Flight Load Check request
 

Hi!

Would someone mind doing a load check for me on EK 192 (LISBON to DXB) on Sat 31 Dec 2016 in Y cabin.

And as a bonus advise which day +/- 1 day around this date has the lightest load.

Thanks!
JRM

Here you go. Looks like Jan 1 is a 2-Class.

EK 192:

30 Dec F2 A0 J0 C0 I0 O0 P0 Y5 E5 R5 W5 M0 B0 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0
31 Dec F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O0 P4 Y4 E4 R4 W4 M0 B0 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0
01 Jan J1 C1 I0 O0 P0 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

Y looks sold out to me on all days.

So this essentially means 4 seats available in Economy Class?

Can you see how many people are on standby?

Basically, I'm hoping to travel standby on this route as an employee of a third party aviation company. I would like to understand my chances of getting on board!

Can you offer any more info?

Thanks,
Jim

Given how booked out the plane seems to be, I'd say unlikely.

Only EK staff can see that within 72 hours of departure. Y4 means 4 seats available for sale, this means they could already be oversold by 15 (i.e. willing to oversell by 19 total). Given the above I'd say your chances as a 3rd party staff standby would be slightly below zero, unfortunately.

Between you, me and FT, OP - there is a chance, but a slim one for the 31st and less of a chance on 30th/1st.

If the plans are critical, I would recommend a revenue ticket.

Perhaps the 1st is the best chance given the possibility of no-shows due to hangover. 2.30pm departure means a handful of people could conceivably oversleep

Eeesh. Thanks

Haha at the hangover no-show comment. I did think the same. But at the same time, I think it's even more sold.

I think you'll have a vanishingly small chance of getting on the flight on the 1st, unfortunately - even on a revenue ticket.

Any chance you can take a look again tomorrow and give me an update on my chances of standby for EK192 on 31 Jan? I'm currently booked it and it's a :| face.

Thanks!

Hello! Would you mind giving me an update on the situation regarding EK 192 on 31 December?

Many thanks!

It's oversold in Y, F is empty and J only half full. You might be able to get on as they will likely op-up.

Thanks - oversold by how many seats in Y?

class capacity booked
Y 310 334
J 42 20
F 8 0

5 staff listed in Y

Ow. Ow. Ow.

Assuming I'm the absolute last on the standby list, everyone turns up, and they Op-up everyone to fill the aircraft and maximise revenue, I will get the last seat.

But I'm not sure they do this.

Assuming 2-4 people will no show, my chances increase slightly. On the assumption EY Op-ups everyone.

Anyone want to place a bet?

? We're talking about EK.

5 staff listed, not 5 staff on standby. I think that's confirmed staff travel. There aren't any staff on standby at the moment. However IME EK does op-up to the last seat to accommodate revenue pax. I don't know if they would op-up an extra J-F and Y-J to accommodate a non-rev standby.

Been a while since I worked for the GHA in MEL, but back then we would not upgrade rev pax Y-J just to onload subload non-rev pax. QR does this (from experience), but that was policy at EK ca. 2011 - things could have changed though!

Given current load if there are no no-shows there would be some J-F op-ups as well to accommodate just the revenue pax in Y, so they'd need to double-op-up (Y-J and separately J-F) to accommodate a non-rev, which seems unlikely to me.

Hi Folks

Grateful if someone could help out. Departing PEK a bit earlier than originally planned. Tickets changed from Y Saver to Y Flex and have managed to bag an upgrade PEK-DXB. No availability at present for the DXB-GLA flight. Seatmap on Expertflyer (I know, I know) shows quite a few unassigned seats.

Grateful if someone could check loads for EK027 DXB-GLA 04/01/17.

On a side note. Miles upgrade PEK-GLA from Y Flex - 68,250 miles. PEK-DXB - 50,700. DXB-GLA - 39,000. Obviously will be checking very regularly to see if the upgrade becomes available and can then get the whole journey for the lower mileage.

Safe & Happy Travels

S

Loads only available <72hrs prior to departure. I'd help out but I get my loads from a relative and try not to bother too often :rolleyes:

No worries skywardhunter. Signed up for sms alert. Again, Expertflyer also shows a (so far) empty F cabin. Fingers crossed.

S

While Y seat maps are pretty inaccurate I find J and F seat maps to be at least somewhat helpful in guessing loads. If there are several open J seats for example (e.g. >5) but J0 and Y0 to me this usually indicates oversell in Y, but of course it's more of an educated guess as there could be lots of stuff happening in the background that you can't see

I counted 22 unassigned seats including blocked/bassinet seats and zero seats unassigned in F.

Fingers crossed and strangely enough, when I done a dummy booking on Thursday night, said Y was sold out for those flights so I don't know if the Gold guaranteed seat was used by my company. I would like to spend the miles so that I can get baggage confirmed & CD for my arrival but I wouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth if I got a beep at boarding :D

S

gold guarantee would be Flex Plus (full fare Y class), basically you could book J on most routes for the same price

Well it wasn't that then :D. So how come on a dummy booking done less than 24 hours previously for the same flights showed as all sold out? I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway :cool:

S

A lot can happen in 24 hours. Also if you changed it via phone perhaps they could force it through.

So do you think there could be the slightest chance of an upgrade one way or the other? Can't see a GLA flight being full of Y Flex Plus pax :o

S

Upgrade pre-check-in is impossible to tell, even if J is open. At check-in on space-available basis always an option

It is unlikely they will op-up just to put non-revs on, but it has sometimes happened (only with direct ASO+ approval though).

However, EK also sometimes offload non-revs even with available seats in order to accept other payload so even if there are seats there may not be space, unfortunately.

I do not think they do this that often as they'd rather bump Y pax than j and get as many paid j fares as possible.

Actually they do, I've seen it with actual loads. Especially ex EU cost of IDB is higher than the margin on an extra J fare.

Hi! I'm heading to LIS in a couple hours. Any chance you could do a last minute check for me?

If it doesn't work out, I'll go via London on TAP.

Hey, sorry I don't have direct access myself and just sat down in cinema to watch Assassin's Creed, good luck! Let us know how it turns out

How was your experience? The movie I mean, not the flight :)

Meh. It's not amazing but it's entertaining. Bit of a rushed and anticlimactic ending.

Like this thread.

Wait for it...

Oh yes, because if OP goes via London he might have a really hard time because of the fog :cool:

To OP: why go via London when you can go via Madrid, Brussels or Paris?

Correct!