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Old Jan 22, 2019, 7:36 pm
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Originally Posted by est-gratuite
Tourism and leisure holiday mostly.
I have been to Tokyo before...not at this hotel, but I have stayed in that bay/harbour area.

The Hilton Odaiba rooms with bay views and open balconies appeal to me....but the non central location and inconvenient transport connections do not.
Anything over 20k/25k JPY per night for this hotel seems quite overpriced to me, considering the above, unless someone can give me a reason it's justified.

Also, points wise the Hilton Odaiba is 60,000 points per night, which is the same rate as the other Tokyo Hilton in the Shinjuku area, which is much more central and with better transport connections. (Some nights at the Odaiba are a bit lower at 45k, 53k or 57k points per night, but not many. Most are at 60k points).
If you haven't been to Tokyo in a few years, then you may be surprised with how rates have gone up across the board. Personally, I think that 25K is reasonable for what this hotel offers.

It's only a short walk from the hotel to the Yurikamome Line, which offers a scenic 15 minute ride to Shinbashi, a major JR/Subway hub, especially convenient if you plan on making trips to Yokohama or Kamakura. The walk to JR line from Hilton Shinjuku is quite long, and the train ride to Yokohama an extra 10-15 minutes long.

It's also more convenient than your average Tokyo hotel for travel to Tokyo Disney Resort. And there is at least a day's worth of activities available within Odaiba itself.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by est-gratuite
Is this hotel really worth more than 20,000 to 25,000 JPY per night considering it's not that central, and public transport to the city centre involves at least 2 to 3 metro/subway lines ?
Really depends on your plans.

If you have activities in the Odaiba area, or Shimbashi, Shiodome, Ginza etc, then it’s a pretty good option.

However if most of your plans are based around the opposite side of town, such as Shibuya etc, then probably not the greatest option.
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Originally Posted by hailstorm
If you haven't been to Tokyo in a few years, then you may be surprised with how rates have gone up across the board. Personally, I think that 25K is reasonable for what this hotel offers.

It's only a short walk from the hotel to the Yurikamome Line, which offers a scenic 15 minute ride to Shinbashi, a major JR/Subway hub, especially convenient if you plan on making trips to Yokohama or Kamakura. The walk to JR line from Hilton Shinjuku is quite long, and the train ride to Yokohama an extra 10-15 minutes long.

It's also more convenient than your average Tokyo hotel for travel to Tokyo Disney Resort. And there is at least a day's worth of activities available within Odaiba itself.
The price really has gone up a lot. I believe the PDF document says minimum 45k maximum 60k. I was very lucky to have stayed here at 27k/night for 6 days and 2 rooms. It was one of the most memorable stays in Japan to me. They kindly upgraded both rooms to Executive rooms facing Tokyo Bay, the view was really nice both during the day and in the evening. We were also given free access to the large pool and the outdoor SPA with Tokyo Bay in the background. Yurikamome was quite convenient for going into the city and I shipped my luggage from Hilton Odaiba to Hilton Tokyo Bay via Yamato Transport.
I would not recommend staying at Odaiba for Disney....Hilton Tokyo Bay is simply too much more convenient. The breakfast at the seaside restaurant was also fantastic, in my opinion much more delicious than the breakfast at Hilton Tokyo Bay. For 27k/night it was really great. I likely would not pay 45k-60k to stay here if I need 2 rooms. However if I were planning for a trip with only me and my wife I may still consider it, since only 1 room would be needed. In 2018 I did visit Hilton Fukuoka Seahawk and was given a Suite Upgrade, but it was not nearly as nice as the Hilton Odaiba. I would always have a fond memory of the stay at this property.
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My summary:



Hotel and rooms

Booked cheapest room facing Daiba train station (Yurikamome line) and got upgraded to tokyo bay/rainbow bridge view with balcony. Beautiful views and well worth it even if I had paid extra for this type of room. A word of warning though if you don't get upgraded or don't have gold/diamond status...if you book a room facing the bay it does not guarantee you will get a good view. A lot of rooms do face the bay but due to the curvature of the building you will only see some water and few boring buildings across the bay. You really want a room facing the rainbow bridge and tokyo tower for it to be worth the higher price paid. Make sure your room type says "rainbow bridge views" to get the best value for money.

Most (all ?) rooms have a balcony where you can open the window for fresh air and even and walk out onto the balcony. This is something very unique that you won't find easily elsewhere in tokyo, so I really appreciated this and it was one of my main reasons for chosing this property. (Together with the really nice views)

Rooms are a little bit dated (think late 1990s style) but everything was clean and in perfect working order. The room I got had a combination bathtub and walk-in shower. We had a large king bed and coffee table with couches/sofas (2 one seaters and 1 large two seater sofa). For Japan standards it was a fairly big room I think.

