Consolidated "Michelin Restaurants" thread
#257
I will be in Hong Kong and would like to try a 3 star Michelin. Initially, I thought about Chinese cuisine since how often do you come across a 3 star one, but going through the photos and the reviews has left my unsure if it's worth it. Has anyone have any experience with Bo Innovation, Lung King Heen, or Tang Court?
I've had 1 and 2 star Michelin European cuisine before so note sure if 8½ Otto e Mezzo BOMBANA and L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon would be so different.
I've had 1 and 2 star Michelin European cuisine before so note sure if 8½ Otto e Mezzo BOMBANA and L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon would be so different.
#258
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Was at "L'eau vive" (2 stars) in Belgium between Namur and Dinant.
http://www.eau-vive.be/en/a-la-carte...discovery-menu
Had the discovery menu for 110 Euro. In addition to the listed menu there were 4 amuse-bouche and a first dessert (violet sorbet). Did not take any cheese.
Absolutely wonderful menu.
Did sleep at the "Espace Medissey" which is 2 miles away from the restaurant. Nice location.
http://www.eau-vive.be/en/a-la-carte...discovery-menu
Had the discovery menu for 110 Euro. In addition to the listed menu there were 4 amuse-bouche and a first dessert (violet sorbet). Did not take any cheese.
Absolutely wonderful menu.
Did sleep at the "Espace Medissey" which is 2 miles away from the restaurant. Nice location.
#259
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I will be in Hong Kong and would like to try a 3 star Michelin. Initially, I thought about Chinese cuisine since how often do you come across a 3 star one, but going through the photos and the reviews has left my unsure if it's worth it. Has anyone have any experience with Bo Innovation, Lung King Heen, or Tang Court?
I've had 1 and 2 star Michelin European cuisine before so note sure if 8½ Otto e Mezzo BOMBANA and L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon would be so different.
I've had 1 and 2 star Michelin European cuisine before so note sure if 8½ Otto e Mezzo BOMBANA and L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon would be so different.
I have always been a huge fan of L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon in HK, especially for their lunch menu which is probably one of the best value 3-star restaurants in the world.
I think Mizutani has a very good grasp on nigiri - I prefer his more subtly flavoured rice and the texture/temperature/consistency is absolutely spot on. The standard cuts were done extremely well, in particular the kohada, ika, o-toro, mirugai, tairagai were all exceptional.
The issue I took with Mizutani on this visit was that the kurumaebi and anago were all prepared beforehand - which strikes me as really odd for a sushi restaurant of this calibre. Many other places in this tier prepare both just before it is served - and I felt the quality of both just wasn't up to standard because of the pre-preparation, though they were acceptable.
Finally, I also felt that the extra 10,000 JPY for the tsumami course was a bit ridiculous. There were only three servings - hirame, bonito and awabi. Again, the bonito was prepared beforehand, and there wasn't much to elevate the fish from a typical sashimi cut. The awabi was good, but Yoshitake takes it to another level (the liver sauce accompanying the awabi is out of this world good, but Mizutani simply just served it up by itself and it was dry.)
At 30,000 JPY out the door, I was a bit disappointed in the overall experience. It wasn't that Mizutani wasn't good, but at that price point I expect absolute perfection and a few things just seemed "off" in a sushi-ya of that tier. I think back to my experience at Yoshitake about a year ago - much friendlier service, more tsumami courses with immaculate presentation and flavours, and nigiri that was nearly as good, at 23,000 JPY.
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#260
Join Date: Aug 2005
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I guess I have had four Michelin-starred meals in the last month, all tasting menus:
London: Alyn Williams at the Westbury (*): Average tasting menu but the best petit fours I've ever had in my life. They make those excellent chocolates in house.
Rome: Il Pagliaccio (**): Ridiculously pretentious, gimmicky experience. One of the worst Michelin dining experiences I've had.
Barcelona: Cinc Sentits (*): Amazing, one of my best experiences
Barcelona: ABaC (**): Very good, but just a little bit too experimental for me. When they start bringing out the liquid nitrogen, I start to worry. I suspect that ABaC will be three star at some point in the future.
Of the four, Cinc Sentits was my favourite. I highly recommend it to anyone going to Barcelona. Was never able to get a table at Lasarte, El Cellar, Tickets, L'Angle, Dos Palillos, or Caelis, and cancelled my reservation at Moments due to indifferent feedback. Just as well - the two meals in Barcelona filled me for days.
London: Alyn Williams at the Westbury (*): Average tasting menu but the best petit fours I've ever had in my life. They make those excellent chocolates in house.
Rome: Il Pagliaccio (**): Ridiculously pretentious, gimmicky experience. One of the worst Michelin dining experiences I've had.
