Mar 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
Last edit by: Marschel
Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225€, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69€
HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€
HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69€
HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€
DUS-HEL 69€
HEL-OSL 42€
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225€, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69€
HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€
HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69€
HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€
DUS-HEL 69€
HEL-OSL 42€
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
Please post your upgrade offers
Feb 21, 2019, 10:14 am
#1127
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: BGO (Temporarily HEL)
Programs: AY+ Gold, SK EBG
Posts: 400
Itinerary: HEL-OSL Fee: 44 EUR Ticket type: Light Tier: Plat Validity: 36 hours Advance: 14 days Conveyance: email
Lowest I've seen in a while, actually little bit tempted as one could skip breakfast in the lounge and eat in the plane...what is the value of 15mins additional sleep
Lowest I've seen in a while, actually little bit tempted as one could skip breakfast in the lounge and eat in the plane...what is the value of 15mins additional sleep
Apr 11, 2019, 10:52 pm
#1129
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,757
Apr 11, 2019, 11:57 pm
#1130
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Christchurch, New Zealand
Programs: NZ Elite; QF Platinum; CZ Gold; MU Platinum; Marriott Titanium; Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,467
Apr 16, 2019, 10:46 am
#1131
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: BA Gold, OZ Diamond, LH Silver
Posts: 553
City-pair: TXL-HEL
Price offered: 50€
FF tier on reservation: BA OWE (same offer was also sent to my friend on separate PNR who is AY Basic)
Original ticket type: Light
When the offer was made: 13 days before
How the offer was made: e-mail
City-pair: HEL-ALC
Price offered: 130€
FF tier on reservation: BA OWE
Original ticket type: Value
When the offer was made: I saw it 2 days before flight
How the offer was made: It was available through MMB and App
Price offered: 50€
FF tier on reservation: BA OWE (same offer was also sent to my friend on separate PNR who is AY Basic)
Original ticket type: Light
When the offer was made: 13 days before
How the offer was made: e-mail
City-pair: HEL-ALC
Price offered: 130€
FF tier on reservation: BA OWE
Original ticket type: Value
When the offer was made: I saw it 2 days before flight
How the offer was made: It was available through MMB and App
Apr 17, 2019, 6:31 am
#1132
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: TMP
Programs: AY+ Plat, SK Gold, BT VIP, Radisson Premium, Accor Platinum
Posts: 794
Itinerary: HEL-TXL
Fee: 80€
Ticket type: light
Tier: Plat
Validity: ?
Advance: T-26 hours
Conveyance: pop up on the app
Might have taken a €50 offer, this is too much.
Fee: 80€
Ticket type: light
Tier: Plat
Validity: ?
Advance: T-26 hours
Conveyance: pop up on the app
Might have taken a €50 offer, this is too much.
Apr 18, 2019, 4:38 pm
#1133
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,757
This never came to me as an email / SMS offer, but I noticed in the App that my upcoming HEL-DEL, which has been available for upgrade for months, is now showing a cash alternative at €300. I had decided to sit in Y for this MR flight, but as our friends in Pakistan have decided to lengthen the flying time by two hours, I suddenly regained interest in the upgrade. 50k was a bit steep, but €300 suited me just fine. Painless process via app – it only wanted my CC number, expiry and CVV. After pushing "Purchase", it crashed, but the upgrade was still processed within seconds, including a confirmation email/receipt and a new ticket.
By the way, I now have U outbound and F inbound. Must be a rare combination. ^
By the way, I now have U outbound and F inbound. Must be a rare combination. ^
Apr 19, 2019, 8:44 am
#1134
Moderator, Finnair
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,180
Apr 19, 2019, 12:33 pm
#1135
Join Date: Jan 2011
Programs: oneworld, * Alliance, Marriott Bonvoy, HHonors, WoH
Posts: 2,120
Itinerary: FRA-HEL
Fee: 190€
Ticket type: light
Tier: BA OWS
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 1 week
Conveyance: email
A friend got this offer. Exit row seat has been assigned. The value of intra EU business class meal is much lower than 190€
Fee: 190€
Ticket type: light
Tier: BA OWS
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 1 week
Conveyance: email
A friend got this offer. Exit row seat has been assigned. The value of intra EU business class meal is much lower than 190€
Apr 22, 2019, 3:46 am
#1136
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: AY+ Gold
Posts: 147
Itinerary: TXL-HEL
Fee: 50€
Ticket type: light
Tier: AY Gold
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 2 week
Conveyance: email
Itinerary: HEL-ORD
Fee: 440€
Ticket type: light
Tier: AY Gold
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 2 week
Conveyance: email
TXL-HEL, definitely no
HEL-ORD, tempting but I think I should wait for a better offer ...
Fee: 50€
Ticket type: light
Tier: AY Gold
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 2 week
Conveyance: email
Itinerary: HEL-ORD
Fee: 440€
Ticket type: light
Tier: AY Gold
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 2 week
Conveyance: email
TXL-HEL, definitely no
HEL-ORD, tempting but I think I should wait for a better offer ...
Apr 22, 2019, 5:18 am
#1138
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: C2
Programs: AY ex-Lumo, TK Elite, BT VIP, ITA Executive
Posts: 1,157
Itinerary: LHR-HEL (recliner)
Fee: 190€
Ticket type: Light
Tier: AY Lumo
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 1 week
Conveyance: email
Until it includes J points, I will laugh. After they add J points to this deal, I think I will just smile and still say No thanks.
Fee: 190€
Ticket type: Light
Tier: AY Lumo
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 1 week
Conveyance: email
Until it includes J points, I will laugh. After they add J points to this deal, I think I will just smile and still say No thanks.
Apr 22, 2019, 6:09 am
#1139
Join Date: Oct 2008
Programs: AY Plat Lumo+LTG, FI Gold, DL Silver, BA, SK, AX Plat, Priority Pass, Marriott Ambassador & others
Posts: 634
Off topic: BA offers very often paid upgrades at the gate. When crediting to BA, one gets tier points according to the upgraded class. Does anyone have experience what happens when crediting to AY, and whether there is any difference based on whether the ticket is from AY or BA inventory?
Apr 22, 2019, 6:51 am
#1140
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,757
If we say LHR is 3 hours and DEL is 9 hours, that's €63/hour for LHR, including one-tray meal with two choices of main course, and €33/hour for DEL, including one-tray meal with two choices of appetizer and up to six choices of main course + cake, ice cream and cheese + modest breakfast.