Breakfast at seascape restaurant had a decent selection and you eat with views of the rainbow bridge.
They have a fixed price lunch and evening buffet too.

There is a 24 hour convenience store just outside the nearby "Grand Nikko" hotel. Takes a 3 minute walk from the hilton past daiba station to get there.


Hotel SPA:

As a diamond member I was given free tickets for the spa, but my schedule didn't give me time to use it, so cannot comment.


Restaurants

I ate at both the meat style "Grillogy" and Chinese "Toh-Gu" restaurants more than once. Both of these restaurants were were really good in terms of food quality, especially Grillogy. The Chinese "Toh-Gu" restaurant faces the monorail and has a more relaxed atmosphere, big tables and lots of space. "Grillogy" faces the bay. Both look fancy, but prices were decent and there was a discount offer for fixed menus in the room which I used at both restaurantrs. You really get a lot of food with the fixed menus, but you can order "a la carte" at reasonable prices too.

I didn't use the "Seascape" fixed price buffet restaurant in the evening, or the Japanese restaurant "Sakura" during my stay, so cannot comment on those.


Club Lounge

Maybe I was somewhat spoilt by the lounge at the Hilton in Osaka which had a lot of space and a very nice selection of really good food and drink. The lounge at the Hilton Odaiba has fantastic views over tokyo bay and the rainbow bridge/tokyo tower and skytree (there are even tables outside where you can drink/eat), but the space is small for such a huge hotel (think tables cramped a bit too closely together) and the evening food is somewhat limited and too simple in my opinion. I asked about bringing an outside 3rd guest into the lounge for 1 evening and they quoted me a price of 7000JPY per person. If I had paid that price I would be disappointed with the somewhat cramped space and the selection of food on offer there in the evenings. The view and terrace is what really makes this lounge, not the space or food. 7000JPY would get you a really nice 4 to 7 course set menu meal in one of the restaurants I mentioned earlier.


Hotel Location

This is not a centraly located hotel at all, and while you can get to the centre of Tokyo and most tourist sites fairly easily if you don't have luggage, it's going to get expensive traveling each day. "Daiba" station is right outside the hotel (Yurikamome line) and goes pretty fast (crossing over the rainbow bridge) to Shimbashi station where you can get both the metro and JR rail lines. You won't see "daiba" station on most tokyo metro and rail maps cause it's a privately owned line....look for the small blue line leaving Shimbashi station going all the way to to Toyusu station.

The Yurikamome line which runs just outside the hotel is priavtely owned and requires a different ticket than the tokyo metro or Rinkai Line or even JR rail lines, and as far as I could see there is no combined daily or weekly ticket exists which gets you transport on the Yurikamome and other Tokyo transport types. Even if you are using a prepaid transport card, you're still going to pay a separate price once you switch over to the metro or JR lines. Single journeys to/from Shimbashi station cost 320JPY just for the Yurikamome and the unlimited trips day ticket (again just for the Yurikamome) costs 820JPY. You then have to add the costs of the other lines you will be using on top of that price each day. If you plan to use the Yurikamome more than twice in a day, definitely buy a day ticket as it will keep taking money off prepaid cards even if you reach the same price as a day ticket. There seems to be no day rate price capping on the prepaid cards in Tokyo so watch out. One good thing is that the views from the Yurikamome line are really great, both day and night.

There is also a direct bus connection to/from Shinagawa train station via the Odaiba Rainbow Bus which stops at the bottom level (street level) of hotel. The rainbow bus only takes cash (no prepaid cards) and costs 210 JPY each way or 500JPY for a day ticket. Transport on other tokyo lines requires paying separately on top of the cost of the rainbow bus. Luggage space on the bus is limited and the journey takes longer than on the Yurikamome line. Also, finding the bus stop at Shinagawa isn't that easy unless you know where it is.

"Tokyo teleport station" (Rinkai Line) is just under 1km walk away. It's ok to walk if it's not raining, you have no luggage and you know the way, as it involves a few turns and crossing one of three different elevated bridges over a motorway. You can also take the free "tokyo bay shuttle bus" directly from the hotel to tokyo teleport station but it goes all around odaiba before arriving so you might be quicker walking. On the way back to the hotel the shuttle is faster as the Hilton is one of the first stops. However, while it does run on 20min intervals for 7 days a week, the time it runs is limited from about 11:30am to 7:30pm each day. Honestly, I used it only once while I was there, as I usually walked if I needed to go to or from that station. The Rinkai Line connects to "Shin Kiba" station on 1 end and "Osaki" station on the other. Some trains go further than Osaki and start to go along the same route as some of the JR Tokyo rail lines in the west of the city. The Rinkai Line is another privately owned line that requires different tickets to the tokyo metro/Yurikamome/JR rail lines. You pay seperately for all of these lines even with a prepaid card.