Barcelona: Cinc Sentits (*): Amazing, one of my best experiences
Barcelona: ABaC (**): Very good, but just a little bit too experimental for me. When they start bringing out the liquid nitrogen, I start to worry. I suspect that ABaC will be three star at some point in the future.
Of the four, Cinc Sentits was my favourite. I highly recommend it to anyone going to Barcelona. Was never able to get a table at Lasarte, El Cellar, Tickets, L'Angle, Dos Palillos, or Caelis, and cancelled my reservation at Moments due to indifferent feedback. Just as well - the two meals in Barcelona filled me for days.
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#261
Was on Mallorca and tried 3 restaurants with each 1 star:
Simply Fosh: My favourite, worth a second star in my eyes
Es Raco d’es Teix: Perfect prepared Food without chi-chi
Es Fum: Solid restaurant
Simply Fosh: My favourite, worth a second star in my eyes
Es Raco d’es Teix: Perfect prepared Food without chi-chi
Es Fum: Solid restaurant
#262
I was not terribly impressed with Lung King Heen or Bo Innovation. The former was overpriced for it was (not very inventive and you can get dishes of similar quality for a lot less), and Bo Innovation's flavours just didn't do it for me - the molecular gastronomy aspect for Chinese dishes didn't produce the "wow" flavours I was expecting.
I have always been a huge fan of L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon in HK, especially for their lunch menu which is probably one of the best value 3-star restaurants in the world.
I have always been a huge fan of L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon in HK, especially for their lunch menu which is probably one of the best value 3-star restaurants in the world.
I think I will do either 8½ Otto e Mezzo BOMBANA or Sushi Shikon for dinner.
#263
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I'm here to eat, guys, not watch Bill Nye prove that rubber bands can be brittle.
#264
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And the thing is, the restaurant is obviously capable of plating excellent food without it because the rest of the meal was tremendous. It's an unnecessary gimmick
#265
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I will be in Hong Kong and would like to try a 3 star Michelin. Initially, I thought about Chinese cuisine since how often do you come across a 3 star one, but going through the photos and the reviews has left my unsure if it's worth it. Has anyone have any experience with Bo Innovation, Lung King Heen, or Tang Court?
I've had 1 and 2 star Michelin European cuisine before so note sure if 8½ Otto e Mezzo BOMBANA and L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon would be so different.
I've had 1 and 2 star Michelin European cuisine before so note sure if 8½ Otto e Mezzo BOMBANA and L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon would be so different.
#266
Join Date: Mar 2010
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I will be in Hong Kong and would like to try a 3 star Michelin. Initially, I thought about Chinese cuisine since how often do you come across a 3 star one, but going through the photos and the reviews has left my unsure if it's worth it. Has anyone have any experience with Bo Innovation, Lung King Heen, or Tang Court?
I've had 1 and 2 star Michelin European cuisine before so note sure if 8½ Otto e Mezzo BOMBANA and L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon would be so different.
I've had 1 and 2 star Michelin European cuisine before so note sure if 8½ Otto e Mezzo BOMBANA and L'Atelier de Joël Robuchon would be so different.
Bo Innovation deserves zero star. I was surprised when they had 2 stars
Lung King Heen, OK, good probably one star
Sushi sikon : overpriced, good food but can't justify the price
The Chinese restaurant at the IC is my favorite Chinese restaurant (the Japanese one is meeuh)
Otto e Mezzo BOMBANA , I love it, the food is very tasty. Not extremely upscale. Make me thing of the Mandarin Grill at the MO which also very good (especially at dinner). Did go back to both restaurants
Robuchon : one single table, so you most probably seat at the counter. The bread basket was very good. The food was good but not as good as Paris. Won't go back (I didn't find any Robuchon better than Paris, Monaco is a close call)
Amber has only 2 stars but is in IMHO better than all above
Keeping the best for the end : Pierre Gagnaire (the actual chef is supposed to leave soon if not already gone)
Speaking about Michelin star, there are sub levels inside each category
So you can be 1 star : weak, average or strong. Unfortunately these info are not public.
Was on Mallorca and tried 3 restaurants with each 1 star:
Simply Fosh: My favourite, worth a second star in my eyes
Es Raco d’es Teix: Perfect prepared Food without chi-chi
Es Fum: Solid restaurant
Simply Fosh: My favourite, worth a second star in my eyes
Es Raco d’es Teix: Perfect prepared Food without chi-chi
Es Fum: Solid restaurant
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#270
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That is surprising - I ate there in early spring 2013 (in March), and I thought Tru blew away the other dinner we had in town (which was the vaunted Alinea - overrated IMO). Presentation was gorgeous, every course was so good, and it has one of my all-time dishes - black-truffle infused foie gras flan. I haven't been back to Chitown since, but this is one of the rare places where I would probably go back to somewhere I've eaten before, just because it was so good.