New Lumo in da house!
Sep 8, 2019, 2:49 am
#631
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: C2
Programs: AY ex-Lumo, TK Elite, BT VIP, ITA Executive
Posts: 1,157
Sep 8, 2019, 5:13 am
#633
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,059
Sep 8, 2019, 5:56 am
#634
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Helsinki
Programs: AY Platinum, IHG Gold, Diners
Posts: 1,276
I have also decided not to have a summerhouse and rather travel. But I could still never afford Lumo on my own expense, nor could I spend the required time away from my family.
Sep 8, 2019, 5:59 am
#635
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: TLL
Programs: AY LUMO (500K+), Marriott Abassador, Hertz President Circle, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 214
yes, had some time to try it out
not sure shall i do it again like that
Sep 8, 2019, 7:06 am
#636
Join Date: Oct 2008
Programs: AY Plat Lumo+LTG, FI Gold, DL Silver, BA, SK, AX Plat, Priority Pass, Marriott Ambassador & others
Posts: 634
Someone may have that view. I don’t. My commutes are currently not direct point to point flights, and door to door closer to 24 hours twice a month is not unusual. So close to 48h per month is around 576h per year. This equates to more than 3 months work hours. I view Lumo as a nice benefit but it is in no way worth this many hours.
Sep 8, 2019, 10:14 pm
#638
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum (OWE), SK G(*G), BW Diamond
Posts: 810
Only in one company I have worked travel time has been compensated as it was invoiced from the customer-> hence any hours added gained you some extra hours in time sheets. For a normal point-point pendeler, regular office day begins between 5 and 7 and ends up between 20-23, i.e on average 16h or so, 8 hours extra. Multiple it by 4-10, you end up to (on average) 50h/month that is a 30% increase to "standard office hours". If anyone has been able to get a 30% raise because of traveling, please inform of that company so others could also apply
Naturally there are positions that require travel, for those the initial negotiation position is better but I would say in 95% jobs, travel "requirement" is more a less a soft requirement and in no way negotiation leverage.
Sep 9, 2019, 2:46 am
#639
Join Date: Jul 2017
Programs: AY Plat Lumo, LX SEN, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 468
Sep 9, 2019, 2:59 am
#640
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,182
I am firmly in the 80/20 camp for segments/points quota, believing most Lumos are commuters. Others think the opposite. Your guess is as good as anyone's!
Sep 9, 2019, 4:05 am
#641
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,182
Only in one company I have worked travel time has been compensated as it was invoiced from the customer-> hence any hours added gained you some extra hours in time sheets. For a normal point-point pendeler, regular office day begins between 5 and 7 and ends up between 20-23, i.e on average 16h or so, 8 hours extra. Multiple it by 4-10, you end up to (on average) 50h/month that is a 30% increase to "standard office hours". If anyone has been able to get a 30% raise because of traveling, please inform of that company so others could also apply
Naturally there are positions that require travel, for those the initial negotiation position is better but I would say in 95% jobs, travel "requirement" is more a less a soft requirement and in no way negotiation leverage.
And I guess to a hobbyist, any company travel is paid/compensated in some way.
But I do get the soft requirement aspect. It is not as black and white as in theory. For instance, I guess a lot of working people and especially white collar have a generic overtime clause saying overtime is included in base pay.
Personally, I have some extra paid vacation time to compensate any unpaid overtime that might occur. While this is a good incentive to keep overtime down, it is also a rubber-band clause. If the work suddenly requires some new tasks or travels, the deal quickly turns bad.
Sep 9, 2019, 4:24 am
#642
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Switzerland
Programs: AY Platinum Lumo, LX Senator, SK Life-time Gold, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 282
I needed 70 segments to reach Lumo, 19 long-haul and 51 short-haul segments. About 93% of the points required to reach the Lumo points threshold came from the long-haul bookings, including the connectors. Took 9 months and a strong focus on selecting OneWorld for the long-haul travels (always with AY code, if possible). Being self-employed, most of these travels can be classified as work related, but with additional flexibility of not being tied to an employer regarding time lines and travel patterns. But also meaning that nobody but me pays for my travel time, with the exception of some customers, but I don't usually even make an attempt to invoice for the travel time, as that does not work well with my work concept.