Airport limousine buses also run directly from the hotel to both Narita airport(at an expensive rate of 2800JPY per person) and Haneda airports (520JPY per person). Haneda airport is fairly close to the hotel and you can go via public transport, but I think the direct bus from the hotel is both cheaper and easier espcially with luggage.


Nearby attractions:

Oedo-onsen-monogatari (hot spring bath) is not too far way. It's one of the biggest and most popular onsen in tokyo. Lots of tourists go there. Worth at least 1 visit.

There is a sort of "fake" beach with sand within walking distance of the hotel. I doubt you can bathe in the bay water though, but many people went there to lay in the sun.

There is Aqua City Odaiba - a large shopping mall with restaurants and shops just next to the hotel.

On sunny days you can take boat trips across from Daiba all the way upriver to Asakusa where the famous Sensōji temple, old shops and Tokyo Skytree is . Well worth it. I highly recommend doing this.


Conclusion:

You really have to think hard if this location is going to suit you or not. I chose this hotel because of the really nice tokyo bay/rainbow bridge views, the fact that the rooms had balconies, you could open the window and walk out onto the balcony, and the fact that odaiba is such a laid back relaxed area of tokyo. However, this location is not for everyone and both distance/journey time to the centre and significantly higher daily transport costs should factor into your decision. If you see another hotel in a more central location at the same (or lower) price and you don't care about bay views/open balconies then give this hotel a miss.

Also if you care about food quality and selection at the club lounge, I'm guessing you'll do much better at the Hilton in central Tokyo (Shinjuku). However, maybe someone else can confirm this.

At anywhere from 15,000JPY to around 20,000JPY per night this hotel is good value. Once you go beyond that price you really need to start thinking if this place is going to suit your needs, especially regarding the non central location, travel times, extra travel costs and lounge food quality. So, chose wisely.

In terms of points it goes anywhere from 45,000 to 60,000 points per night.

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Old May 12, 2019, 3:07 am
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Hi,

Thanks for the detailed report est-gratuite especially on the transport links.

The odaiba hilton is one hilton hotel I have not stayed at yet ( I have stayed several times at the Hilton Shinjuku, Conrad and Hilton tokyo Bay) due partly to its location and transport costs/time.

There are a few more attractions that may or may not be worth a visit

Mueseum of maritime science ( main building is closed for rennovation but the surrounding ships are open)
The Miraikan ( National Museum of emerging science and innovation)
The replica Statue of Liberty
Walk to Daiba paek along the seashore ( on a nice day) with large stone wall when it used to be a fort.
The Fuji TV building and observation deck ( the giant sphere) with nice views
Venus Fort ( also has a Toyota expeience , ferris wheel and fake italian piazzas inside
Big Site ( convention centre with the upside down pyramids)

Also saw tours on the 'duck boats' coming out of the water here

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Old Jul 22, 2019, 12:48 pm
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Recently got to stay in a few hiltons in Japan. Stayed at Conrad Tokyo, Hilton Odaiba, and Hilton Odawara, most of them were paid with cash.

I had a really pleasant experience at this place. Sure it wasn't the nicest hotel I've been in, but it was decent and in pretty good condition. The best I could describe it: It's a good value. If I had to use points, this is a good consideration as it is only 45k-50k points compared to the Conrad which is 95k.

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I originally was not going to stay at this hotel, but due to our Airbnb having big problems (think urine stains on the toilet), I promptly checked out and booked two nights here for $210 per night. I’d say that wasn’t too bad for immediate check in. The other alternatives were Hilton Shinjuku at $400 and Conrad at $700. The Hilton Odaiba hotel ran about 47k points that night which is a decent redemption, putting it at 0.47 cpp per night and 0.6 cpp for a 5 night stay on points.

About 30 minutes later I checked my app and lo and behold, another upgrade. I’ve been upgraded in Asia almost every time now with Hilton Diamond from Aspire and I hope it’s not just a streak. I was upgraded from the twin guest room to a few categories up to the deluxe twin room.

