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Old Mar 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.

Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.

Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").

Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.

Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.

Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).

If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.


Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.

The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.




Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.

Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€

JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499

HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348

BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348

NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)

ICN-HEL 248, 318

HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498

CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248

HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)

YYZ-HEL 225€, 225


Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99

HEL-VNO 7k points

HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69

HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€

CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69

HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€

HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points

HEL-VIE 69€

HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€

HEL-MXP 69

HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69

HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69

HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€

BRU-HEL 69

GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89

HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€

HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points

HEL-SVO 69€

HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€

DUS-HEL 69€

HEL-OSL 42€

HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 1:55 am
  #1201  
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: AY+, SK EB
Posts: 2,962
Originally Posted by Johnny Rocket
170 Euros - LHR to HEL - ... is it worth doing for this price? Would be on the A350.
Even without Sapphire or Emerald status I would say no.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 3:54 pm
  #1202  
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Programs: AY+ Lumo, HH Diamond
Posts: 503
Itinerary: MUC-HEL
Fee: 190 euro
Ticket type: Light
Tier: AY+ Silver
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: email

No thanks.

At the time of the offer:

J9 C2 D0 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V6S0 N0 Q0 O0 Z0 G0 X0 E0
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 4:40 pm
  #1203  
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Programs: AY Plat Lumo+LTG, FI Gold, DL Silver, BA, SK, AX Plat, Priority Pass, Marriott Ambassador & others
Posts: 634
Originally Posted by Jainzar
Even without Sapphire or Emerald status I would say no.
I would concur. If AY awarded tier points according to the upgraded class, my answer would be different.
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Old Aug 9, 2019, 3:53 am
  #1204  
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: AY+ Plat, Marriott Plat, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 2,846
Originally Posted by Jainzar
Even without Sapphire or Emerald status I would say no.
Originally Posted by Trav1970
I would concur. If AY awarded tier points according to the upgraded class, my answer would be different.
I would probably agree. But if you have no status, upgrading would give you lounge access at LHR, which in my book has significant worth (vs dealing with the masses at LHR T3). The J seat alone for a 3hr flight, even on an A350, is not worth 170€.
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Old Aug 12, 2019, 1:18 am
  #1205  
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: HEL
Programs: Drawer of Cards
Posts: 423
Itinerary: DUS-HEL
Fee: 180 euro
Ticket type: Value
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: email

Ei kiitos
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Old Aug 12, 2019, 6:29 am
  #1206  
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: OUL.fi
Programs: *G, AY Plat Lumo
Posts: 56
Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 40 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 59 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 54 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 60 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 51 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 52 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 53 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 42 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 42 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat Lumo
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 48 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 48 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 46 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 43 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 43 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 54 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 44 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 54 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 53 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 59 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 45 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 50 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 50 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN

Flight date: March 2019
Fee: 50 euro

Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 50 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 60 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 50 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 50 euro
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: March 2019

Fee: 7500 points
Ticket type: Light (R)
Tier: Plat
Validity: until 2 hours before departure
Advance: 1 day
Conveyance: sms

Itinerary: LED-HEL
Flight date: June 2019

Fee: 70 euro
Ticket type: Light (Z)
Tier: Plat Lumo
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Flight date: August 2019

Fee: 70 euro
Ticket type: Light (Z)
Tier: Plat Lumo
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: HEL-TXL
​​​​​​​Flight date: August 2019

Fee: 70 euro
Ticket type: Light (O)
Tier: Plat Lumo
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: email

Nej tack.
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Old Aug 13, 2019, 9:41 am
  #1207  
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Helsinki
Programs: AY Platinum, IHG Gold, Diners
Posts: 1,276
Not an offer, but BP changed from 22L to 8L on AY1338. First opup in a looong time, and a pretty nice one I think.
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Old Aug 13, 2019, 9:55 pm
  #1208  
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Helsinki
Programs: AY+ Plat basic
Posts: 430
Itinerary: HEL-FRA
Flight date: August 2019

Fee: 180 euro
Ticket type: Light
Tier: Gold
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: email

​​​​​​​App has been offering ug for the same flight for 10k points for quite a while already. Not interested.
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Old Aug 19, 2019, 2:51 am
  #1209  
 
Join Date: Aug 2019
Programs: AY+ Lumo, HH Diamond
Posts: 503
Itinerary: HAM-HEL
Flight date: Oct 2016

Fee: 69 euro
Ticket type: Light
Tier: Basic
Validity: 72 hours
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: email

Itinerary: MAN-HEL
Flight date: Apr 2018

Fee: 91 euro
Ticket type: Light
Tier: Basic
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email


Itinerary: HEL-ICN
Flight date: Sep 2018

Fee: 344 euro
Ticket type: Value
Tier: Basic
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 11 days
Conveyance: email


Itinerary: ICN-HEL
Flight date: Sep 2018

Fee: 537 euro
Ticket type: Value
Tier: Basic
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 11 days
Conveyance: email
(At the same time the directly bought revenue business class ticket was only 300-350 eur more expensive.)
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 7:01 am
  #1210  
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2,685
HEL LHR
Aug 2019
Value
Platinum
Until 2 hours before departure
Roughly 2 days before the flight
10,000 pts
Sent by SMS
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 2:14 pm
  #1211  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: try to stay home
Programs: AY, M&M, BAEC ...and don t care of status anymore
Posts: 2,042
That is so funny, I m a Platinum for over 10 years with AY and they never send me a single upgrade offer - maybe I should change to an airline which still has F class.
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Old Aug 20, 2019, 10:30 pm
  #1212  
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: Finnair (AY) Platinum, Air France Silver, Tallink Club One Silver :)
Posts: 1,655
Itinerary: HEL-BUD
Flight date: August 2019

Fee: 120 euro
Ticket type: Value
Tier: Platinum
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: email

120€ for a breakfast is a little steep, so didn't take it. Now there is an offer for 130€ for the same flight in the app. Should I go for that?
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Old Aug 21, 2019, 12:16 am
  #1213  
Moderator, Finnair
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,178
Originally Posted by Steve_Hun
Itinerary: HEL-BUD
Flight date: August 2019

Fee: 120 euro
Ticket type: Value
Tier: Platinum
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: email

120€ for a breakfast is a little steep, so didn't take it. Now there is an offer for 130€ for the same flight in the app. Should I go for that?
Maybe you can use the bidding option and pay 150!
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Old Aug 21, 2019, 9:21 am
  #1214  
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Northern California
Posts: 116
Just a quick lurking inquiry about all those ARN-HEL upgrade offers. What would the advantage be to taking the offer? The flight’s an hour long which seems to be barely enough time to feel cramped in a seat. And the seats in “business” are exactly the same just with an empty middle seat, right? Does one actually get meal service on such a short flight, not that it would be “worth” more than a few euro.

This is is more of a philosophical question, really. Even a two-hour flight could make some sense to upgrade if you really don’t want to deal with economy. But 50 euro or more for one hour?
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Old Aug 21, 2019, 9:27 am
  #1215  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,059
ARN flight is 45 minutes and food is bread you can buy for 3-4€ from HEL downstairs.
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