Flight load
 

Thank you Skyhunter for the info, please can you advise on possible upgrades or bump off as im unsure of how to interpratate the given info.

Generally speaking, that load report is showing that eco-class is still being sold (nine is the hightest) so it is probably not full. It also is showing business class seats for sale. Essentially, not likely for op-ups or bump offs.

Happy travels.

Well it is possible that Y is already over by 10 or so (completely arbitrary example), equally Y could be completely empty. Essentially the info is useless.

With a wide-open J cabin, EK often would oversell quite a bit (basically Y + unsold J + forecast margin for no-shows/cancellations), I've seen Y over by 40 before. By that logic at the point it was over by 31 there were still 9 seats for sale.

HOWEVER, the fact that many fare classes in the Y cabin (other than Y class itself - this can be confusing) are still available at 9+ does indeed indicate that it is unlikely (but not impossible) to be oversold, though there aren't specials (X) for sale and I'm not totally up to date on fare classes, I think also no savers (T and V), but flex is wide open and there might be some savers hidden in M or Q, not sure about that - either way this is not indicative of a highly loaded flight.

Given loads I've seen recently on EK I'd expect >80% load at the minimum, with a good chance >90% for BHX, BKK could well be oversold.

Hi guys,

could someone please check EK570 on 17NOV for me? I tried checking it just ends up with server not responding.

Thanks in advance :)

Can't copy on mobile but everything at max availability in all classes except V and X, so doesn't look too full.

Please include origin and destination in future, for others: DXB-CCU

Even in J?

2 days back it was on C7 J7 for Business Class

Will take care of including the sector next time :)

Yes, still the same. 7 is the highest in J, it indicates 7 or more

Very helpful & knowledgeable members on here ;) :cool:

We're business class on all 3 legs outbound, economy class on all 3 legs inbound, EK have quoted just over £5K for 2, upgrading from economy to business class on the return.

Can anyone advise on business class availability on the following?

Feb 02

LGK - KUL: Malaysia 1459
KUL - DXB: Emirates 343
DXB - BHX: Emirates 39

What I meant was was there availability in I O P classes?:confused:

I yes, not for O and P, hadn't seen that

Checking F availability
 

Hi everyone,
First time using FT, but long time reader and lurker. I'm wondering if anyone could help me check loads and availability on EK9 Dxb to LGW on Sunday 26th, please?
I'm flying with my Stepbrother and we booked our tickets separately. I'm Gold and he's on my household account. I'm pretty certain the tickets are the cheapest saver tickets.

A few questions
1. In your experience, what do you think the chances are of an op up on this flight?

2. Is there any way of finding out of there is award availability. MMB says not, but I can keep checking.

3.do you think it's worth upgrading the lounge part (paid) in Dxb for the first class lounge experience if I can't upgrade the ticket?

4. What's the loads looking like on this flight?

Cheers all.

Hi Brink, congratulations on finding your voice in the FT community!

I'm sure that someone will come along who can run a load check request for you, but in future please use this thread to make requests according to the wiki. I'll try help you out with some information.

1. EK changed their policy regarding op-ups last year and priority is now given to those who paid the highest fare for their tickets and platinum members. After that, you might be in with a chance but imo that route is usually heavy with plats. Being on saver fares puts you down at the bottom. I assume you're already travelling in J as you only get to upgrade one cabin class (unless you get an op up and then use miles).

2 and 4: you'll need to find a kind person with an expert flyer subscription to look that up for you.

3: These things are always a value judgment on behalf of the person paying for it. For example: I'm going to pay into the DXB F lounge next week because I really cannot be bothered leaving the airport for my 9h transit despite STPC (I've already done this 6x this year and want a change of scene). For that I get 4h, hoping for longer. I want to sleep on a (flatter than the J lounge) lounger, shower (without the massive queues), eat (from the a la carte menu), smoke cigars and perhaps drink some nice wine (which is really where i'll get my money's worth). For that, I'll happily pay $100. Think what you want out of your lounge experience and then put a price on it.

Safe travels, hopefully someone else can help you out with loads.

No indication of desire to upgrade cabin to F, Only lounge which OP and his brother have due to his Gold status.

I'd not count on an op-up on a LON route, especially on Savers. 26th too far ahead to see anything meaningful in the load.

Here is the load info:

EK 9 DXB
11/26/17 2:35 PMLGW
11/26/17 6:25 PM388
Daily
82% / 12mF4 A3 J7 C7 I0 O0 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L0 T0 V0 X0

FWIW, it is a little far out to glean much info from this. Still selling economy, business and 3 F.

No Z or D award availability on EK9.

Loads:
EK9
DXB 26/11/17 14:35
LGW 26/11/17 18:25 388
Daily
71% / 15m F4 A3 J7 C7 I0 O0 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L0 T0 V0 X0

EF shows no F award availability (Z fare) for any DXB/LGW flight that day.

Note that it is quite early (12 days out) to do a load check that is anywhere near meaningful for an op-up possibility.

(edit: Flaneurs just beat me to it, with the same comment!)

Odd that our reliability numbers are so far off from one another. I pulled mine from ExpertFlyer. You?

Oh, and I said EK was selling 3 F on this flight when actually it is 4 available (at full fare First). My apologies.

Can someone help me out with a load check on the following:

20 Nov 17
EK413
SYD-DXB

Hoping for a J-F op up (Gold on Flex).