**Location: 3.5 **

The location of the hotel is in one of the tourist spots called Odaiba. To get here you have to either take a taxi or take the non-Tokyo metro rail called the Yurikamome. On this man-made island, there’s a mall, a bunch of sites to see, and the famous life sized Gundam. In another note, the hotel is pretty far from pretty much everything else. It’s a 20 minute train ride to Shimbashi then another 15 to Tokyo station or 30 minutes to Shibuya. Overall, you are technically in a tourist place but it's isolated. It’s probably not for someone who wants to be 5 minutes from Shibuya or Ginza.

The nicest thing is that it’s like right off the subway station. It’s literally at the exit then walk like 10 meters. You absolutely will not hear the train or anything though so fret not.

I did mention that the place is next to the aqua city mall. The mall has a Daiso for all your 100 yen needs, a selection of anime things, souvenirs, clothing, and a food court. It’s also quite pretty at night.

**First impression:**

The check in was quite smooth and the lobby was big and glamorous. Our hotel room, the twin deluxe was spacious for Japanese standards as we had ample space to put and open two big luggages.

The hotel used older systems but was pretty well maintained. It is very well lit (I could barely see the room at the Conrad) and looks new but they still use key card slots to turn on all the room appliances. Although it was in good condition, it wasn’t as clean as there were a few smudges on the bathroom floor near the corners but I expect this from pretty much any hotel. You're just bound to miss a spot.

In terms of age and maintenance, it was better than the Conrad, although it was slightly less clean, just slightly.

Room: 4/5**

[Walk through of our room](https://imgur.com/y103B6Q)

I'm not entirely sure how much better this is than the superior twin room, and twin guest room. It honestly just looks like a regular room to me.

**Dining: 4.5/5**

I only had breakfast once here in the main lobby instead of the executive lounge because we woke up late but it was quite nice. Spread was decent and had a few Japanese items and I quite enjoyed it. The breakfast time also runs a bit longer than most, in the lobby at least, from 6:30am to 10:30am on weekdays and to 11am on weekends.

I didn’t get a chance to try out the executive lounge as I was out for the whole day, but I was pretty pleased with breakfast.

**Facilities: 4/5**

I got two vouchers for being diamond. Their spa consists of a few pools, indoors and outdoors and is quite big for a hotel in Tokyo. It's a nice place to relax but I'm sure that's the last thing you want to do in Tokyo. I felt that it was very comparable to the Hilton Odawara Resort pools. The gym on the other hand... I’ve seen Hampton inns with better gyms. It’s one of those treadmill gyms with a bench, a ball, and dumbbells gym. It also takes an annoyingly long walk to get to.

**Other:**

One thing I really value is a shuttle service. Hilton Odaiba has airport shuttle service for like $25 or something. The train ride there is like $14. I believe it was $40 or $50 to Narita but don’t quote me on it. It runs from 7am and that is when we checked out.

**Overall: 4/5**

I had a very pleasant stay here. The hotel was quite cheap rate wise and points wise. I would stay here for 5 nights at 45k-50k per night with 5th night free but that is only because I am okay with traveling more than 30mins in Tokyo.

I also don’t think it was too expensive cash wise as I’ve paid close to $200 a night weekend snowboarding or rafting trips. Yes, it was a bit far from everything but it was quite clean, very well maintained, had a pretty nice mall across the street, and had decent breakfast. If distance isn't a problem for you, I definitely recommend this over the Conrad Tokyo (haven’t stayed at Hilton Tokyo yet so can’t comment about it).
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 4:44 pm
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Just chilling by the seaside parks is also nice, though I'm not aware of the current state of the renovation they're currently undergoing.
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by NightFury1
I definitely recommend this over the Conrad Tokyo (haven’t stayed at Hilton Tokyo yet so can’t comment about it).
Thanks for the review. Was considering this hotel for sakura 2020 cos the other 2 Tokyo hotels are ... well:
  • Hilton Odaiba ¥31k
  • Hilton Tokyo ¥62k
  • Conrad Tokyo ¥110k
The price savings are offset a little bit from the distance + needing to pay for the yurikamome but uh ... I'm not paying double for Hilton and triple for Conrad ...

[edit] Hmmm, the hotel has three levels of non-suite rooms that - from what I can tell at least - are pretty much identical except for the views.

King Hilton - Monorail, port and park views - ¥31.0k
King Deluxe - Tokyo Bay views - ¥34.7k
King Superior Deluxe - Rainbow Bridge view - ¥36.6k

As Diamond would you book the base room being fairly confident of getting upgraded to a room with a view during peak season (sakura season)?
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Old Dec 1, 2019, 11:38 am
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AA just informed me we are flying home from HND not NRT, I guess my choices are the Royal Park at the airport or here - they seem to both be around $190. We will be In Kyoto for a couple of days before is it fairly easy to get to the Odaiba using the JR pass, our flight isn’t until 11 am so we would simply use the shuttle in the morning.
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Old Jan 22, 2020, 3:04 am
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I think the comment in previous posts about this hotel slowly getting used to being a Hilton is accurate.

