Nov 12, 2017, 2:06 am
Last edit by: ft101
Emirates has unveiled the new first class cabin for their 777s at the Dubai Air Show on November 12th, 2017.
Notably, the new F cabin is fully enclosed from floor to ceiling, has a reduction from 8 seats to 6 total, had virtual windows for the center cabins and features video-based room service ordering.
Business and Economy cabins have also been refreshed, but not completely overhauled.
Dedicated 777 refresh page DEAD LINK
Emirates Press Release (includes PDF downloads of fact sheet with more details) DEAD LINK
Youtube Promo video of new 777F
Here's the replacement for the dead links:
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-unveils-brand-new-cabins-for-its-boeing-777-fleet/
Aircraft with new F (only 77W):
A6-EQH - EQP
Total: 9 aircraft
Current known routes flown with new F:
GVA - EK83 / EK84
BRU - EK181 / EK182
FRA - EK43 / EK44
HND - EK312 / EK313
JFK - EK201 / EK202
STN - EK33 / EK34 EK65 / EK66 (suspended)
VIE - EK125 / EK126
SIN - EK352/353 (unscheduled)
MUC - EK53/54
Update 13th June 2022 from post #1016
Routes operating with the new F as of Aug 1, 2022 include:
EK045 FRA*
EK065 STN
EK077 NCE
EK083 GVA
EK085 ZRH
EK089 GVA
EK181 BRU
EK183 BRU
EK819 RUH
EK318 NRT
*EK45 is also frequently operated by a 2-class 77W, but when flown as a 3-class, it is the new F configuration.
Notably, the new F cabin is fully enclosed from floor to ceiling, has a reduction from 8 seats to 6 total, had virtual windows for the center cabins and features video-based room service ordering.
Business and Economy cabins have also been refreshed, but not completely overhauled.
Dedicated 777 refresh page DEAD LINK
Emirates Press Release (includes PDF downloads of fact sheet with more details) DEAD LINK
Youtube Promo video of new 777F
Here's the replacement for the dead links:
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-unveils-brand-new-cabins-for-its-boeing-777-fleet/
Aircraft with new F (only 77W):
A6-EQH - EQP
Total: 9 aircraft
Current known routes flown with new F:
BRU - EK181 / EK182
FRA - EK43 / EK44
HND - EK312 / EK313
JFK - EK201 / EK202
STN - EK33 / EK34 EK65 / EK66 (suspended)
VIE - EK125 / EK126
SIN - EK352/353 (unscheduled)
MUC - EK53/54
Update 13th June 2022 from post #1016
Routes operating with the new F as of Aug 1, 2022 include:
EK045 FRA*
EK065 STN
EK077 NCE
EK083 GVA
EK085 ZRH
EK089 GVA
EK181 BRU
EK183 BRU
EK819 RUH
EK318 NRT
*EK45 is also frequently operated by a 2-class 77W, but when flown as a 3-class, it is the new F configuration.
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Sep 1, 2018 | 7:31 am
#376
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I would think Geneva is obvious because of all the purchased F tickets from money launderers and bankers constantly coming and going. Brussels because of the EU there you have a ton of government money that will actually purchase F. The other two Im sure have their own reasons too.
Sep 1, 2018 | 1:03 pm
#377
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People have been talking like this new 777 F class is going to be rolled out fleetwide, yet new 777s being delivered dont have it, and EK really isnt giving an estimation on when theyll be releasing it fleetwide, saying sometime in 2020 or something. EK also doesnt really seem to be flaunting it like its going to be fleetwide. Im of the opinion that I dont think theyll be putting the new F on all their 777s.
So it begs the question why, and then further as someone asked above why these routes? First off when you think about it the product its very nice, and cutting edge, and cool, and all that great stuff. But its terrible for people traveling together. Secondly, these routes probably have the highest capacity of paid, single person F fares when you think about the city pairs and all the money floating around on these particular routes. The FRA one is probably to compete directly with LH business travelers too like HONs who pay for F. Stansted I havent found a good answer for, but Im sure theres a reason. In any event, Im pretty certain on the reasoning for the Geneva and Brussels routes. All of this is just a guess, but I have some reasons to my logic.
So it begs the question why, and then further as someone asked above why these routes? First off when you think about it the product its very nice, and cutting edge, and cool, and all that great stuff. But its terrible for people traveling together. Secondly, these routes probably have the highest capacity of paid, single person F fares when you think about the city pairs and all the money floating around on these particular routes. The FRA one is probably to compete directly with LH business travelers too like HONs who pay for F. Stansted I havent found a good answer for, but Im sure theres a reason. In any event, Im pretty certain on the reasoning for the Geneva and Brussels routes. All of this is just a guess, but I have some reasons to my logic.