Load request:
EK 4130SYD
11/17/17 9:45 PMDXB
11/18/17 5:15 AM388
Daily
94% / 16mF4 A4 J7 C7 I0 O0 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

Manage a Booking will tell you the same as Expert Flyer and both have an alert mechanism. That's only any good to you when check in opens at T -48 hours, as your Saver ticket can't be upgraded until then.

Also from EF. And probably within a few minutes apart from your request :confused:

By the way, what is the easiest way to copy / paste this information? This is the first time I answer a flight load request. I am using Safari in a MacBook and the copy / past was a bit cumbersome....

Thanks for all the helpful feedback. In essence, sounds like getting into First by any means other than paying cash is very slim indeed. So I'll not build up any hopes of that.
I quite like the idea of paying for an upgrade into the First lounge in DXB, but I do like that champagne bar in the business lounge. Having said that, nothing to prevent us doing a bit of lounge hopping on the day. Sometimes three hours just isn't enough time - might have to get there earlier to fully enjoy the offerings lol.

The hint might be in the subject title:
Checking F availability
:)

Indeed :eek: :D whoops

I wonder if EF doesn’t have different versions for different locations. Mine reports times using 12 hour clock and yours did 24 which is more typical for the rest of the world outside the USA. We literally pulled the info almost simulaneously so it truly is funny that the reliability numbers didn’t match. Oh well, one of the great mysteries of the ages, I guess. At least the load info was the same :)

As far as cut and paste for the load request numbers goes, I use an iPad most of the time and it is indeed a little cumbersome also. I have learned exactly where to try to grab the copy in the middle and then spread out to the limits of the end and then the beginning. Once you have the hang of it it isn’t too bad but certainly isn’t fluid either. I have never tried it from a Mac so maybe somebody else has better info on how to do it.

Hello folks,
Just wondering if there has been much change to the loads on a flight to the UK from Dxb at the weekend:
- Date of flight (departure date) 26th Nov 2017
- Flight Number: EK9
- Origin: DXB
- Destination: LGW

Thanks so much for your help. Very much appreciated.

I don’t think it looks a whole bunch different, Brink. Here you go:

EK 90DXB
11/26/17 2:35 PMLGW
11/26/17 6:25 PM388
Daily
77% / 15mF3 A0 J7 C7 I7 O0 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L0 T0 V0 X0

For everbody’s reference, the old load was:
F4 A3 J7 C7 I0 O0 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L0 T0 V0 X0

I believe they sold an F ticket and the are no longing offering discounted F. With I fares opening up to 7, I think that means they are now selling more discounted J fares.

Thanks for the update

EK 28 today (26th Nov)

GLA-DXB

Thank you.

EK 28
GLA11/26/17 13:00 DXB 11/27/17 0:30 77W
Daily
85% / 19m

F4 A3 J4 C0 I0 O0 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T0 V0 X0

If someone could please check the following for me, it would be much appreciated :

EK764 JNB-DXB 28/11/17
EK225 DXB-SFO 29/11/17


Thanks , much appreciated.

EK 7640JNB
11/28/17 6:50 PMDXB
11/29/17 5:05 AM388
Daily
90% / 17mF4 A4 J7 C7 I0 O0 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0


EK 2250DXB
11/29/17 8:45 AMSFO
11/29/17 12:45 PM388
Daily
71% / 19mF4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P1 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9B9 U9 K9 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

Good luck, you might need it! And have a nice time in the Bay Area.

Thanks a ton , will do :D !

Help - Travel with pregnant wife EK216 30.11.
 

Dear experts,

I am an EK Gold and traveling with my pregnant wife on this 16 Hour flight (EK 216 LAX-DXB 30.11).

1.) We were booked with Flexplus ticket in Economy
2.) a few days ago I called EK to upgrade my wife to Business with Skywards miles - they split the reservation and have done so as I dint have enough miles for both of us
3.) Wife is pretty upset as she rather travels with me in Economy than alone is Business

Questions:

I am ready to follow her wish to downgrade her again, if we for example get a complete middle row in Economy so she can lay down during the flight. Or both travel in business in case there is a chance of a Opup for me.

a.) I followed the link and found the following information: F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O0 P7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T0 V0 X0
What do you guys think about the booking situation?

b.) Seatmap shows very less reserved seats. The blocked ones in the front of Y are all preferred seatings (which are lets say 50% occupied when I check on EK under managing booking). The back of the plane (last third) is completely blocked and can not be reserved. Call center doesn't know why too

What would you guys do? Reserve one seat in the middle row? Further back? So the chances are there to get a complete row? Please advise. Thanks so much!!!!

Personally would reserve rear cabin in the same row, then get to the airport early and ask for manual reassignment to wherever was suitable if possible.

Flight looks empty, as mentioned grab opposite ends of middle row in the back, at check-in mention preggo wifey and enquire whether the flight is full and the agent thinks the seats between you will stay open (and whether they are in fact still open. I'd go 4-5 rows from the back to not be too close to whatever is in the back (I'm guessing A380, only part of the plane I haven't been is aft lower deck)
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How about calling EK to find out how much a Y Flex to J upgrade would cost you? More comfortable for both of you - and keeping the peace...

I did. 11,000 AED :eek:

A little much for us... You know how it is... booking Y, hoping to fly F :))))

I did. Thanks for the advise. The interesting thing is that the last third of the seats in the plane are completely blocked (was already at reservation)... and when I checked in, still the case. Call center also doesn't know why...

Ouch! That is a bit much indeed.

Good luck and fingers crossed!

Might be crew rest