Mar 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
Last edit by: Marschel
Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225€, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69€
HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€
HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69€
HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€
DUS-HEL 69€
HEL-OSL 42€
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225€, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69€
HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€
HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69€
HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€
DUS-HEL 69€
HEL-OSL 42€
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
Please post your upgrade offers
Jul 9, 2019, 3:55 pm
#1187
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: AY+ Platinum / FlyingBlue Gold
Posts: 835
Itinerary: AMS-HEL
Fee: 100 euro
Ticket type: Light
Tier: Finnair Platinum (OWE)
Validity: ???
Advance: 5
Conveyance: app push notification
Haha no way. Flight seems fully booked so let’s have my fingers crossed for an op-up
Fee: 100 euro
Ticket type: Light
Tier: Finnair Platinum (OWE)
Validity: ???
Advance: 5
Conveyance: app push notification
Haha no way. Flight seems fully booked so let’s have my fingers crossed for an op-up
Jul 11, 2019, 9:59 am
#1188
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: AY+ Platinum / FlyingBlue Gold
Posts: 835
Jul 14, 2019, 1:01 am
#1190
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
Posts: 5,788
Itinerary: HEL-LHR
Fee: 180€ pp
Ticket type: Light
Tier: AY Plat + Gold
Validity: -
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: e-mail
This is on a A321 operated flight. 360€ for no extra points, really?
Fee: 180€ pp
Ticket type: Light
Tier: AY Plat + Gold
Validity: -
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: e-mail
This is on a A321 operated flight. 360€ for no extra points, really?
Jul 14, 2019, 1:22 pm
#1191
Moderator, Finnair
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,180
Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Fee: 80€
Ticket type: Light
Tier: AY Plat
Validity: -
Advance: -
Conveyance: in-app
One interesting thing is that on android app I am offered the choice between 80€, 7500 points or voucher. At least that puts a very good value on the points.
On apple, same upgrade is only offered as either 80€ creditcard or 80€ apple pay. I guess they are betting on apple users being prone to pay high fees for little real value, as long as they can use "cool" tech.
Fee: 80€
Ticket type: Light
Tier: AY Plat
Validity: -
Advance: -
Conveyance: in-app
One interesting thing is that on android app I am offered the choice between 80€, 7500 points or voucher. At least that puts a very good value on the points.
On apple, same upgrade is only offered as either 80€ creditcard or 80€ apple pay. I guess they are betting on apple users being prone to pay high fees for little real value, as long as they can use "cool" tech.
Jul 16, 2019, 1:04 pm
#1193
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: HAM
Programs: BA Gold, A3*G, LH FTL, IHG Diamond
Posts: 299
Itinerary: HAM - HEL
Fee: 110 €
Ticket type: Value (Q)
Tier: BA Gold (OWE)
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: e-mail
Not really tempted since they only use an Embraer on that flight which means no free seat next to you.
Or has this policy been changed in the meantime?
Fee: 110 €
Ticket type: Value (Q)
Tier: BA Gold (OWE)
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: e-mail
Not really tempted since they only use an Embraer on that flight which means no free seat next to you.
Or has this policy been changed in the meantime?
Even luckier since the seat next to me stayed empty.
Good value for money for sure this time
Aug 3, 2019, 12:39 pm
#1195
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Switzerland
Programs: AY Plat (OWE), Bonvoy Gold, ALL Silver
Posts: 3,038
Itinerary: HEL-GVA
Fee: 200 EUR
Ticket type: Light
Tier: Plat
Validity: —-
Advance: 3 days
Conveyance: In App
I’m Plat and my partner Gold. I received the offer of Eur 200 for a Y to J upgrade my partner not (2 different bookings due to different travel dates but same return date from HEL).
On the E190, I don’t think so!!!! Besides, the flight is overbooked and was asked at check in (online) if We would consider a different time/route with compensation.
Declined as well...
Fee: 200 EUR
Ticket type: Light
Tier: Plat
Validity: —-
Advance: 3 days
Conveyance: In App
I’m Plat and my partner Gold. I received the offer of Eur 200 for a Y to J upgrade my partner not (2 different bookings due to different travel dates but same return date from HEL).
On the E190, I don’t think so!!!! Besides, the flight is overbooked and was asked at check in (online) if We would consider a different time/route with compensation.
Declined as well...
Aug 4, 2019, 9:59 am
#1197
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 23
Aug 6, 2019, 8:58 am
#1198
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: TMP
Programs: AY+ Plat, SK Gold, BT VIP, Radisson Premium, Accor Platinum
Posts: 794
Got a similar offer and took it
Itinerary: HEL-TXL
Fee: 60€
Ticket type: Light
Tier: Platsku
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: e-mail
Two rows of J, two seats taken at the moment.
Itinerary: HEL-TXL
Fee: 60€
Ticket type: Light
Tier: Platsku
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: e-mail
Two rows of J, two seats taken at the moment.