042
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Cote d'Ivoire
Programs: OW Emerald - HH Diamond
Posts: 3,418
Been off the grid, now back, catching up. Ouch, indeed.
Apr 28, 2013, 3:07 pm
#1043
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: In CT,left my heart in Leicester.
Programs: Work in progress.
Posts: 1,237
+1
I would have thought American Express would go out of its way to hold on to its customers with some REAL benefits, especially given that it now has a real HH competitor that offers Gold status just for having the card.
Axon benefits are now marginal at best.
Bottom line: We're being fleeced every which way to Sunday...
I would have thought American Express would go out of its way to hold on to its customers with some REAL benefits, especially given that it now has a real HH competitor that offers Gold status just for having the card.
Axon benefits are now marginal at best.
Bottom line: We're being fleeced every which way to Sunday...
Sucks.
I wonder...Hilton as GOT to be aware of this huge uproar that their devaluation has caused...Why don't they respond?
Apr 28, 2013, 5:17 pm
#1044
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
Programs: AA 2MM LT PLT; AS MVP Gold75k; HHonors Diamond; IHG PLT
Posts: 3,503
I could be wrong, but would hazard a guess that the people making the most noise are those who accumulate points by credit card churns rather than stays, will have to put a bit more effort in to working the system, have made it more difficult for those of us who earn points the old fashioned way (okay, I also dabble in credit cards
).
Apr 28, 2013, 9:10 pm
#1045
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: JAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, AA Gold MM, Marriott LTT, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,770
You're Wrong
What makes you think that Hilton did not do a fair amount of research before making the change. Like the airlines, hotels are most concerned about their bigger spenders, who apparently are not too concerned by the devaluation.
I could be wrong, but would hazard a guess that the people making the most noise are those who accumulate points by credit card churns rather than stays, will have to put a bit more effort in to working the system, have made it more difficult for those of us who earn points the old fashioned way (okay, I also dabble in credit cards ).
I could be wrong, but would hazard a guess that the people making the most noise are those who accumulate points by credit card churns rather than stays, will have to put a bit more effort in to working the system, have made it more difficult for those of us who earn points the old fashioned way (okay, I also dabble in credit cards
).
Apr 29, 2013, 1:16 am
#1046
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CA
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 2,879
On the other hand, we can all hope that AMEX is seeing the error of their ways and is trying to regroup before they lose too many accounts. Refusing to allow downgrades will just push people to cancel the card and move more rapidly to the competition.
Apr 29, 2013, 4:00 am
#1047
Join Date: Feb 2006
Programs: HH diamond
Posts: 2,646
This is not automatic. You have to spend at least 10K during the year before you can get the free night on the anniversary. So just having the card (and paying the annual fee) is NOT enough to earn an annual free weekend night certificate.
Apr 29, 2013, 8:56 am
#1048
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
Programs: AA 2MM LT PLT; AS MVP Gold75k; HHonors Diamond; IHG PLT
Posts: 3,503
600k points? How long did it take to accumulate? Why are you holding them?
Apr 29, 2013, 12:06 pm
#1049
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 207
I want to book an AXON award at Hilton Cairns from Jan 2-6th 2014. There is availability from 3-6 but not on the 2nd. Is it reasonable to expect availability to open up later? For now I have booked 3-7th hoping I can change to 2-6th.
Apr 29, 2013, 12:16 pm
#1050
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: 10^7 mm from Ȱ
Programs: Hyatt D/HHonors D/ SPG P/ Marriott P/ IHG P/ UA 1K/ AA EXP/ DL D
Posts: 1,976
Believe it or not, it is easier than you think to accumulate 600K points - I used to be able to accrue 400-500K HHonors points every year, through stays, AMEX credit cards including sign-on bonuses, and various promotions.