We stayed over Christmas and New Year's. Check-In at 8pm was very prompt but I did notice over our stay that it was very busy between 3-4pm so try to avoid checking in then if possible.

I was a Gold at the time and the very polite receptionist (actually every staff member was very polite) tried to upgrade us. She could only manage an Smoking Exec room for only half our stay so we politely declined. As compensation, she gave us vouchers to use the Spa facilities for free - which we managed to use a couple of times.

The Exec rooms and Premium rooms have great views of the bay and we could even see Mt Fuji on clear mornings, so paying for a high floor was worth it.

Gold status gave us access to the full buffet breakfast which can be found in many Hilton properties. The queue to get a table was fine unless you try arriving at the last minute.

The comments around location are accurate. It is great for visiting the exhibitions / malls / the beach etc in Odaiba, but for anything in central Tokyo, you'll be spending 20 - 30 mins getting there. A Suica IC card is useful if you plan to use the underground. It's like a pay as you Oyster card and enables you to avoid buying separate tickets.

We didn't use any of the other hotel restaurants (apart from breakfast) so cannot comment on those, but if you do use the Spa, make sure to check out the outdoor jacuzzi. It has great views of the Rainbow Bridge and Tokyo skyline.
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I had a couple of stays here back in January and several more over the last couple of years. My stays here have increased as the flights to Haneda have increased. I've really grown to like the property and it's location has caused me to explore more areas of Tokyo that I normally might if I was staying at the Conrad (as I always used to).

The comments above regarding the property getting used to be a Hilton are accurate in my opinion. The hotel management and staff seem to get the program now and try to make sure that Diamond members are recognized and treated well. Check in for diamonds is in the Executive Lounge and is taken care of after you have been seated in the lounge and been provided tea or other beverage. I have never waited more than a few minutes before being provided my keys.

The rooms are adequate and I have always been upgraded at least to a high floor Tokyo Bay/Rainbow Bridge view. The usual welcome gift is a few macarons and often a few mandarins.

At times in the evening (especially weekends) the lounge can get quite busy. When it isn't busy is a nice place to sit and enjoy the view. The evening selection is normal lounge offerings (veggies, chips, cheeses, nuts, etc.) plus a couple of Japanese and American hot items. Self pour red, white, and sparkling wines are provided along with several spirits (gin, vodka, etc) and mixers. The lounge ladies work quite hard to clear the plates and tables and replenish the offerings. In the afternoon small dessert cakes and snacks are provided. The lounge breakfast consists of normal Japanese and American hot and cold lounge breakfast items. As diamonds are provided the breakfast buffet at Seascape on the main floor this is a better choice,

Running in the area is easy and I basically just make my own routes each day usually connecting several of the parks. Among them, the Higashi Yashio Greenway connects to Aomi Minami Terminal Port Park which is styled as a more traditional Japanese style garden with duck ponds and a meandering stream.

For me this property really shined on my last couple of stays as it seems there has been less turnover of staff and I am beginning to know a few members of management and the executive lounge staff.




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I asked in the other thread but will also ask here in case anyone knows, does the Aspire credit able to be used at this property?
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Originally Posted by TravelingZoomer
I asked in the other thread but will also ask here in case anyone knows, does the Aspire credit able to be used at this property?
It is listed as a Hilton resort here:
https://www.hilton.com/en/locations/...gleLink,i81646
which is the listing the Amex Aspire terms direct you to:
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...-0#offer-terms


Nevermind.

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Originally Posted by jerry a. laska
It is listed as a Hilton resort here:
https://www.hilton.com/en/locations/...gleLink,i81646
which is the listing the Amex Aspire terms direct you to:
https://www.americanexpress.com/us/c...-0#offer-terms
Haha you see that's why I asked...I was getting conflicting information on my own research and the thread with the Aspire credit said it doesn't count. So I guess I will just have to wait and see!
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Originally Posted by TravelingZoomer
Haha you see that's why I asked...I was getting conflicting information on my own research and the thread with the Aspire credit said it doesn't count. So I guess I will just have to wait and see!
Yeah, now I sort of remember discussion in the past with Odaiba not counting. Now I’m not so sure…I think there may be more than one hilton resorts page and now following the link from Amex I only see Odawara, Tokyo Bay, Niseko, Roku Kyoto, and 3 Okinawa properties.
Maybe I saw Odawara and thought Odaiba, I have had a few gin and tonics tonight. Sorry for any confusion.

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