Apr 30, 2013, 1:02 pm
AXON Hilton Honors Award Questions and Information: The Definitive Thread
Apr 26, 2013, 1:35 pm
#1021
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 52
Expect a letter from AMEX today with the new point levels for 4 night reward stays.
8 - 220,000
9 - 260,000
10 - 300,000
From the letter:
Discounted point amount needed for a four night reward stay book on or after June 15, 2013.
For hotels that moved from Category 5, 6 or 7 to Category 8, 9 or 10 as part of the recent modifications, you will not receive a discounted redemption benefit at those hotels for bookings made prior to June 15, 2013.
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There's more info but everyone should be getting their letter soon.
8 - 220,000
9 - 260,000
10 - 300,000
From the letter:
Discounted point amount needed for a four night reward stay book on or after June 15, 2013.
For hotels that moved from Category 5, 6 or 7 to Category 8, 9 or 10 as part of the recent modifications, you will not receive a discounted redemption benefit at those hotels for bookings made prior to June 15, 2013.
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There's more info but everyone should be getting their letter soon.
The AXON8 and AXON9 rates are higher than I had predicted and hoped, but the AXON10 is within 5k of my expectation. I had predicted/hoped for 175, 215, 295 to put them slightly above low season and at a good discount from high season. Because of the very low low-season rates at many of the cat8 and cat9 properties, I think the AXON for those categories are too high.
I imagine in a few days or weeks, posters here and the bloggers will find some really good high-season opportunities with this. In the end, it's a better than 20% discount on a 4-night stay during high season, so I'm glad Amex and HHonors extended the benefit to the new categories. 5 nights in one place isn't my norm for travel. 4 is much more often the case.
Apr 26, 2013, 1:51 pm
#1022
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: IAD, DCA, BWI
Programs: HHonors Dia, PC Plat, DL PM, SPG Gold
Posts: 267
So it pretty much comes to the same rate as stay 4, get 5th night free for high season rates. For low season rates AXON may actually be more than the actual point rate and not have any value.
Cat 8:
70K regular high season
4 nts at 55K AXON
5 nts at 56K VIP
Cat 9:
80K regular high season
4 nts at 65K AXON
5 nts at 64K VIP
Cat 10:
95K regular high season
4 nts at 75K AXON
5 nts at 76K VIP
Cat 8:
70K regular high season
4 nts at 55K AXON
5 nts at 56K VIP
Cat 9:
80K regular high season
4 nts at 65K AXON
5 nts at 64K VIP
Cat 10:
95K regular high season
4 nts at 75K AXON
5 nts at 76K VIP
Apr 26, 2013, 1:56 pm
#1023
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,767
Right you are. The Citi Reserve gives Gold as long as you own the card, and it has 0% forex fee. The AMEX Surpass only offers Gold the first year and it carries 3% forex fee.
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Apr 26, 2013, 3:10 pm
#1025
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: LAX
Programs: Marriott, Hilton
Posts: 310
AXON Hilton HHonors Award Questions and Information: The Definitive Thread
New redemption levels booked on or after June15.
5 - 130,000
6 - 160,000
7 - 190,000
5 - 130,000
6 - 160,000
7 - 190,000
Apr 26, 2013, 4:14 pm
#1026
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: DL Diamond, HHonors Diamond, National Executive Elite
Posts: 2,363
For long-weekend trips, it's nice to be able to stay four nights instead of five as the standard VIP rates require.
Apr 26, 2013, 4:24 pm
#1027
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: LAX
Programs: HHonor Dia, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 550
Wow, that seriously blows.
Cat 6/7 going from 125k/140k to 160k/190k.
It also looks same as VIP.
Cat 6: 50k high season, 160k with VIP
Cat 7: 60k high season, 192k with VIP
I guess it's only good if we want 4 nights, instead of 5 nights with VIP. Otherwise, there's no benefit at all
Cat 6/7 going from 125k/140k to 160k/190k.
It also looks same as VIP.
Cat 6: 50k high season, 160k with VIP
Cat 7: 60k high season, 192k with VIP
I guess it's only good if we want 4 nights, instead of 5 nights with VIP. Otherwise, there's no benefit at all
Apr 26, 2013, 4:57 pm
#1028
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: BWI
Programs: Everyone!
Posts: 1,024
Well, this just aligns with the suckage recently implemented by HH. I am thankful we have until June 15 to wipe out the rest of our HH points, which is longer than non-AX holders.....
Apr 26, 2013, 5:34 pm
#1029
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 190
AXON Hilton HHonors Award Questions and Information: The Definitive Thread
What's the best cat7 properties to blow up the rest of my points before 6/15?
Apr 26, 2013, 8:46 pm
#1031
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: On strike
Posts: 8,135
It's worse: we have category inflation PLUS cost increases for AXON.
I stopped spending on my Hilton Amex weeks ago. Points still have some worth, and I'll probably still churn the Citi Hilton Visa occasionally, but the value proposition for earning from card spend is gone.
I stopped spending on my Hilton Amex weeks ago. Points still have some worth, and I'll probably still churn the Citi Hilton Visa occasionally, but the value proposition for earning from card spend is gone.
Apr 27, 2013, 12:56 am
#1032
Join Date: May 2009
Location: USA
Programs: UAL 1MM, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Globalist, AA 3MM
Posts: 831
The entire screen shot of the new hilton Honors Axon award chart has been posted on my blog at TheMrPickles.
It is not pretty.
It is not pretty.
Apr 27, 2013, 9:22 am
#1034
FlyerTalk Evangelist & Ambassador: China
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: DL DM/MM, UA 1K, AA Exp, HH Dia, WOH Glob, IHG Plat, Marriott Gold, NA EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 17,423