777 New First Class
 

I risk being screamed at here but I searched and can't find the thread on the new EK first class on their 777 which is advertised everywhere in the Lounge as starting November.

Anyone know anything about it and which route is it planned to launch on.

Last I heard it was Geneva (changed from Seattle)

My crystal ball tells me that the route is likely to be Geneva, EK89/90, from 5 December 2017.

Will this be an overhaul, or just some minor changes like on A380 ? (stars on carpet, larger screen, etc)

We expect a major overhaul as seen in recent seat map for the new F , the seating layout suggests a overhaul. However I'm not 100% sure what we will see thou. EK better pull something good out the bag , such a shame we still see 2-3-2 on the 777's in J :rolleyes: !

Hoping for something interesting this time as the 777 2-3-2 was a great disappointment. Was shoe horned into one of those seats last night going DXB-COK.

Was in 8E on DXB-HYD two days ago, I've always maintained that it's not a deal breaker for me. Of course direst aisle access is nice, but I actually find for sleeping the center seat (or Windows) on the 777 are the most cocooned, while the aisle seats are a little too exposed. Main issue is elbow room and stepping over neighbours (and getting FA's attention sometimes)

Current F suite lacks sensation of space. It's just a large seat.
Hope that next generation F suite, will really offer space to walk around.

It is just speculation but I agree and imagine that EK will move towards a more spacious design. The EY first apartment is a good place to look, however the actual seat on EY F is not great. limited recline and the leather Van Der Roe style has become tired imo.

I completely agree here - the EY seat is very aesthetically pleasing, but comfort and function wise it is not very good IMHO.

I actually hope they don't go too much towards an EY style design. I've flown EY F and agree with previous posters, I found the seat to be surprisingly uncomfortable for longer durations, and even the "bench"/"bed" not super comfortable either due to the side wall directly adjacent. The drawer for storage is difficult to access from the seat.

I see the point about the current EK F being less "roomy" but still find it to be perfectly spacious, and the seat is super comfortable. So my main concern would be that they manage to retain the comfort of the seat. In a way the EK F suite feels a bit like a pampered cocoon or desk kind of setup, a little more flat surface storage with non-slip surfaces around the side would be nice, as the high gloss finish makes stuff slip around and the mini bar kind of interrupts the flat surface, while the front "desk" section is a little far to reach and putting stuff there might block the TV

I was on SEA-DXB over the weekend and found the new 777 J seats to be far less comfortable than the older ones, especially while trying to sleep. Mainly this is because you have to angle your legs into the conical little section on the side making it quite awkward. I still find the old 777s the most comfortable J seats to sleep in, even though the A380s are much nicer when awake.

Shoe horned !? Time for a diet :p

Shoe horned, well they just don’t feel as spacious as the A380
Diet....Quite right !
It starts today, no airline(lounge) food for me for three weeks will help.

I have always said the use of the space in F is not as good as it should be, the mini bar would be better behind the light in that relatively useless space. Allowing for a slightly wider seat / bed and I would love the Singapore style bed, also the desk I find quite useless and drinks go onto it not ideal when your reclining so another thing I would remove or reduce.

Also better ventilation at the sides on the A380 as when the doors are closed it becomes stuffy and very warm.

However any change should be interesting.