Sep 1, 2018 | 8:13 pm
#378
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,791
People have been talking like this new 777 F class is going to be rolled out fleetwide, yet new 777s being delivered dont have it, and EK really isnt giving an estimation on when theyll be releasing it fleetwide, saying sometime in 2020 or something. EK also doesnt really seem to be flaunting it like its going to be fleetwide. Im of the opinion that I dont think theyll be putting the new F on all their 777s.
So it begs the question why, and then further as someone asked above why these routes? First off when you think about it the product its very nice, and cutting edge, and cool, and all that great stuff. But its terrible for people traveling together. Secondly, these routes probably have the highest capacity of paid, single person F fares when you think about the city pairs and all the money floating around on these particular routes. The FRA one is probably to compete directly with LH business travelers too like HONs who pay for F. Stansted I havent found a good answer for, but Im sure theres a reason. In any event, Im pretty certain on the reasoning for the Geneva and Brussels routes. All of this is just a guess, but I have some reasons to my logic.
Sep 1, 2018 | 8:33 pm
#380
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,791
Sep 15, 2018 | 10:01 pm
#382
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Sep 15, 2018 | 11:20 pm
#383
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Posts: 4,847
(Or are you referring to ‘space available on board upgrades’ which are only available to silver and higher Skywards members?)
Sep 16, 2018 | 1:39 am
#384
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,791
Surely If Skywards Miles dan be used for upgrades they can be used for awards as well? After all they come from the same fare bucket (Z). If / when they are available is of course entirely another matter.
(Or are you referring to space available on board upgrades which are only available to silver and higher Skywards members?)
Sep 16, 2018 | 11:49 am
#385
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Location: MAN DXB ✈️
Programs: Skywards Gold
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Surely If Skywards Miles dan be used for upgrades they can be used for awards as well? After all they come from the same fare bucket (Z). If / when they are available is of course entirely another matter.
(Or are you referring to space available on board upgrades which are only available to silver and higher Skywards members?)
Sep 16, 2018 | 4:16 pm
#386
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: London
Posts: 858
I have a DXB-LON coming up and must admit that - for once - I am considering sacrificing convenience for the sake of trying out this new product, thus opting for the STN flight. I am a bit deterred by the fact that it adds around 40 minutes to my ride home to central London (and I still very much like the A380). But it does look rather interesting and the "novelty factor" might be intriguing.
Sep 16, 2018 | 4:57 pm
#387
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
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Posts: 7,791
I have a DXB-LON coming up and must admit that - for once - I am considering sacrificing convenience for the sake of trying out this new product, thus opting for the STN flight. I am a bit deterred by the fact that it adds around 40 minutes to my ride home to central London (and I still very much like the A380). But it does look rather interesting and the "novelty factor" might be intriguing.
Sep 16, 2018 | 5:52 pm
#388
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I have a DXB-LON coming up and must admit that - for once - I am considering sacrificing convenience for the sake of trying out this new product, thus opting for the STN flight. I am a bit deterred by the fact that it adds around 40 minutes to my ride home to central London (and I still very much like the A380). But it does look rather interesting and the "novelty factor" might be intriguing.
Alternatively you could fly on it to BRU and then get a short hope from BRU to LCY and it would probably be quicker than getting the CD from STN if you're in central London!
Sep 17, 2018 | 12:06 am
#389
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: CPT SA
Programs: EK Plat
Posts: 196
If you are paying cash for F then it is a real no brainer. As mentioned before, very little award availability either as an award ticket or miles upgrade at the moment. Can't see that changing soon.
Alternatively you could fly on it to BRU and then get a short hope from BRU to LCY and it would probably be quicker than getting the CD from STN if you're in central London!
Alternatively you could fly on it to BRU and then get a short hope from BRU to LCY and it would probably be quicker than getting the CD from STN if you're in central London!
but it looks as though you are only going there as opposed to leaving from there so no issues for you! If you have the opportunity to try the new first, I would definitely go for it.
Sep 26, 2018 | 1:03 am
#390
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Location: AUH
Posts: 8,638
Just FYI, they do open the redemption space (Z) on many of the new F flights a few days before departure. If you set Expertflyer alerts on the flights that interest you, you might be pleasantly surprised. I flew DXB-STN in F last week by doing just that.