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Hilton Properties Devalued 5k → 10k & 10k → 20k for standard award:

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Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/

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Mar 1, 2017 | 4:26 am

#916

turtlemichael

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: Australia

Programs: QFF LTG , HH LTD.

Posts: 1,239

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtlemichael

Yes, now I have a dollar charge on all my existing points reservations. Good luck with getting that cash out of me!

Further, I have at least one of my rates changed from a teamUSA rate to a Hilton Honors discount rate adding a large sum to a 10 night stay. Good luck with that one too!

Hilton IT strikes again!

Mar 1, 2017 | 4:28 am

#917

Jaimito Cartero

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Sep 2003

Location: HH Diamond, Marriott, IHG, Hyatt something

Posts: 34,519

Anything I wanted, I booked yesterday. I know better than to wait and hope an "enhancement" actually works in our favor.

Mar 1, 2017 | 4:37 am

#918

:D!

Join Date: Sep 2012

Location: NW London and NW Sydney

Programs: BA Diamond, Hilton Bronze, A3 Diamond, IHG *G

Posts: 7,149

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtlemichael

Yes, now I have a dollar charge on all my existing points reservations. Good luck with getting that cash out of me!

Unless you want to risk your HH account being closed, you had better pay it if it doesn't get fixed, and dispute it afterwards.

I'm glad that I am not checking in or out of a Hilton today.

Mar 1, 2017 | 4:41 am

#919

Simon Schus

Join Date: Feb 2014

Posts: 942

Cash+points rate doubled for a Hilton Dublin Airport, Ireland stay in June.

12,000 points + 43 Euro
Equivalent today is 12,000 Euro + 85 Euro.
Up to total of 30,000 points + 0 Euro (was always 30,000 points before the change too)

Mar 1, 2017 | 4:43 am

#920

turtlemichael

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: Australia

Programs: QFF LTG , HH LTD.

Posts: 1,239

Quote:

Originally Posted by :D!

Unless you want to risk your HH account being closed, you had better pay it if it doesn't get fixed, and dispute it afterwards.

I'm glad that I am not checking in or out of a Hilton today.

The reservation is 3 months away.

Mar 1, 2017 | 4:45 am

#921

Simon Schus

Join Date: Feb 2014

Posts: 942

Most of my 100% point stays I've checked are now equal or more than the original cap.

One stay (Doubletree NCL Airport) is lower (17,000 after the change vs. 20,000 points before the chase; mid-April stay).

Mar 1, 2017 | 4:55 am

#922

so152so14

Join Date: Jun 2011

Posts: 79

Another data point:-

3 night reservation made last week using cash + pts - 60000 + $255

Same reservation today - 60000 + $413 (or 96000 + $254)

Room rate is the same.

Last edited by so152so14; Mar 1, 2017 at 5:44 am

Mar 1, 2017 | 5:15 am

#923

turtlemichael

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: Australia

Programs: QFF LTG , HH LTD.

Posts: 1,239

Crazier and crazier

Looking at Sydney Hilton in very early January. It has reduced to 45,000 points which is the lowest I have seen in recent times. However, the points rate is said to be non-cancellable!

Mar 1, 2017 | 5:20 am

#924

arlflyer

Join Date: Feb 2013

Location: DCA

Posts: 7,777

Yeah! Let's throw the whole company and program under the bus 6 minutes into their new IT rollout! Light the torches! Rabble!

Mar 1, 2017 | 5:24 am

#925

uncommonsensical

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: a hotel room, somewhere...

Posts: 962

"While hotels will no longer be in reward categories, the price of a standard hotel room will not exceed the maximum amount of Points that a hotel cost previously."

bs

imagine my shock.

Mar 1, 2017 | 5:27 am

#926

ozztraveller

Join Date: Nov 2016

Programs: HH Diamond, VA Platinum

Posts: 259

Quote:

Originally Posted by turtlemichael

Looking at Sydney Hilton in very early January. It has reduced to 45,000 points which is the lowest I have seen in recent times. However, the points rate is said to be non-cancellable!

End of december and early january I have noticed last year you could not cancel.
I have booked a few sunday nights for 27 000 refunable rate. Interesting to see if I will receive a decent upgrade paying such a small amount though.

Mar 1, 2017 | 5:28 am

#927

turtlemichael

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: Australia

Programs: QFF LTG , HH LTD.

Posts: 1,239

Quote:

Originally Posted by arlflyer

Yeah! Let's throw the whole company and program under the bus 6 minutes into their new IT rollout! Light the torches! Rabble!

I don't think I have done that. I have drawn attention to examples which do not appear to me to make a lot of sense. YMMV.

Mar 1, 2017 | 5:31 am

#928

Animator

Join Date: Jan 2017

Location: Saint-Petersburg, RU

Programs: IHG Spire, HH Diamond

Posts: 26

Hilton Prague
Was 30K until end of May.

Now it is 47K on this dates ((

Mar 1, 2017 | 5:32 am

#929

turtlemichael

Join Date: Feb 2005

Location: Australia

Programs: QFF LTG , HH LTD.

Posts: 1,239

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozztraveller

27K is a very decent rate at this hotel which would not have been seen for many years.

Mar 1, 2017 | 5:35 am

#930

GJS - yow

Join Date: May 2004

Location: Ottawa

Programs: AC SE*MM/S100K; HHonors Diamond; a bunch of others at various levels!

Posts: 1,595

Value of points dropped by a factor of two and a half

Cash+points rate more than doubled for a one-week stay in April.

Existing reservation: 168,000 points + USD$ 1,050
Equivalent today: 411,000 points + USD$ 1,050

The slider ranges from a maximum of 721,000 points to a maximum of USD$ 2,427.25. Using the slider, the value per point today is USD$ 0.0034 (0.34 cents per point). With my existing reservation, the value per point was USD$ 0.0082 (0.82 cents per point). The old rate was 2.4 times more cents per point than the new rate (okay, not quite a factor of two and a half).

(note that the cash room rate per night has not changed, and this is for the same room type already reserved).